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What to eat in morning?

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Hi, I am type 2 and wonder if you could give me some advice. before leaving for work I used to drink a protein shake, then would have my breakfast at work at 10am (bacon eggs, chipolatas, tomatoes, onions and mushrooms) however I have a manual job and over the last 2 months (maybe it's the Scottish winter weather) I have been really hungry so I have started eating a Lidl protein roll before I leave the house and having porridge (which my wife has just shown me I am having 80g of porridge plus milk, in my bowl, which based on the nutritional info of the packet is around 66g of carbs ☹️. She has now banned the porridge and I am back on the bacon and eggs but am I ok still with the protein roll first thing around 7am then breakfast at 10? I have noticed over the last few weeks that my stomach has swollen and I am now wondering if this has anything to do with the porridge!
 
Some people have a problem with eating any carbs early in the morning. I think I'd give up the porridge (definitely) and have the protein drink - and maybe also the Lidl protein roll toasted with butter - if you still get the feeling of having a swollen tummy then give up the Lidl roll.

Do you have a meter and test your blood for glucose? Its a sure fire way to know which foods work for you and which don't.
 
I wasn't keen on the shake plus it did not fill me up. That's why I went on the protein roll. Can't believe how stupid I've been. I am literally just sitting writing down everything I ate yesterday. Been wondering for a few months why my stomach was getting more swollen. Kept blaming the wife as I always say I only eat what she gives me and she is very strict with our meals at night and at lunchtime but my breakfast and snacks are what I put in. Probably going to get a fright when I total this up.
 
I changed doctors last year and my new doctor was confused as to why I was at diabetic clinic as my bloods were showing I was not diabetic. It wasn't until she looked at previous tests she saw the difference. So to be honest I just went "woohoo" I'm not diabetic and I can eat what I want and I don't need to test And I did go of the rails at work for a few months till my wife caught some evidence in my lunch bag. So I will resume testing. Too scared to do it today
 
Don't worry about it - I think we've all done something like this at one time or another.

It really helps if you can test your blood to find out how foods affect you. Something might be low carb but your body might react to it differently. I have a problem with, of all things, mushrooms - they have next to no carbs in but my body reacts to them an puts my BG up - so I don't eat many mushrooms. :( Other people find that they can eat small amounts of porridge or can't eat Lidl protein rolls. Everyone is different - which is why a meter is handy.
 
I changed doctors last year and my new doctor was confused as to why I was at diabetic clinic as my bloods were showing I was not diabetic. It wasn't until she looked at previous tests she saw the difference. So to be honest I just went "woohoo" I'm not diabetic and I can eat what I want and I don't need to test And I did go of the rails at work for a few months till my wife caught some evidence in my lunch bag. So I will resume testing. Too scared to do it today

If it were me I'd test to find out where I am then make a fresh start. Your wife sounds like a very sensible woman. :)
 
Hi @Silver165silver .. and welcome
My advice would be to listen to your wife (always a wise move ;)) .. you might find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. also the following websites ...
Low Carbs in 60 Seconds
Low Carb 10-week Programme

If you are considering testing, try the website at: https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/ for the SD Codefree meter or: http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/ who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free. I have been using both for comparative purposes since Feb 16th. The costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. I'm testing 3-4 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for the two packages above. My surgery will not provide the strips etc on prescription .. but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I will be able to manage them
Hope this helps
 
I have just added up the food I eat without lunch and dinner for last few months l. Not good.
I think you are aware of the issue. Now you know the problem, it is time to solve it. The low carb program on here is a good starter for ten. Have a look at diet doctor for additional info.
 
Hi and welcome, :)

If your tummy was swollen after introducing the protein rolls, then you may find it worth going gluten free for a while - just to see if that helps.

One of the biggest ingredients in those protein rolls is wheat protein, and gluten is a wheat protein.
The ingredient list states; Water, Linseeds, Wheat Protein, Soya Flour, Whole Wheat Flour, Sesame, Soybean Meal, Sunflower Seeds, Wheat Bran, Oat Fiber, Yeast, Salt, Colouring Spice Extracts (Curcuma).
http://nuutrii.com/article/lidl-protein-bread-rolls-review
 
I now know why my stomach is swollen apart from the porridge, it's just pure fat Well time to kick myself back into control. My wife just added up everything I ate yesterday (and that has been no different from any other day over that last 2/3 months. I have ate over 5000 calories and over 500g of carbs. She made me be honest and I added in the 4 slice of bread with ham and butter (as thick as a slice of cheese) I sneak in before she gets in. The bag of rice I sneak in my lunch bag every day. Could any of you explain if this is why I am also exhausted constantly?
 
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All that food in itself would exhaust me but all those carbs and I'd be comatose. 5000 calories is a lot and 500 carbs is crazy lot, especially someone with bs disregulation.

Do you blend your protein shake? Add avocado. The fat and fiber should help fill you up. Beware of carbs in protein shakes. Some have quite a few.

All those ingredients B posted would bloat the begeezers out of me. I wouldn't go near them with a 10 ft pole!!

Well at least it's all in black and white now and you know things have to change.
 
I now know why my stomach is swollen apart from the porridge, it's just pure fat Well time to kick myself back into control. My wife just added up everything I ate yesterday (and that has been no different from any other day over that last 2/3 months. I have ate over 5000 calories and over 500g of carbs. She made me be honest and I added in the 4 slice of bread with ham and butter (as thick as a slice of cheese) I sneak in before she gets in. The bag of rice I sneak in my lunch bag every day. Could any of you explain if this is why I am also exhausted constantly?

You're exhausted because that's what carbs do to us Type 2s. Too many carbs = high blood glucose and with high blood glucose comes loads of physiological problems, including constant fatigue. Other problems include increased thirst, headaches, trouble concentrading, blurred vision and frequent peeing.
 
Since going low carb my equator is rapidly becoming a waistline - I have nothing that fits - things fall off.
My weight isn't dropping, but my fat is getting up and wandering around.
Diabetes seems to stack up fat around the middle, creating a bay window effect. Carbs will make you feel hungry if they are dealt with and pretty lousy if they are not, but they will also push your numbers back into the diabetes range - I can eat more carbs now without hitting 10, but I don't as I'm aiming for no more than 8 after eating. I accept that diabetes will never be cured, only controlled - so constant vigilance.
At least your job and male metabolism should make it easier to get back into prediabetic numbers, I just hope that your first test is not to much of a shock.
 
@Silver165silver

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) As mentioned above, here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, especially in choosing your diet options. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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Thank you to everyone. Back on the wagon. Was going to test but have no strips. Was there a discount code for strips on here at one point? Thank you again. Some things now make a lot a sense.
 
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