SunnyExpat
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You are safe from me. This is the purpose of my OP, to find out what lurks within.....
The Google search I did ran out of steam after page 1, and most of the listings were referencing the same MIT report. Most of the 'reputable' reviews of the report (NHS, FORBES, Medical News Today, The Independant, et al) were making the same observation from the report that the mice were fed fat, became obese, and suffered in the same way as previously shown in studies, that obesity increases the risk of certain cancers. The consensus was that if you use a high fat diet in order to become obese, then there are consequences. the study did not replicate the conditions where the intake of fat is used to maintain a good body weight, but not to excess. I.E intake remains in control. I think anyone on LCHF is choosing the recommended oils and fats, and not bingeing out.
There was another study listed, and this was the link between breast cancer and a high fat diet. Again, the link to obesity and other factors could not be isolated from the result, and the result was inconclusive.
Having just lost a friend to colorectal cancer at a young age (48) //i am aware of the danger, but in his case he was a large man, not diabetic or obese, and eating 'Eatwell plate' type of diet as far as I could tell. But he drank alcohol regularly.
I think a single study is too early to cause a panic, but if you find other reports, then please post them here. There is of course the other study that seems to show a link between red meat consumption and cancer, and also the study that appears to link processed meat with cancer. My grandparents and boarding schools bought me up on bread and dripping, bacon sarnies, and Sunday Roasts. My Dad has just passed away aged 94. and he had a high fat diet too. My mother died from T1D, but she used fat like there was no tomorrow. So I personally think it is modern life, modern processing, and transfats that are just as reponsible.
You haven't put me off LCHF yet.
The benefits appear to come from lowering both. The two aspects should be taken together.It's not the amount of carbs that matters, it's their glycemic load.
I made the mistake of eating half a bag of cashew nuts because others here said they were low carb OOOPS! Big mistake! my BGL bounced up more than 7 mmol.L within 2 hours. Turns out the carb content was 35 g /100g of which sugars was 9g/100 g. Made a similar mistake once by snacking on a fruit & nut mix. It was a foreign brand, and did not list carb content.nice post. I also find that I can eat more fat and put on weight. But I do find certain products have a bigger effect. Cream for example causes me to gain more than almonds and hazelnuts. My conclusion is that it is related to the associated insulin requirement with each food. Peanuts are my favourite way to gorge myself to add weight but they aren't as good as cream.
I think we need something to hang our hats on. HF may be being misinterpreted (?), but it is the antithesis of the Low Fat diets, so is appropriate. It is also a tool we have in the toolkit to control weight without interfereing with the other (bgl) control mechanism.To me HF means simply 'not low fat'
I would think it would be less likely on LCHF since it's the lack of fat which causes gallstones on other low cal diets. LCHF can be low in calories, but it isn't necessarily low cal. It certainly doesn't have to be 800 cals like some. I range from 1200-2400 cals on LCHF, so not very low cal at all.I am surprised that no one has raised the issues regarding gallstones or kidney stones, which are apparently linked to LC diets and sudden weight loss diets.
I have read some low grade blog type articles on this, but have not found any believable studies on these topics. Anyone got something to share? Anyone experiencing gallstone problems while doing LCHF? So far I have no personal experience, and do not wish to have any later.
I am surprised that no one has raised the issues regarding gallstones or kidney stones, which are apparently linked to LC diets and sudden weight loss diets.
I have read some low grade blog type articles on this, but have not found any believable studies on these topics. Anyone got something to share? Anyone experiencing gallstone problems while doing LCHF? So far I have no personal experience, and do not wish to have any later.
Why is that? Why not call it normal fat?To me HF means simply 'not low fat'
I am surprised that no one has raised the issues regarding gallstones or kidney stones, which are apparently linked to LC diets and sudden weight loss diets.
I have read some low grade blog type articles on this, but have not found any believable studies on these topics. Anyone got something to share? Anyone experiencing gallstone problems while doing LCHF? So far I have no personal experience, and do not wish to have any later.
Because when I discovered the LCHF way of eating I didn't know others were doing it. I didn't know it had a name. I just knew that the low fat manufactured products that I had used for years weren't good for me and they were making me fat and ill. So 'normal' fat didn't mean anything to me. What's normal? Most people cut down on fat even now, so that would be 'normal' to them. So I reduced carbs and stopped consuming low fat products. The actual percentage of carbs:fat varies with me all the time.Why is that? Why not call it normal fat?
To me LCHF means you get very little energy from carbs and a lot from fat. So if you get 5E% from carbs and 15E% from protein, that means you get 80E% from fat. Or in my case, around 150-230 grams of pure fat per day depending on how hungry I am.
I understand, fat is still seen as the devil. i do however believe that to leave HF to mean every level of fat intake above low makes it far too wide.Because when I discovered the LCHF way of eating I didn't know others were doing it. I didn't know it had a name. I just knew that the low fat manufactured products that I had used for years weren't good for me and they were making me fat and ill. So 'normal' fat didn't mean anything to me. What's normal? Most people cut down on fat even now, so that would be 'normal' to them. So I reduced carbs and stopped consuming low fat products. The actual percentage of carbs:fat varies with me all the time.
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