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What does diabetes mean to you? A philosophical point of view.

tim2000s

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***Warning, this topic might appear a little morbid to some, but if you follow it through, it shouldn't be***

Having spent a long time in discussion with a buddhist friend, I realised that I have a very philosophical point of view in relation to Diabetes and me. We were discussing, as you do over a beer, life the universe and everything and he asked me this question (all be it in a slightly different way). My answer, in a more rambling fashion was, simply,

"I have learned that I am mortal and I am aware that I will die. I have significantly more power over how and when that happens than many people realise".

Now this might seem a very depressing, morbid thought, but it shouldn't be taken that way. For me, becoming diabetic showed me that my life would have an end, and made it very clear that I was now in control of that life.

The average human condition is one of never, truly believing that you are mortal, and often learning the hard way that you are. Instead, I have a daily reminder that I am, and daily opportunities to make the most of it. Whilst Diabetes isn't curable and is maintainable, having this knowledge is an incredible strength. It allows you to make decisions that enable you to take on what life throws at you and make the most of the opportunities presented to you.

What this realisation also gave to me is the understanding that while, yes, sometimes it may be a struggle to keep your blood sugars exactly where they are supposed to be and make sure you have a good Hba1c, there is far more in life than just these things, and while they need to be looked after and controlled, life is there to be lived. Maintenance of yourself is simply another risk factor to be added in to the mix and be aware of, and it shouldn't be the key thing that drives your behaviour. I have given myself boundaries in which I should operate, but I'm not going to spend my entire life worrying down to the minutiae of it, as complications will happen and I will pass of this mortal coil. Keeping them to a minimum is important, but having a life is more important, so balance is key.

Finally, I think that it has given me a framework within which I can make much more effective risk assessments. As I know what the worst case is for me from here, how do other things affect that, how should I approach risky things and what should I do to mitigate risks? Are risks really as bad as people think... And the answer to this is invariably, probably not (now I'm not talking about going on holiday to Syria here).

So, while it seems like an pessimistic realisation, I think it has opened up my mind to a much more philosophical point of view and has been a much greater enabler to my life. I am limited only be what I choose to be limited by and not by how others choose to limit me.

How do you see it?
 
Diabetes is a pain in the bollox. I cant see or make any philosophical connection to it at all. Its a disease and left un-managed will kill you. That said, Having this poxy curse of a condition! has made me change my ways for the better. I have better self control, learned to take responsibaltly and set boundaries for my self. But I still fecking HATE IT!
 
I find the more diabetes, its complications and other auto immune conditions that affect me, it makes me want to fight it to the hilt, even more. I wont let it dominate my life, my well being or my sanity.
It's needs a swift kick up the backside from time to time, just to show who's boss :arghh: :mad: :cool: ahhhh........... that feels better :)

Best wishes
 
Unfortunately I get visited by the Black Dog from time to time and it does make looking on the bright side or being philosophical about life difficult sometimes.
I would do anything to be rid of my T1 as it is becoming more difficult to manage both physically and mentally the older I get. However I don't think that it has a huge effect on my sense of well being, I would probably still be a miserable sod without it :)
 
Unfortunately I get visited by the Black Dog from time to time and it does make looking on the bright side or being philosophical about life difficult sometimes.
I would do anything to be rid of my T1 as it is becoming more difficult to manage both physically and mentally the older I get. However I don't think that it has a huge effect on my sense of well being, I would probably still be a miserable sod without it :)

I have a Type 2 friend who also gets visited by the black dog :( such a lot.

RRB
 
I read a lot of Buddhist philosophies, I wouldn't say I'm Buddhist though as I lack the self control. The positivity and changing the way you think really helps me through hard times. The good thing about Buddhism is the focus on looking after ur mind and body, so it ties in well with diabetes.

There are loads of quotes u can apply. This is my fave my the Dalai Lama:
"Sometimes not getting what you want is a wonderful stroke of luck".
To me this is about the fact that now I have diabetes I am living a much healthier life, quit smoking, quit fatty unhealthy food, started exercising again. I'll probably be much healthier in the long run now than if I'd have carried on the way I was.

I've thought the same as you as well. Good post :)
 
I'm type 2, but have the same view as Emmotha.


I read the 'The Art of War' by Sun Tzu.
There are many quotes, but

“You have to believe in yourself. ”

and

“If the mind is willing, the flesh could go on and on without many things.”

seem to apply for my day to day life, and I'm letting my mind rule my body, doing what I want to, not what I believe my bodies limits should be.

With regard to my type 2 though

“Therefore, just as water retains no constant shape, so in warfare there are no constant conditions.”

And indeed, we are seem to have different variants of diabetes, different symptoms, different solutions, and different reactions to those solutions.
I even vary day to day both in my routine, and my own responses, so my 'warfare' against diabetes adapts as it needs to.
As to diabetes, I'm doing things I wouldn't have done it I hadn't been diagnosed, taken the challenge, which leaves me with another quote.

“If, on the other hand, in the midst of difficulties we are always ready to seize an advantage, we may extricate ourselves from misfortune.”

A very intelligent general, and philosopher, from a great period in Chinese history.
 
Diabetes just means for my - my death. that's all that it is. there's nothing good about it. and my life would be much better with out.
I gained nothing - and I mean ****, NOTHING! out of the trouble.
 
Diabetes....erm I too don't think there is anything positive to be made out of it! Yes, life would be better without diabetes...but it wouldn't be great as I have a billion and one other problems...diabetes just tops them all! It just proves how god **** unlucky I am!!


The only good thing to come out from being diabetic is the friends I have made! And nothing else!!!
 
I have been diabetic for over 50 years and I am not going to let diabetes get me,I have fought it for so long,quite successfully,the one sure thing I will die,but not from diabetes.Providing you treat it with respect,you can live a near normal life.
 
Diabetes to me.. A minor inconvenience. I control it, it doesn't control me. Before my diagnosis two years ago, I was an avid and competing body builder. The day I was diagnosed was the day I stopped. Two years later... T1 can do one :D As long as I maintain my sugars at a healthy level, it has very little effect on my life. I'm preparing to compete again, whilst also training for more endurance sports.

I test, inject, eat... test, inject, eat..

The testing is a pain but there are much worse situations I could be stricken with. The injecting.. no longer a pain and it's just a few seconds lost each day.

Diabetes won't kill me and I've never even thought of it as something that could. I see it as my physical body losing the ability to control an aspect of my human biology... An aspect that I'm more than capable of controlling myself.

I can't exactly offer the mindset of someone that's had the condition for the majority of their life but in the two years I've had it.. I'm really not bothered.

What I've gained from it? I was petrified of needles.. To the point I wouldn't go on holiday due to the inability to keep on top of my jabs. Thousands of injections later, meh!

T1 has taken very Little from my life and I don't intend to let it take any more.

Sam.
 
If we keep looking we may find hope ....I hope a cure for all can soon be found ....
I to love buddest quotes ...and the good days are so much better than the bad days ...

It has increased my awareness for things ...so have other illnesses ...so it sort of balances out ..
Sometimes we get many health knock backs one after the other ...makes us stronger I always think ..makes me stronger ...

Type 2 reply ...but I saw it as a question for all ....
 
I am type 2, (I was not aware of this, it was found during a blood test )
Doctor said you pancreas is not working as it should be.
I did not connect my habits were related to diabetes at that time.
Now I feel I am one of the lucky ones with good control.
 
If we keep looking we may find hope ....I hope a cure for all can soon be found ....
I to love buddest quotes ...and the good days are so much better than the bad days ...

It has increased my awareness for things ...so have other illnesses ...so it sort of balances out ..
Sometimes we get many health knock backs one after the other ...makes us stronger I always think ..makes me stronger ...

Type 2 reply ...but I saw it as a question for all ....
@Kat100 Just got to mention ,got back home late last night after taking my daughter to a venue. Got in to bed,my wife let Izzi (the cat) in the room. the cat decided to sleep practically on my face. I then remembered your comment.
There is no greater gift than the love of a cat
 
@Kat100 Just got to mention ,got back home late last night after taking my daughter to a venue. Got in to bed,my wife let Izzi (the cat) in the room. the cat decided to sleep practically on my face. I then remembered your comment.
Lol :cat::cat::cat: there is no greater gift ...hope your dear cat slept well ;)
 
Type 2 for me is a minor inconvenience.. It brought me to my senses, forced me to lose a lot of weight and now I am enjoying my new figure, my new clothes, my new way of eating. Life is good. I am in control, my BS are well controlled without any meds to worry about. It is not the be all and end all for me, in fact I could say my diagnosis was the beginning of a new life. When I had cancer, that was very different, and after that my diabetes pails into insignificance.
 
What about this guy? Charlie Kimball. He's an American race car driver diagnosed T1 at the age of 22. Thought he'd have to give up, but made adjustments to his car. Pretty inspirational:
"The typical response from people when I tell them I'm diabetic is, 'Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.' You know, I'm not. I'm a better athlete because of diabetes rather than despite it. I'm more aware of my training, my fitness and more aware of nutrition. I'm more proactive about my health."
 
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