What was your fasting blood glucose? (full on chat)

Lamont D said:

If your intolerance is subject to the cake, lots of quick glucose into the blood, the insulin you produced supply, may not be enough to stop the spike from going that high so quickly, and your pancreas may have to produce more to bring it back down to your pre meal range.overproduction and circulating insulin is never that good.
too much glucose is not good, too much insulin is not good. Keeping the spikes under control is always better. This is why low carb is good for you.
my spike is around 45 minutes. And with cake, my BG levels will always be above 12mmols around the spike. Because I have a weak first phase insulin response. So I try to eat very low carbs to keep my BG levels in the normal (ish) zone. (I refer it to my glorious zone) Not too high, not too low, just right for me.
so no cake for me!
along with a lot of other carbs and sugars. And dairy cos of my lactose intolerance.
Salad for tea!

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Thanks for taking the time to reply @Lamont D.
As I said have never been sure what is too high a rise. Esp when return to normal happens quickly.
Salad for tea here too.

SlimLizzy said:

Thanks for taking the time to reply @Lamont D.
As I said have never been sure what is too high a rise. Esp when return to normal happens quickly.
Salad for tea here too.

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I believe the general rule is

If your BG after 2 hours is

a) no more than 2.0 mmol/l higher than the pre-meal reading and

b) no more than 8.5 mmol/l

then your system coped adequately with the carbs. A non-diabetic person will also get a spike after eating carbs, which is automatically brought down again without much delay.

9.1 for me first thing, dropping to 8.8 two hours later.

Edited as originally posted 9.8 and 9.1 for some reason.

Fbg 6.3

Some research today...on my possible birth father. I assumed when my cousin told me he was my brother and his mother was my mother, that his father was also my father. But some people on Ancestry on the same family line as me said that it was unlikely he was my father. But who's to know that they were right? It was a description in a book, which has his name signed to it that I was exploring and researching today. I was surprised I found out so much.

I bought three beautiful potted Fuschia plants. I assume it was a badger that massacred one of them in the night. So that means I just have just two Fuschia bushes left....

So my creative is a photo of just one of the Fuschia bushes that I have left...

Night night from me... it is a heckishly warm wind outside, and my bungalow is still far far too warm inside...

Sweet dreams

Annb said:

You should be happy with it. It's a lovely scene.

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Thank’s @Annb - to me it sits more Tracy Emin (yuk) than Paula Rego (smashing).

28.06
9.00am FBG 5.7
late night snack of hard boiled eggs, so maybe it will come down.
Very lethargic this morning.
But lots to do. All the pots and stuff moved to facilitate the drain modification needs replacing or rearranging, for a start
Also MrSlim has already advertised the large chest freezer we won't need once the new super duper fridge freezer is operational - and someone wants it. So need to transfer contents, defrost and clean.
Still not sorted out kitchen units, or paint. Am getting very stressed about this while MrSlim just gets on with the next job until we can reach agreement.
So he has started on the back hall while we decide and has taken out the bottom stair (don't forget it's a long way down) and some of the rotten floor.
Today am feeling as if we Will never finish, esp after hearing that we might have visitors around mid August. No bedroom fit to offer anyone at the moment. The shower is ok, but the room it is in is kind of gross. As is the toilet. Would not like others to have to use either. So suddenly work schedule is changed and we have a tight timescale.

debs248 said:

9.1 for me first thing, dropping to 8.8 two hours later.

Edited as originally posted 9.8 and 9.1 for some reason.

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Brain went a bit loopy yesterday, sorry.

9.5 today

dunelm said:

Thank’s @Annb - to me it sits more Tracy Emin (yuk) than Paula Rego (smashing).

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I don't see it as remotely Tracy Emin (I don't like her work either). Can't see what I've seen of Paula Rego's in there either but maybe you have seen more of her work than I have. I would think of her work as "interesting, but I'm not sure..." which, I think is what art is about. Makes you think.

BG at 0420 today was 8.9. Stayed there for a long time, despite insulin and breakfast but has started rising now for no apparent reason.

Nothing much of interest happening here today. Windy but bright sunshine. Not very warm though.

Neil has just bought himself a 2nd hand "mixer", which has nothing to do with food but something to do with electronic music. No doubt that will hold all his attention for a week or so now, and other things will be left. Ah well - that's life. He also bought a couple of very smart 2nd hand chairs - adjustable height, swivel, black leatherette and chrome. Might be bar stools or perhaps work stools. No idea where he is going to put them, or where he is going to put the chairs that need to move to make space for them. I do have to admit, though, that they are very smart and good value at £15 each.

6.1 this morning. A very very busy day but lovely that my Norwich venue has air con. It was so nice to be cool all day long. Without air con I doubt if anyone would have come to the classes. The lure of the air con meant that all classes were full.

Now am relaxing in the conservatory with a coffee after a delicious salad for dinner.

SlimLizzy said:

Thanks for taking the time to reply @Lamont D.
As I said have never been sure what is too high a rise. Esp when return to normal happens quickly.
Salad for tea here too.

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I was told anything over double figures, depending on your fasting or pre meal reading. Is something to avoid.
More salad today.

debs248 said:

I believe the general rule is

If your BG after 2 hours is

a) no more than 2.0 mmol/l higher than the pre-meal reading and

b) no more than 8.5 mmol/l

then your system coped adequately with the carbs. A non-diabetic person will also get a spike after eating carbs, which is automatically brought down again without much delay.

9.1 for me first thing, dropping to 8.8 two hours later.

Edited as originally posted 9.8 and 9.1 for some reason.

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what if your pre meal reading is around 8.5mmols?
I think you are quoting non diabetic rules the majority on here are diabetic which needs to be adjusted for the level of your pre meal blood glucose levels.
currently I'm in the mid sevens, and I don't want to go anywhere near nine mmols.
because of my intolerances.

Lamont D said:

what if your pre meal reading is around 8.5mmols?

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Nobody has explained that to me yet, not even on this site. Does anyone know?

Lamont D said:

I think you are quoting non diabetic rules the majority on here are diabetic which needs to be adjusted for the level of your pre meal blood glucose levels.

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I got them from this forum and other diabetes websites. Yet to get any guidance from the NHS.

Lamont D said:

currently I'm in the mid sevens, and I don't want to go anywhere near nine mmols.
because of my intolerances.

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I don't either but as I start the day around 10 I have little choice in the matter. Fortunately my BGs do come down to the 7s by late evening. I've even had a couple of 7.0s this week.

Hell is my life.
At six this morning, Mrs L locked herself out.
Mrs L broke the lock.
Had to phone at 7 o'clock.
First wash put on after first cuppa.
Dishwasher put on.
Front room chores, then kitchen duties till 10 am.
Second wash on.
Mrs L was baby sat while I did half n hours local shopping
Relieved babysitter, and hung washing.
Locksmith arrived and fixed door.
More kitchen chores, feeding Mrs L breakfast, for some reason late today.
Our bed stripped, and remade, clean up in bedroom. Mrs L is having a nap.
Bed washing on. Breakfast clean up.
Noon.
Mrs L made another mess.
Hovered bedroom and stairs and lounge.
Kitchen preparations.
Mrs L is being quite unreasonable,
Not had anything to eat yet.
Cannot escape the demanding nature of her mood swings and the irrelevant and out of touch thinking, that demands so much of my time.
More tea, more compromise, more exercise.
A quick salad and a nice came for Mrs L tea.
More washing, a bit of time to put some of her clothes away, just in case and in her case, something happens in the coming days.
Last washing off line, perfect day for drying, a tad too windy tho. No garden time, no me time either.
Just sat down after dishes and a quick tidy up.
Early bed tonight.
Knackered.
Hoping tomorrow is a better day.
This post has taken two hours to type.
I apologise, no FBG.
I wonder why?
Mrs L is watching a favourite film for about the millionth time. I I have told you a million times, I don't exaggerate!
My best wishes as always.

debs248 said:

Nobody has explained that to me yet, not even on this site. Does anyone know?

I got them from this forum and other diabetes websites. Yet to get any guidance from the NHS.

I don't either but as I start the day around 10 I have little choice in the matter. Fortunately my BGs do come down to the 7s by late evening. I've even had a couple of 7.0s this week.

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Ok, the usual file for someone with prediabetic levels or diabetic levels, which includes other conditions like mine. Is.......
If you have a pre meal reading of 8mmols..... (Just rounding up).........
Two hours after first bite, should not be more than two mmols higher than your pre meal reading.
So if pre meal reading is 8mmols at two hours it should not be higher than ten mmols.
Keep trying to reduce your carb intake and watch out for those hidden sugars especially in processed foods.

Fbg 6.8

Too hot earlier, I was wiped out....

Creative is a kaleidoscope of the fuchsia plant of yesterday...

Night night

3.7 at 04.20 today. The Libre woke me up to tell me so. An emergency toffee (a single one kept by my bed permanently these days - gone soft after so long, but still sugar enough) put it up fairly rapidly to 5.3. I find toffee more effective than any other thing to stop BG dropping. With other things (coffee, tea, fruit pastilles etc) it can take quite a long time before the drop stops and starts to reverse. One toffee sweet stops the drop immediately and reverses it in 5 minutes.

Bright sunshine here at the moment, but still windy.

Good morning everyone on an oven ready extra crispy skin start to the day here in the very bright and still dangerous north.
5.8 this a.m. - I am blaming anything coincidental.
All doors and windows open at the back of the house and blinds firmly closed to the rising thermonuclear reactor which appears to be climbing into the sky but I suspect that that is just an illusion. “And yet it moves” if you believe that all quotes are genuine.
Early morning conversation with my mum and our paltry ration of centigrades pales into insignificance compared to her already 28 degrees by 9am. She tells me that she will be taking refuge in her art room which is in the coolest part of the house and practicing painting poppies for a recent commission.
Slurping my koffy I realise that I must take and send forth the gas and electric readings and then make pleadings for some repeat prescriptions. Hope you can keep cool and carry on. Knotted hankies may be coming back into fashion.

29.06
FBG this morning 5.7
Very stressed about kitchen, which I know is not a life threatening issue, while MrSlim carries on with replacing the back hall floor. Kiki is not impressed.
the temporary overnight arrangements for kitchen and stairs access showing the cellar underneath.

6.1 this morning. Took Bonnie for n early walk in the park while it is still cool.

Friday I sent out timetables for the July block of classes to myn29 classes. Rather a lot of emails have arrived booking holiday days or requesting a change of class. It is a bit like musical chairs at the moment.

So today am switching between answering the emails and relaxing on the recliner chair drinking coffee and reading.

6.9

Very puzzling. This is the first "normal" fasting result I have ever had, apart from a handful of days when I fasted 15hours plus, and had read higher earlier in the day. Can it be that after over 2 months, either Metformin has finally kicked in or that my liver has decided to reduce its output for some other reason? It's quite a jump from the 9s, 10s and 11s I was getting until today. Yesterday I got a 6.4 and 6.8 in the evening so think this 6.9 is genuine. Thursday and Friday were quite stressful, if anything I'd have expected a rise, not a fall.