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celast

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Type of diabetes
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Diet only
What would happen if you did not bother to much about avoiding pastrys and sweet stuff and the likes ? what would it do to you if your blood glucose was always high :? :?
 
hi celast im sitting waiting for someone to answer you cause i feel like that often i think deep down we know the damage we will be doing to our organs
 
Hi both, according to the welcome note that Daisy usually posts for new members;

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

My friend's dad just had a foot amputated due to diabetic complications, its nasty stuff
 
The rates of complications are high enough. If you wat a list, Amputations, blindness, kidney failure, those are just the well known, because common, ones

Before insulin, T1s lived only very few years after diagnosis. they wasted away, burning their own muscles for fuel
the only treatment was starvation, so you see the choices
Hana.
 
the only treatment was starvation
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It wasn't a treatment, merely a delaying tactic. they still died, usually from DKA . Younger children survived for very short times. The same eventual fate also happened to people diagnosed later in life, some of whom probably had T2 but had bad enough symptoms and/or enough money to go to hospital for treatment . They just lasted a bit longer. source Joslin 1952 report on mortality during the previous 50 years) haven't time to find the link at moment.
(Nb many people diagnosed with T2 today wouldn't have been diagnosed with diabetes in the past, at least not until they became symptomatic)
 
The way I understand it is that high sugar makes the blood thicker (tending towards treacle). The circulation of the blood becomes difficult and blood may not go down the smaller vessels like capillaries. Some bits not getting nourishment then die. Some of these bits include nerves, eyes and in severe cases, after gangrene sets in whole limbs.

Since the onset of diabetes is gradual in some people the complications get worse and worse gradually and there comes a point where there is no going back.

Being a circulation problem the bits most at risk are the bits which circulation was difficult to anyway. The extremities like toes and fingers and eyes due to the fine nature of the blood vessels.
 
I forgot one important point. The high blood sugar can be a factor in killing off the beta cells in the pancreas so the diabetes makes your diabetes worse. It's a tough old world.
 
i can only speak for myself but after reading above posts very clearly explained, i totally understand the risks of continuous high sugar levels i tend to let diabetes beat me i seriously need to beat it, im reading alot about low carb and im going to try and find out more on here about whats low carb obviously i need to have less potatoes and white bread i have tried brown rice but i dont like it, and i cant stand cuscus which what oncea dietician recommended to me, but im sure there is plenty other things i can have if i do some research,thanks everyone for your posts
 
I once considered a theory that if my blood sugar was high and my insulin production would not or could not cope then why didn't all of me die at once instead of starting with the toes etc. I feel that this argument has some validity but since it's the feet and eyes that often go first then I am compelled to come to the conclusion that circulation does, in fact, play a role here.

Notwithstanding that some people do suffer internal organ damage as well as all other sorts of damage.

The autonomic nervous system is a case in point. This system is involved in the involuntary functions of the body. Heart beat, breathing, sexual sensation. The sexual sensation one, when lost, means that men become impotent and women go dry etc. so it you have ever wondered *** happened to that, now you know.

Enjoy your hamburger and chips.
 
I wrote this on another thread but if it helps anyone at all then I will copy it to here.

The four horsemen of the Apocalypse are sugar, flour, potato, rice. One or all of them need to be cut down in your diet. You can never tell whether it is one of them or all of them giving you high sugar levels which is why the use of a meter is so important. You write down what you had at your meal and do a test 2 hours afterwards. A process of elimination is gone through until you find the problem(s).

Quite a lot of people take the No Carbs route which although will certainly work may not be necessary. It's for you and your meter to find out.

In the meantime serve smaller portions of anything containing the above ingredients. One tip is to use smaller plates so it looks like there is more food.

There is no need to starve yourself. If you have less carbohydrates then have more veg or meat. Do not eat processed foods they often contain flour.

Good luck
 
thanks for all that sound advice Squire,,,,,, i have just been reading about carbs i have learnt a lot today from both you and low carb ideas but as you say in the meantime reduce my portions is very important and retry other options i love vegetables,fruit etc,so on a positive attitude im half way there with this forums help i know i can do it thanks once again
 
I would like to make another point that I think is important. In the past the word Diet has meant starving and eating things you don't like.

A diabetes diet isn't like that. Eat less sugar, potatoes, rice and flour possibly but don't go hungry. Cut down the flour and eat more veg and meat.

You have to have a new repertoire of meals that make your mouth water but don't put your sugar up.

If you have a meter find out how much of each you can eat.
 
Hello Charles

The honest answer is a lot of really bad stuff as has been mentioned by the other posters. If a diabetic wants to safely eat more sweet stuff and the like (more carbohydrate) then the alternative is to consider taking strong diabetic medication or more likely simply going onto insulin. Both of these cases will allow you to eat more carbohydrate and theoretically the insulin option would allow you to eat a carbohydrate rich diet. There are downsides to insulin, the risk of hypo's, it's tendency to make you gain weight and thus risk heart attacks and strokes etc so on an insulin regime you still need to follow an essentially strict healthy diet or you will risk your health in equivalently dangerous ways. As for stronger medication then that may well allow you to consume more carbohydrate and your meter can then tell you how much extra you can consume. Many off us do believe the strong medication route will hurry the diseases rate of progression leading to insulin sooner or later anyway and this is what a lot of doctors tell patients. So in all cases the advice is to consume a sensible healthy diet regardless of its carbohydrate content.
 
Type 1 since 12. Only of interest to males I suppose but continual high sugars, partly due to shift work, caused impotency aged 40. "Feels like the end of the world" not an overstatement. Keep the sugars under control.
 
mikethepike1965 said:
Type 1 since 12. Only of interest to males I suppose but continual high sugars, partly due to shift work, caused impotency aged 40. "Feels like the end of the world" not an overstatement. Keep the sugars under control.
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...and even more likely you can get a chronic thrush infection of your "old man". For me, and lots of others, this is the single biggest tell-tale sign of uncontrolled diabetes.

Impotency and thrush alone are good enough reasons to get your diabetes undercontrol (we don't even need to get into the bleeding eyeballs and amputated toes).
 
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