wasim4545
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I not have a any clue why diabetes deases spread so rapidly .Can any body tell what is the reason behind this?
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why diabetes spread so rapidly
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Andy12345
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huh? do you mean why is there such a rise in the number of people being diagnosed with diabetes nowadays? the rise in obese people due to our modern diet seems to be a major factor but im no expert 
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wasim4545 said:
My own personal opinion is that type 2 diabetes is a consequence of modern day living where not enough time is devoted to preparing food by use of raw ingredients and there is too much reliance on highly processed foods. In addition, many people consume ready meals which are equally highly processed. Time and money is at the heart of the matter. Bread, for example, is a food that tastes better, lasts longer and is more nutritious if it uses whole grains and is given time to prove. What does the baking industry do? It invented the 'No Time Process', less than 3 hours from mixing to slicing and packaging. Highly processed flours where nutritional value is lost in high speed steel roller mills which run too hot, steam injection to cause the bread to rise and flash toasting to give a crust and water added to bring the loaf upto legal weight. And it's got worse since the days the Chorleywood Process was invented. Today if you eat chicken nuggets, you may as well be eating wallpaper paste. To add taste, provide body and give the foods a satisfying bite, add huge quantities of fat and/or sugar.
Plus good marketing which encourages you to buy a large portion of rubbish because it is better value than buying a small portion of rubbish.
Plus schools gave up teaching the kids how to prepare food from scratch a long time ago and taught them to use packets and tins.
People need to slow down.
Real Bread Campaign
http://www.sustainweb.org/realbread
Slow Food Campaign
http://www.slowfood.org.uk
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Another personal opinion.
Some foods cause a rapid rise and a large increase in blood sugar levels. This is often referred to as a spike because if you drew a graph of it against time it would look like a spike. The excessive amount of sugar damages organs and/or gets stored as fat.
One spike may not do much harm but if you keep doing it then the damage accumulates and all organs suffer including the pancreas so the result could be diabetes, retinopathy, amputation of extremities and so on ...........
Sugar, flour, rice and potatoes are held out as the cause of this problem but as everyone knows it didn't used to be a problem.
The glycemic index of foods can be altered by what is eaten with them and fat is one of the things that can lower the GI substantially. The food industry has been methodically removing fat from food on advice from the experts and so a lot of spiky food has entered the food chain.
The reason for low fat foods is to protect us from cholesterol. The World Health Organisation has produced a chart compiled from stats from 168 countries which seems to show that all other things being equal more people die with low cholesterol than high. The Australian Aborigines have it worst and never make high cholesterol or old bones.
There is a Dr. Kendrick who set himself the task of reviewing the research done into cholesterol. To date he has not found it and he says it does not exist. Views are slowly changing about cholesterol.
Recently I have been baking bread and putting lard in the mix. I can now eat bread (one slice) and butter again. More experimentation is needed.
Some foods cause a rapid rise and a large increase in blood sugar levels. This is often referred to as a spike because if you drew a graph of it against time it would look like a spike. The excessive amount of sugar damages organs and/or gets stored as fat.
One spike may not do much harm but if you keep doing it then the damage accumulates and all organs suffer including the pancreas so the result could be diabetes, retinopathy, amputation of extremities and so on ...........
Sugar, flour, rice and potatoes are held out as the cause of this problem but as everyone knows it didn't used to be a problem.
The glycemic index of foods can be altered by what is eaten with them and fat is one of the things that can lower the GI substantially. The food industry has been methodically removing fat from food on advice from the experts and so a lot of spiky food has entered the food chain.
The reason for low fat foods is to protect us from cholesterol. The World Health Organisation has produced a chart compiled from stats from 168 countries which seems to show that all other things being equal more people die with low cholesterol than high. The Australian Aborigines have it worst and never make high cholesterol or old bones.
There is a Dr. Kendrick who set himself the task of reviewing the research done into cholesterol. To date he has not found it and he says it does not exist. Views are slowly changing about cholesterol.
Recently I have been baking bread and putting lard in the mix. I can now eat bread (one slice) and butter again. More experimentation is needed.
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I personally dont think that the processed food argument stacks up simply because if it were true then there would be a hell of a lot more diabetics plus of course it isnt just obese people who develop diabetes. Thats not to say I believe that eating processed foods all the time is a good idea, I dont, but neither do I believe that that is the main cause of diabetes.
If I had to pin the increase of diabetes on one or two things they would be the levels of stress that we are now living under and the increased levels of pollution that we now breath in every day due in no small part to the increase of motor cars, no longer do we have jobs for life and we live in a time of the highest levels of pollution too, every time they widen roads like the M25 they are instantly full of carbon imitating petrol and diesel engines, some would say that our air is cleaner now than years ago when we had smog due to the burning of fossil fuels but in fact whilst the air may be cleaner in some areas looking at the world as a whole it is mow pouted now than at any time.
So stress and pollution two things that are known to lead to all sorts of ills are both the highest we the human race have ever lived under.
And just to qualify what I mean by stress I'm not talking about the stress we associate with the loss of a loved one or the breakdown of a relationship but the stress we see and have to deal with in our every day lives, the amount of cars on the roads today has been proven to increase bp, more and more people are finding themselves looking forward to a reduced pension, many are worried about their jobs, drugs and violence are at an all time high so more and more parents are worried constantly about their childrens future and well being. How many young adults now leave school, college or uni and find that they cant find any work? That never happened in my youth they were jobs for everyone, in fact if you cared to you could walk out of a job in the morning and by the evening have been offered two others. Times have changed both in the air wee breath and the futures that our children can look forward to.
We may not feel that we are under more stress now than our forefathers were but the reality is that we are in so many subtle ways.
Anyway that would be my best guess for the increasing levels of both T2 and T1 diabetes.
If I had to pin the increase of diabetes on one or two things they would be the levels of stress that we are now living under and the increased levels of pollution that we now breath in every day due in no small part to the increase of motor cars, no longer do we have jobs for life and we live in a time of the highest levels of pollution too, every time they widen roads like the M25 they are instantly full of carbon imitating petrol and diesel engines, some would say that our air is cleaner now than years ago when we had smog due to the burning of fossil fuels but in fact whilst the air may be cleaner in some areas looking at the world as a whole it is mow pouted now than at any time.
So stress and pollution two things that are known to lead to all sorts of ills are both the highest we the human race have ever lived under.
And just to qualify what I mean by stress I'm not talking about the stress we associate with the loss of a loved one or the breakdown of a relationship but the stress we see and have to deal with in our every day lives, the amount of cars on the roads today has been proven to increase bp, more and more people are finding themselves looking forward to a reduced pension, many are worried about their jobs, drugs and violence are at an all time high so more and more parents are worried constantly about their childrens future and well being. How many young adults now leave school, college or uni and find that they cant find any work? That never happened in my youth they were jobs for everyone, in fact if you cared to you could walk out of a job in the morning and by the evening have been offered two others. Times have changed both in the air wee breath and the futures that our children can look forward to.
We may not feel that we are under more stress now than our forefathers were but the reality is that we are in so many subtle ways.
Anyway that would be my best guess for the increasing levels of both T2 and T1 diabetes.
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If stress and pollution were causes, then there would be many more thin people affected by diabetes as they are subject to the same. It is much more likely to be caused by the way food is metabolised and the degree of refinement results in absorbtion which may be too fast to cope with for some people. As an analogy, people need oxygen to live but breathing pure oxygen can be toxic. We need it to around 20% to avoid damaging our cells. We don't know why someone with 5% fatty deposition in the pancreas can have diabetes whereas someone else with 10% may not but the simpler the carbohydrate, eg a monosacharide, the easier it is for it to be deposited as fat in the liver by the process of de novo lipogenesis. An excess in carbohydrate intake normally results in the deposition of fatty acids but highly refined carbohydrates can overload the process as conversion becomes too quick to be effectively metabolised.
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It is well recorded that people over eat when stressed, and I believe a major cause of obesity is linked to stress. Stress of all kinds, it could be stress over self image issues, we live in a time when we are bombarded with adverts featuring skinny models and millionaire lifestyles and this is what people now aspire to, it is only in the last 40 years or so that credit has been available and now what is the average credit? What £10,000, £40,000? Whats the average mortgage today? Few people owned their own homes until relatively recently.
Everything in the modern world creates stress of one sort or another and stress can lead to obesity. How many times have you heard people say I am a comfort eater? or read that "I know I am fat and I hate myself so I eat more, I get fatter and feel a failure so I eat more and so the circle continues. So stress far from making people thin can and does have the opposite effect, remember I said I am not talking about obvious stress here like bereavement or divorce but the stress of everyday living.
And pollution is well known to cause all sorts of medical problems including cancers and respiratory and autoimmune problems, so it is just as possible as processed foods. I have never eaten much processed food yet I am diabetic, many people eat huge amounts of wheat products and processed foods and yet never develop diabetes!
Maybe stress and pollution can create a deadly combination that is causing the problems we see today, you cant deny that there are millions more motor cars today, where as 50 years ago very few people owned their own cars.
Anyway this thread asked for opinions and right or wrong thats mine
Everything in the modern world creates stress of one sort or another and stress can lead to obesity. How many times have you heard people say I am a comfort eater? or read that "I know I am fat and I hate myself so I eat more, I get fatter and feel a failure so I eat more and so the circle continues. So stress far from making people thin can and does have the opposite effect, remember I said I am not talking about obvious stress here like bereavement or divorce but the stress of everyday living.
And pollution is well known to cause all sorts of medical problems including cancers and respiratory and autoimmune problems, so it is just as possible as processed foods. I have never eaten much processed food yet I am diabetic, many people eat huge amounts of wheat products and processed foods and yet never develop diabetes!
Maybe stress and pollution can create a deadly combination that is causing the problems we see today, you cant deny that there are millions more motor cars today, where as 50 years ago very few people owned their own cars.
Anyway this thread asked for opinions and right or wrong thats mine
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Sid Bonkers said:
OK, I only differ in so far as I would say that it is the food that causes the diabetes whereas you appear to be asking the question why do they eat so much of the wrong stuff in the first place. It's worth remembering though that six of the top ten nations for diabetes are Kuwait, Lebanon, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates and the top nation is the Pacific Island of Nauru. In all these cases poor nutrition and decreased physical activity are cited.
