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Who takes the most insulin

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by martinbuchan, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. martinbuchan

    martinbuchan · Well-Known Member

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    I am on 190 units a day

    100 Levemir
    90 Novorapid.

    Surely only Americans take more than me?

    Marty B

    6 foot and 15 1/2 stone
     
  2. sugar

    sugar · Well-Known Member

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    Yup, you take more than me, although not sure how to compare at really?
    Anyway, I am currently on 24 levimir and 23 novorapis, although I do tweak these number up and down a bit.
     
  3. scoobysnack

    scoobysnack · Member

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    3x10 novarapid
    14 Glargine

    Is there any difference between Glargine and levemir?
     
  4. Addy

    Addy · Active Member

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    My insulin intake changes daily but yesterday i had:
    Basal rate total of 19.44u
    Bolus total of 34.90u
    Total of 54.34u

    ...falling is not the problem, it's when you land...
     
  5. sofaraway

    sofaraway · Well-Known Member

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    i take 10 units lantus and 2-6 units novorapid a day,

    i have a friend that takes 120 units lantus a day, but not sure how much fast acting

    glargine (lantus) and levemir are different insulins, made by different companies and have slight differences. but they both do the saem job, they are both long acting basal insulins, people would be on one or the other, never both.
     
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    sheepseyes69 · Member

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    i take 8 novarapid am, 8 lunch time, 11 or more evening meal, 26 of glargine at 9pm.
     
  7. kareeta

    kareeta Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I take 3 x 14 Humalog plus one extra of between 10 -14 units per day

    Then 26 units of Levemir at night



    Karen
     
  8. dave102

    dave102 · Active Member

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    What would be beneficial to readers would be if people stated their height and weight while saying how much insulin they're on, then one might be able to draw comparisons.

    kind regards
    Dave
     
  9. Claire

    Claire · Well-Known Member

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    I take 7 units levemir and between 1 and 8 units novorapid per day depending on what I eat. I am 5' 4 approx 53kg.

    I guess I'm not in the running for the person who takes the most insulin [:p]
     
  10. dave102

    dave102 · Active Member

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    Sorry, I should've posted my stuff too.

    I'm 6' and weigh 90kilos/14 stone.
    I haven't yet started the pen system, but based on my current consumption the doctor has suggested:-

    Lantus - 30 units
    NovoRapid - 10/12/14-16

    This may change, but is the starting point.

    kind regards
    Dave
     
  11. Buachaille

    Buachaille · Well-Known Member

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    Friend currently on 480. Frightening really.
     
  12. johnoswaldallan

    johnoswaldallan · Active Member

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    Very interesting topic: I have been a diabetic for many years now and over the years my insulin intake increased to over 200 units a day (Lantus twice daily and Novorapid 3 times daily) and my blood sugars were always too high. I have now reduced my insulin to approx 120 units a day (I adjust it as necessary) The one thing that I have learnt is that for me and I can only speak for myself, carbohydrate is my worst enemy. I don’t have a problem with protein, fats etc. For me there is no such thing as “good carbohydrates” whether they are short acting or long acting. I am now on a diet of 50grams of carbohydrate per day and have reduced my insulin quite considerably. I now very rarely get a blood sugar of more than 9 m/mol and they are more often than not between 5-8m/mol. Three or so months ago before I started this new regime my readings were all over the place, going into the high 20’s on a daily basis and then coming down to reasonably tolerable levels. Needles to say I felt constantly unwell. I have now worked out that my insulin to carbohydrate ratio is terrible, I need approx 2.4 units of insulin to clear 1 gram of carbohydrate. I do appreciate that this varies considerably from person to person but for me being diabetic my problem is carbohydrate. I am 13st 12lbs and 5’ 8”

    JOA
     
  13. dave102

    dave102 · Active Member

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    Hi John

    Could you elaborate on what you did to achieve your current results?
    I'd guess that we have the same build judging by your height/weight, and therefore think that what works for you could possibly be similar for myself.
    I've had diabetes for 41 years, and in the last 12 months have bbeen having problems with control.

    Have you found that your warning signs for hypos have declined over the years?

    kind regards
    Dave
     
  14. dave102

    dave102 · Active Member

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    Today for example I took my injection at 7.30am. Actrapid 40, Insulutard 22. BS level=9.7

    Didn't eat until midday: BS level 4.8
    1 toast
    bacon
    egg
    beans
    sausage
    mushroom

    Afternoon:
    1 bottle of lager
    1 whiskey (12yr old :))

    5pm BS level 14.9

    Just think what my readings would be like if I'd eaten xmas dinner!

    btw, I did no exercise today, just watched **** on the telly.

    kind regards
    Dave
     
  15. dave102

    dave102 · Active Member

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    Hi Sarah

    No, the 40 units of Actrapid is correct.
    My current injections are:
    morning - 36-40 Actrapid + 22/24 Insulutard
    evening - the same.

    I find being an earlyish riser that by 5pm my insulin has usually worn off.
    A couple of years ago the dose was less, something like 24 actrapid + 16 Insulutard (or Monotard as it was then).

    I'm having second thoughts about the pen system. I have the pens here, but don't like the idea of 4-5 injections a day.
    The mixing of insulins twice a day is easy to live with, but I don't think Insulutard is as good a long acting one as the Lantus (Glarcine).
    I'm going back to my consultant in Jan and will discuss my options with him.

    kind regards
    Dave
     
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    PhilipB · Newbie

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    Hi folks,

    I'm 48 & I've recently been diagnosed with LADA. Started insulin 4 weeks ago: I test about 10 times a day, and have adjusted my doses to 14 units Lantus (Glargine) and about 3-6 units Humalog before meals according to composition of meal. Larger meals, esp. with high fat or protein content will need 2nd injection after c.1hr, maybe up to another 5 units. I'm hoping for an HbA1c in the mid 5s next time...:) (last one before insulin was 6.8)
     
  17. martinbuchan

    martinbuchan · Well-Known Member

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    Good- I am not the highest.

    Agree, carbs are the enemy for someone like me. A full english breakfast is a great way (in the Atkins fashion) of having a naughty meal that doesn't need dosed up with lots of novorapid. Currys are a nightmare. My last one needed 60 units of novorapid over 3 injections just to control my BS.

    Hope you are all having a nice naughty Christmas.

    Marty B
     
  18. dave102

    dave102 · Active Member

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    <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by SarahQ</i>
    <br />Dave there is no way on earth you should need that amount of rapid.
    It sounds to me as if you do not have enough insultard. With 40 units of rapid I would have to eat 400 carbs to cover it.
    Have you never learnt to adjust your own insulin acording to your blood sugar results? and what the carb content is for your meals?

    I have found that as I got older I could not cope on 2 injections/day so have neutral at lunch time as well and this works well for me. I just count the carb content of the meal and inject what ever is needed.
    If you have never been taught to adjust your own insulin your diabetes team needs shooting, you also need to learn for your self so you have a better quality of life.
    <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

    Hi Sarah
    I know the Actrapid units are high, but let me give you an example.
    This evening I took 40Act/22Ins. For dinner I had 4 roast spuds (2 cut in half, not particularly large) chicken + veg.
    That lasted me until 9.30pm when i had that magic figure of yours 3.9. I had to laugh when I saw the result. A choccy bikky dealt with the low BS.
    I'll be fine now until bedtime when I'll check the BS again, and if 5 or below I'll eat Weetabix.

    The Actrapid I find can take anything up to 2 hrs to take affect. If I only took 30 units it wouldn't cope with a meal of any carbos.
    I really don't know why this is happening. It never used to be like this.

    kind regards
    Dave
     
  19. johnoswaldallan

    johnoswaldallan · Active Member

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    Hi Dave
    My hypo warning signs are none existent. I get slight blurring of vision and if I don’t react to it quickly I have problems, so I test very regularly. I always without fail test before I drive. I achieved my current blood sugars levels (which are the best I’ve had in years) by basically ignoring the advice from the health care professionals and Diabetes UK. I personally am very intolerant of carbohydrates; I need 2.4 units of insulin to cope with 1 gram of carb, which is a terrible ratio. So if I were to have a 30-gram snack like a cake or doughnut I would need to inject at least another 60 units of insulin. So I have cut my carbs down to about 50 grams per day and eat good servings of meat complete with fat, have only vegetables with either no carbs or very little carb. I don’t feel constantly hungry any more and needles to say feel a whole lot better generally. The diet I find is really enjoyable I use low carb bread that I buy online; I substitute potatoes for celeriac and find it’s quite easy to work out. I am going to try and cut my carb intake down to about 30 per day. A site that I found very helpful is http://www.second-opinions.co.uk run by a guy called Barry Groves. Hope you had a good Christmas and I wish you a Happy new year. If there is anything else you want to know please don’t hesitate to contact me.


    JOA
     
  20. katfish75

    katfish75 · Newbie

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    5ft 7 and 10 stone 10, diagnosed as type 1 3 years ago, and re diagnosed 3 weeks ago as a type 2

    I take 22 lantus and was on 2 units of novorapid (with 5o grams of carbs for breakfast) and 3 units for lunch (with 60 grams of carbs) and none for evening meal as I have no carbs. Had really good control until 2 weeks ago when they put me on gliclazide because they now think I am a type 2 instead of a type 1, now my levels are all over the place, high in the day, hypos at night, anyone have any advice on changing over??

    Thanks, Kat
     
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