"What have you eaten" Parallel Chat

[Antje77]

In other news lunch was a bit late - 13:15 instead of 13:00, as we hung around at church rather longer than necessary, getting to know our new minister (who seems like good people!) and her family, and various other things. I normally walk home from church, but for once my husband was ready to leave when I was, so we came home in the car. Anyway, we were both seriously hungry and so lunch ended up being the sauce from Friday night's lasagne, served cold

Your story about being seriously hungry because you ate 15 minutes later than usual triggered a very fond memory of a story my late parents told me about my grandparents.
Grandparents didn't play with eating times, at noon the meal had to be on the table (meat, two veggies, potatoes, apple sauce and dessert).
Very early in their relationship my future parents (16 and 21 at the time) offered to cook.
Predictably, their timing was off, and the green beans from the freezer were nowhere near cooked at noon. They decided that a late meal was probably worse than plating half frozen beans so everything was put on the table.

My grandfather, a farmer, ate a hearty portion and only afterwards commented that the frost must have hit hard on the beans for the time of year.

I'm completely different when it comes to eating times myself. Evening (main) meal can be at any time between 5:30 and 11 pm, and the same goes for other meals.

Today I had a wonderful onion soup with lots of grated cheese for my evening meal at work on the bridge at around 6. I wanted to have some nuts for a late snack just now, but either I ate them or my tenant did. So I made some cheese crisps in the microwave instead.

 

[Mrs Redboots]

Ended up serving the sea bass with a roasted vegetable traybake - baby potatoes, red onion, red pepper, tomatoes (the last of the ones I brought back from Sussex, alas), mushrooms, butternut squash and cauliflower (why don't I ever remember in time that I don't actually like roast cauliflower?) with a marinade of garlic, pimento paste, lemon juice and pomegranate molasses. Then I decided we would finish the yoghurt after all, so put some on to cook for this morning, and we had the end of the old lot with raspberries and a nectarine.

Alas, later in the evening I felt peckish (unusual for me) and succumbed to the lure of a bit of dark chocolate and a buttered hot cross bun! Still, blood glucose fine this morning (5.4), so not done me any harm!

 

[jpscloud]

Porridge for breakfast, bacon and halloumi, fried courgette, salad for lunch and chicken with garden vegetebles for tea.

A bit of tidying in the garden today I think.

 

[Annb]

Another cheese sandwich for breakfast. It was there and easy to make.

Hypo followed and 2 biscuits and a cup of tea to stop the drop. It stopped it but BG wasn't showing signs of rising far, so just had another 2 biscuits. Hoping to get into the 5's with that, but we'll see.

The last of the mushroom bake with a couple of sausages for 2nd meal today.

I'll have to rethink my timing for taking this pill. I'm actually eating more, and more of it is carbs, in order to stave off a hypo during the night. That can't be right.

 

[Antje77]

Another cheese sandwich for breakfast. It was there and easy to make.

Hypo followed and 2 biscuits and a cup of tea to stop the drop. It stopped it but BG wasn't showing signs of rising far, so just had another 2 biscuits. Hoping to get into the 5's with that, but we'll see.

The last of the mushroom bake with a couple of sausages for 2nd meal today.

I'll have to rethink my timing for taking this pill. I'm actually eating more, and more of it is carbs, in order to stave off a hypo during the night. That can't be right.

Have you lowered your basal as well as your mealtime insulin?

 

[Annb]

Have you lowered your basal as well as your mealtime insulin?

Not yet. I thought I'd try to get the bolus right first, but I may change tactics and reduce the basal. It's just a case of trial and error.

 

[Mrs Redboots]

Not yet. I thought I'd try to get the bolus right first, but I may change tactics and reduce the basal. It's just a case of trial and error.

I hope you are able to get your blood glucose settled soon. It sounds as though it's not easy, but I imagine your healthcare people are just a phonecall away?

As for me, breakfast was overnight oats with various additions, plus orange juice and coffee. I'd quite forgotten I'd half-arranged to take my daughter out to lunch to celebrate her birthday. Rather belatedly, but she was on holiday when it happened, and last week was busy getting her children - sorry pardon, her teenagers - ready for school and Sixth Form College, plus catching up at work. So mid-morning she texted me to ask if lunch was on, so of course I said it was! We went to a Vietnamese restaurant we've been to before and both like, I had pho with a beef combo, washed down with coconut water mixed with fresh pineapple juice, which I love. I was annoyed, though, as I ate all the beef, broth and vegetables, and some of the noodles, but not many, So the waiter comes up and offers me a doggy-bad - if I'd know that was going to happen, I'd have eaten more of the noodles and less of the other stuff, and taken it home to live to fight another day! Stilll, it was delicious.

Then, naturally, I didn't really want much supper, so gave myself 1/3 and the husband 2/3 of the leftover roasted vegetables, and we both had a poached egg and grated goat's cheese on top. Followed by a fruit yoghurt. Oh, and he had a glass of wine and I had a Virgin Mary. And very good it wa, too!

 

[Annb]

I hope you are able to get your blood glucose settled soon. It sounds as though it's not easy, but I imagine your healthcare people are just a phonecall away?

As for me, breakfast was overnight oats with various additions, plus orange juice and coffee. I'd quite forgotten I'd half-arranged to take my daughter out to lunch to celebrate her birthday. Rather belatedly, but she was on holiday when it happened, and last week was busy getting her children - sorry pardon, her teenagers - ready for school and Sixth Form College, plus catching up at work. So mid-morning she texted me to ask if lunch was on, so of course I said it was! We went to a Vietnamese restaurant we've been to before and both like, I had pho with a beef combo, washed down with coconut water mixed with fresh pineapple juice, which I love. I was annoyed, though, as I ate all the beef, broth and vegetables, and some of the noodles, but not many, So the waiter comes up and offers me a doggy-bad - if I'd know that was going to happen, I'd have eaten more of the noodles and less of the other stuff, and taken it home to live to fight another day! Stilll, it was delicious.

Then, naturally, I didn't really want much supper, so gave myself 1/3 and the husband 2/3 of the leftover roasted vegetables, and we both had a poached egg and grated goat's cheese on top. Followed by a fruit yoghurt. Oh, and he had a glass of wine and I had a Virgin Mary. And very good it wa, too!

Sounds like a fantastic meal.

The problem that our medical folk had in letting me have the weight loss pill or injection was that they cannot offer support, and they think they should. So, I'm pretty much on my own and having to work it out for myself. 'Twas ever thus! The team at our GP surgery reckon my case is too complicated for them to deal with so they've referred me to the hospital and the waiting list to get them to see me is too long. However, the diabetes nurse at our practice went ahead anyway and prescribed Semaglutimide and then told the hospital that she has done so. Result - I got an appointment to see the dietician at the hospital tomorrow. That'll speed the process up a bit. Not that the dietician has much of an idea about diabetes - she admitted that much to me last time I saw her a couple of years ago when the hospital passed me to the practice for my care.

 

[jpscloud]

Gosh I didn't realise how complicated all this is for you @Annb - I do hope the hospital can get effective support in place for you quickly now.

Porridge for breakfast, something with salad for lunch and freezer surprise with garden vegetables for tea - I'm not very inspired today!

My remaining cauliflowers are getting bigger now, I might have to try freezing some florets if they all reach maturity at the same time!

 

[shelley262]

@Annb pleased that you'll be able to discuss your diet with a dietician lets hope they are knowledgeable and supportive.
We are currently having our decking ripped out - must admit to a few nightmares about what may be nesting under there - so will be good to see it gone!
Planning on cheeseburger for dinner later with salad. Had quick low carb granola earlier for breakfast and took some smoked trout out of the freezer for my lunch.

 

[Mrs Redboots]

@Annb, this is a great result and I hope the dietician at the hospital will have some answers. Semaglutide has been so great for me - and I didn't have to beg to go on it; I was asked to go on the trial! Of course, I might have been on the placebo, but as I'm not, it's been wonderful. I didn't qualify for Mounjaro as my BMI was too low and I didn't have any other co-morbidities. And if I lose another kg, my BMI will be in the healthy range!

@shelley262, I hope your decking rip-out goes well. It's very wet here today, so I think I'll autumn-clean the kitchen. I've already done one cupboard this morning, as the end strip of one of the shelves was coming adrift, and I wanted my husband to glue it back on, so decided to clean the cupboard while I was at it.

Breakfast was a bit of a disaster. I wanted to have a "best of both worlds" breakfast by making an oatmeal/chia seed pancake to have with a fried egg. Alas, I've only made these pancakes once before and am still experimenting with them, and managed to add far too much water, so it simply wouldn't fry, and had to be thrown away. So I had my fried egg on a slice of wholemeal seeded bread with black pepper Boursin. Might try again at lunchtime! Supper will, I think, be cauliflower cheese bake, which I probably ought to make before starting to clean the kitchen! If I don't, then we might have a take-away, for once! If it stops raining I'll go out to Lidl - actually, I'll probably go even if it doesn't. Need peppers and tomatoes, plus maincrop potatoes. And maybe a tin of cannellini beans - you can lower the GI of mashed potatoes by mixing them half and half with cannellini beans!

 

[Mrs Redboots]

So, to update. I did try again at lunch, with slightly more success. Not entirely sure the result is worth the faff, but, as my husband said "If it's oatmeal, it's very good for us!" One recipe has you blitz the oats into flour before adding the chia seeds and water - I think I'll try that next time. Had that with a (bought cooked) chicken breast slice, some cottage cheese and half a tomato (oh, and an olive); now enjoying a pistachio ice cream cup from Lidl. Have changed my mind about supper - realised I have some mozzarella pearls that want eating, plus that half-bag of fresh pasta ditto. So will be those, with cooked shallots and cherry tomatoes and maybe some broad beans? And the cauliflower cheese bake can be had tomorrow.

 

[Annb]

The dietician was a bit of a waste of time and effort that I couldn't afford!.

Today, I just couldn't walk. I tried but it just wasn't happening. So Neil brought the wheelchair in from the car for me and had to push me down the ramp (not difficult apart from all the plant pots in the way) and back up again (much harder, although this time the plant pots were removed first).

This was after a really bad night. BG behaved perfectly but for some reason I couldn't stop shaking. Eventually, I gave up, got up and took some painkillers - by this time my hip had started on another flare up adventure. That seemed to have dealt with the shaking as well so I assume it had something to do with dehydration, even though I had had a full 2 litres of fluid during the day. As I have today, but the shaking started up again half an hour ago. I took some more painkillers (hip is very demanding) and another glass of water, and it seems to have settled down again - the shaking not the hip.

The dietician didn't know about the fasting before and after taking the Semaglutimide. She could only suggest having skimmed milk instead of f/f and stopping the butter and cream. Also stop eating sausages - even though they are nowadays a one week in five treat. Eat fish, but not too often, eat only chicken rather than other meats. That is reduce the calories and fats as far as humanly possible since I don't do any exercise to use up some !!surplus!! energy. What she did say, though, is that I must take sufficient insulin with carbs (starchy ones, I think she means) but no insulin at all without starchy carbs. So fruit is fine as long as I don't take insulin with it. She still hasn't investigated the lchf diet, and knows nothing about it.

She didn't approve of today's breakfast which was baked cream with raspberries. That was about 150 ml of double cream and about 10 small raspberries. No insulin and BG remained in the 5's.

The other thing she told me was that my care is the responsibility of the GP. The hospital doesn't deal with T2s any more. The consultant who comes from the mainland once in a while, also only deals with T1s She didn't seem to know about T3 etc. However, just last week the diabetes nurse at our Health Centre told me that I had been referred back to the hospital because the Practice don't have the resources to support all my extra bits and pieces of problems. So I don't know where I am on that. Must talk to that nurse again.

So - nothing gained except a whole lot of pain and I got wet!

2nd meal today was cottage cheese with some slices of tomato and of cucumber. I did manage to stand for a few minutes to chop those. I explained to the dietician that I always use a small plate (teaplate) so that I can't put too much on it but I must admit, it was rather piled up with one large tomato, about 3 inches of cucumber and a couple of tablespoons of cottage cheese.

It's 11.34 so I am going to bed now and see if I can get some sleep.

 

[shelley262]

@Annb really feel for you and also annoyed on your behalf that you made all that effort for what sounds like fairly unhelpful advice - not the support you were hoping for. Hope you managed a good rest last night and the shakes have calmed.
Our rotten decking is now ripped out so it's clearing and levelling to do today and adding the gravel. Looks like a dry day though. We've also got a whole new border for me to plant up - good job I've got a gardening voucher to use left from my birthday.
Plans for food involve kefir with low carb granola, hummus and a few veggies for lunch and chicken tikka in a LC wrap with salad for our main meal.

 

[Mrs Redboots]

The rain was away yesterday evening, so we went for a walk in one of our local parks, which was lovely. This morning I'm sitting looking at the rowanberries on the tree outside the window, which seem to have arrived almost overnight. They aren't quite ripe yet, though, but the birds will have a feast when they are. Last year, there was a very fat pigeon who would perch on a branch that only just bore its weight, and stuff itself silly, rocking back and forth to maintain its balance.

Talking of feasts, breakfast was overnight oats with mixed berries, etc. Not sure about lunch, but will do my cauliflower cheese bake for supper. Have a great day, everyone!

 

[jpscloud]

Breakfast was porridge, lunch is tuna salad and tea will be curry from the freezer with garden vegetables.

 

[Annb]

Breakfast: Baked cream with raspberries again. Tea.

2nd meal will be veggie burger with baked beans. Not especially wholesome but I don't care today. I need comfort food.

 

[Mrs Redboots]

Not a lot wrong with veggie burger and baked beans - nice low GI, so shouldn't spike your blood glucose.

I made quick rolls for lunch (just 2 ingredients), which would have been nicer had I read through my recipe before making them, but they were still delicious with butter and cottage cheese, and a slice of chicken breast, followed by an ice lolly. Sadly, didn't last me until supper-time but, although I was tempted to have a hot cross bun, I had a handful of nuts and raisins and then a couple of squares - well, maybe four - of dark hazelnut chocolate. Meanwhile, my cauliflower cheese bake is in the oven. I decided against using cannelini beans in the mash, as I only have a large tin (must stock up on small tins when I'm in France next month) and there wasn't time to cook dried ones from scratch, so instead I extended the potato with butternut squash. So with cauliflower, sweetcorn, butternut and tomato, that's practically my five-a-day right there!!! Bought some Activia yoghurts in Tesco so we'll have one of those for pudding.

ETA Now eaten, plus some grapes. Now feel slightly sick! And there is a silly amount of cauliflower cheese left over, not nearly enough to do us again, and I don't want to waste it but am feeling singularly uninspired as to what to do with it. Ideas welcome!

 

[Annb]

Not a lot wrong with veggie burger and baked beans - nice low GI, so shouldn't spike your blood glucose.

I made quick rolls for lunch (just 2 ingredients), which would have been nicer had I read through my recipe before making them, but they were still delicious with butter and cottage cheese, and a slice of chicken breast, followed by an ice lolly. Sadly, didn't last me until supper-time but, although I was tempted to have a hot cross bun, I had a handful of nuts and raisins and then a couple of squares - well, maybe four - of dark hazelnut chocolate. Meanwhile, my cauliflower cheese bake is in the oven. I decided against using cannelini beans in the mash, as I only have a large tin (must stock up on small tins when I'm in France next month) and there wasn't time to cook dried ones from scratch, so instead I extended the potato with butternut squash. So with cauliflower, sweetcorn, butternut and tomato, that's practically my five-a-day right there!!! Bought some Activia yoghurts in Tesco so we'll have one of those for pudding.

ETA Now eaten, plus some grapes. Now feel slightly sick! And there is a silly amount of cauliflower cheese left over, not nearly enough to do us again, and I don't want to waste it but am feeling singularly uninspired as to what to do with it. Ideas welcome!

Blitz it with some cream and use it as a sauce or dressing for something.
Add some other veg and make a pot pie with it.
Make an omelette with it, or a quiche.
Roasted cauliflower tart with some added peppers.
Baked cauliflower cream (florets in the bottom of an oven proof dish, cover well with double cream, bake about 180C for 25 minutes, or until cream sets.
Blend with cream cheese and make a spread for toast or crackers.

 

[Antje77]

The dietician was a bit of a waste of time and effort that I couldn't afford!.

Today, I just couldn't walk. I tried but it just wasn't happening. So Neil brought the wheelchair in from the car for me and had to push me down the ramp (not difficult apart from all the plant pots in the way) and back up again (much harder, although this time the plant pots were removed first).

This was after a really bad night. BG behaved perfectly but for some reason I couldn't stop shaking. Eventually, I gave up, got up and took some painkillers - by this time my hip had started on another flare up adventure. That seemed to have dealt with the shaking as well so I assume it had something to do with dehydration, even though I had had a full 2 litres of fluid during the day. As I have today, but the shaking started up again half an hour ago. I took some more painkillers (hip is very demanding) and another glass of water, and it seems to have settled down again - the shaking not the hip.

The dietician didn't know about the fasting before and after taking the Semaglutimide. She could only suggest having skimmed milk instead of f/f and stopping the butter and cream. Also stop eating sausages - even though they are nowadays a one week in five treat. Eat fish, but not too often, eat only chicken rather than other meats. That is reduce the calories and fats as far as humanly possible since I don't do any exercise to use up some !!surplus!! energy. What she did say, though, is that I must take sufficient insulin with carbs (starchy ones, I think she means) but no insulin at all without starchy carbs. So fruit is fine as long as I don't take insulin with it. She still hasn't investigated the lchf diet, and knows nothing about it.

She didn't approve of today's breakfast which was baked cream with raspberries. That was about 150 ml of double cream and about 10 small raspberries. No insulin and BG remained in the 5's.

The other thing she told me was that my care is the responsibility of the GP. The hospital doesn't deal with T2s any more. The consultant who comes from the mainland once in a while, also only deals with T1s She didn't seem to know about T3 etc. However, just last week the diabetes nurse at our Health Centre told me that I had been referred back to the hospital because the Practice don't have the resources to support all my extra bits and pieces of problems. So I don't know where I am on that. Must talk to that nurse again.

So - nothing gained except a whole lot of pain and I got wet!

2nd meal today was cottage cheese with some slices of tomato and of cucumber. I did manage to stand for a few minutes to chop those. I explained to the dietician that I always use a small plate (teaplate) so that I can't put too much on it but I must admit, it was rather piled up with one large tomato, about 3 inches of cucumber and a couple of tablespoons of cottage cheese.

It's 11.34 so I am going to bed now and see if I can get some sleep.

Don't let the dietician let you down, you know way more than her, especially when it comes to diabetes.
You went down the rabbit hole last year I think following advice, and it didn't do you any good.
Where you did well over the 10 or so years I've known you, it was when you followed your own sound mind.

The other thing she told me was that my care is the responsibility of the GP. The hospital doesn't deal with T2s any more. The consultant who comes from the mainland once in a while, also only deals with T1s She didn't seem to know about T3 etc. However, just last week the diabetes nurse at our Health Centre told me that I had been referred back to the hospital because the Practice don't have the resources to support all my extra bits and pieces of problems. So I don't know where I am on that.

being referred to the hospital on a typical T1 insulin regime makes perfect sense to me.
I forgot, have you ever had a C-peptide test to see how much insulin you produce and if you may actually be a T1?

And there is a silly amount of cauliflower cheese left over, not nearly enough to do us again, and I don't want to waste it but am feeling singularly uninspired as to what to do with it. Ideas welcome!

After @Annb 's ideas I wish I had cauliflower cheese leftovers!

I'll add turning it into a soup or use it as the base of a creamy, cheesy soup, just at leeks, maybe small meatballs, onions, whatever veggies need to be used and a stock cube or the real thing.