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Hideous

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Hi there,
I was diagnosed 2 weeks ago tomorrow and other than being given a meter to test and some Gliclazide 30mg, I have kinda been dumped.
Is there a usual time frame to see people who will tell me what to do and how to manage or is this it?
Feeling a bit abandoned in Devon.
 

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Are you certain you're type 1?
 

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Yes, your avatar says you are Type 1, but your post suggests you are Type 2. Please can you confirm which it is?
 

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It is important to know as the treatments for Type 1 and Type 2 are wildly different
 
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My Doc thinks I am Type 1 GAD and probably have been for 30yrs but the surgery sent me type 2 stuff on assumption - middle aged female, not thin. Been waiting for the test result for the whole 2 weeks. Sorry if it is confusing - I understand your queries.
 

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If you had been an untreated t1 for 30 years you would be dead
 

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Get a second opinion.. your doctor sounds like an idiot..seriously what was your HbA1c when you were diagnosed?
That's the test they should have used to see if you were diabetic or not?
 
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Ok as I know practically nothing about this disease bare with me. 109 - is that the number you want?

That sounds about right. It is very high, which is why you have been given Gliclazide. Gliclazide is not normally the first line treatment. It is normally added later if other drugs are not working properly.

If they are treating you as a T2 you may find your care is devolved to a nurse. She will sort you out with the required appointments for retinal eye screening and foot checks, should organise a place on an education course for you, and should talk to you about diabetes and your medication, and should arrange a further lot of blood tests in 3 months time.

Have a very good read round the forum, take note of how others manage this condition, read the success stories, and ask as many questions as you like. In the end, it all comes down to the food you eat, and this needs to be looked at and changed.
 

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The 109 could well be your Hba1c level, it indicates the amount of glucose stuck onto your red blood cells which is proportional to how high your blood glucose has been over the last few months. That is a bit simplified, but it is possible to reduce it to more normal levels by not eating the high carb foods which cause the problem.
Basically -if you can eat a roast dinner with - for instance, mushrooms, courgettes and a salad - probably without gravy made from starchy substances, you should be OK in the long run - but having bread, potatoes rice pasta porridge - the carby foods we are encouraged to eat, then they all turn to sugar when digested, and that is what you cannot deal with.
 
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Ok as I know practically nothing about this disease bare with me. 109 - is that the number you want?

Hideous - It sounds like your position is quite confused. That your Doc thinks you may have had diabetes for 30 years, and has prescribed Gliclazide suggests he's likely thinking Type 2, whilst he has actually said he thinks you're Type 1.

Of course, there could have been a slip of the tongue perhaps, but I think in your shoes it would be worthwhile ringing your surgery and asking for a call back to clarify those things.

I know not all areas have enabled it yet, even though they should have, but many of us find that online access to our medical records has allowed us to become more informed about test results and the like. It could be worthwhile asking about that too.

Good luck with it all.
 

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@Hideous

Hello Hideous and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will try and help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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