What was your fasting blood glucose? (full on chat)

gennepher said:

fbg 7.3 despite yesterday and the long meal with friends I had in the afternoon.

I had salmon with a sauce and vegetables.

Then we talked a bit. They had noticed I had lost weight when they came in. From my face and body. They were surprised I had lost 11kg since we last met for a meal 4 weeks ago.

I got told I shouldn't lose weight too fast because I will only put it on again. I explained I was doing low carb healthy fat (phrased that way sounds much better than low carb high fat).

Anyway we talked a bit before we ordered the dessert.

I explained a bit more about sugars and that it was about 45% glucose (which is the okay bit to keep you satisfied from your meal), but 55% fructose (which is the bit keeping you wanting more and more). And I explained a tiny little more so they could understand why. And it made sense to them.

One person goes to slimming world and she has plateaued for a long time now, as have the others in her slimming world group, and she is getting discouraged. She seems to have put on more weight in my eyes. But the slimming world organiser says just keep at our diet and it will work.

Another person in my group is diabetic. I don't know if she is type 1 or 2, but I think type 2 because her father was. She always has very bad leg ulcers which never seem to heal and is on a cocktail of meds because of that.

I did explain about healthy fats, but I was told by her that I was only going to put weight on and cause myself health problems with eating butter and stuff. And in fact when I asked for extra butter to put on my veggies, her eyes opened very wide and she shook her head.

Then one person asked what advantages I had noticed with being on my low carb diet. And I explained I had more energy, didn't feel tired and dull all the time, and best of all I didn't walk into the next room to get something and say what was it I came in here for (which is a running joke and topic of conversation when we meet weekly. We don't meet when the kids have summer hols unless it is for a meal). I said I can remember now, and my memory is much better and clearer.

So ulcer leg lady says how can you remember all that and all those facts? I have just explained why!

Then dessert menu is brought over. They all order sugar laden desserts (which I would have done at one time in the past). And normally I don't order a dessert, but I had decided for just that day I would order the cheese platter, but hold the biscuits and crackers. Because usually I feel a bit of a lemon sitting there while they are all enjoying their desserts.

Anyway my cheese platter comes out, and they all look in horror at it. You can't eat all that cheese. Here is my serviette, I haven't used it said one, you can put the cheese in there to take home.

Thank you, but I am eating all the cheese I told them. Their eyes open very wide. Ulcer lady says all that full fat in the cheese is not good for me....

Ulcer diabetic lady is having a massive triple ice cream with maple syrup drizzled all over....

I rest my case, but I say no more.

I am hoping this weight loss continues, and all other advantages being on low carb continues so they can see yet another difference in me when we meet again in a few weeks time.

So, this morning I am back on to a 3 or 4 hour window of eating, and finishing eating my last mouthful by midday today.

The sun has finally got up...it was hiding behind clouds.

Have a good day and weekend.

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ziggy_w said:

Yay, I found this thread again. Too bad it doesn't show up in the recent posts tab. (Have stopped posting for a while due to stress at work, but am now on semester break.)

Fasting blood sugars were 4.3 today.

Weather is sunny today, not a cloud to be seen. We are expecting 29 degrees centigrade today. Almost like being on vacation. Later today, we'll go out for a glass of wine (also some sun and people watching).

@gennepher -- It almost seems surreal, doesn't it, to be told you'll gain weight on this diet when they have just warned you not to lose weight to quickly.

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ianpspurs said:

Thanks for the good wishes @gennepher. Don't worry about having an answer for me I don't think there is a way I will ever enjoy most of the fats part of this woe. I liked the account of your meal, the fact you enjoyed your cheese and the contrast between yourself and "ulcer lady". Well done for sticking to and up for your beliefs. Many members view DX as a sharp shock which set them on road to a better life. I hope this period of turbulence in my world acts in the same way. I am glad LC has had far wider benefits for you than just bg control or weight loss. Several people have found the same, which is interesting. If I am honest, all I have really noticed is weight loss but I live in hope of seeing other benefits.

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jjraak said:

FBG yesterday and this am 5.5...Yay...good old codefree.
https://homehealth-uk.com/ sent me a new meter to replace the one i stupidly dropped on floor and broke..
great service too..ordered late afternoon on Tuesday..got on Thursday morning

so we are BACK in the GAME. baby....


xxxx

2nd session of counselling yesterday
a lot tougher then first.
reviewed a lot of things in my life, growing up years etc and later

Started off discussing the loss of Mum, and how i feel i let her down as i don't mourn her the way i did dad,
and i just choked..Lady was ever so good. went over the details, and that last day.

Short story
dad ill many years 2000-2009
Mum declined over same period.
dad terminal cancer, treatment to relieve only. passed away 20009
Mum senile dementia
Mum into a home 2005, just unmanageable.passed away 2016

dad suffered many illnesses and bouts of severe diarrhoea
with the poor quality of care at A&E we agree between us i should help nurse him at home,
Far too intimate for any son to do, but love pushes you over ANY line that is arbitrarily drawn in the sands for us.

Suffice to say the day he fell sick and we called docs.."fetch family " was NOT what i expected.

Doc then asked what hospital should do IF he failed to recover at any point ..(aka resuscitate)
Stunned dad then asked me what I thought ....F***
You can't ask that of someone else, can you.
but that was the measure of how close we had become
i stuttered .."i have no idea, what do you want to happen.? "
"NO..i've had enough "

at Hospital they said he was just dehydrated, he'd be fine...
so family insisted i went home
(shattered, long days, home to make food for him, visits at all hours when he was poorly clearly had taken it's toll)..and then little sleep the night before, so off i went to get a few hours.

Not to be..a call an hour later, dash back, unconscious, spent 15 mins saying good bye before he stopped breathing.
he was surrounded by Family so as nice as anything like that could be, so grateful for that.


Back with Counsellor, family history shows a few occasions when medical advise was poor or just insufficient...sister passed away aged 27, dad not diagnosed for years, simple test ..mum not checked despite numerous falls

drilling down it's not the fact i got type2..it's the RAGE inside me at the way it was delivered.

which doesn't explain it all, i still know it's something else inside me, that i am now becoming aware of, so the sessions are helping.

so i'm dealing with a few things that i wasn't aware were still bothering me, and finding ways to manage that mix of emotions and feelings.

On a positive note, i would say for anyone on the edge of deciding to get some counselling, from being a sceptic,
i'd say Do it.

Turned out to be useful for me anyway, to discuss such personal issues with those who are not invested or might be disturbed by the discussions.

It's good to talk, but i am mindful, we only trust a few, and those we do, we also try to protect, By NOT talking.
( a rather poisonous circle feeding itself slowly in your subconsciousness.)

So a small weight off my shoulders today, a new day has dawned, so off to do a few bits to the Bike.
and hope for a replica of the great weather we had yesterday.

Arrivederci as they say in Italia..

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Krystyna23040 said:

She is so lucky - diabetes is certainly still quite mystifying. So she is actually cured or reversed.

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trick60 said:

Flipping heck mate, you have been through the mill.
Sounds like you have a diamond in that counsellor, I do hope she gets you sorted out mate, you had my bottom lip going there.
If ever this thread ever has a meet up, I sincerely hope we get to have more than a few pints of the black stuff and giggle stupidly at stuff that should be far too serious to giggle at

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Bubbsie said:

Juts posted this 'elsewhere' since it's in the public eye they should be aware of it...be interesting to see the reaction.

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Debandez said:

@gennepher I'm sure I read kidney function can improve. Try not to worry. I will try and find out more and get back to you. Great news on hba1c. Hugs going your way.

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Debandez said:

@gennepher, good news, after a quick look I found lots on you tube from dr Jason fung (kidney specialist) and dr Sarah hallberg on improving kidney function.

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Debandez said:

I'm thinking cured but who knows!!! It could throw a curb ball.

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gennepher said:

I forgot to post my fbg at 5am

Guess what!

A 6.9!!!

That is very good for me.

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