What chemicals are used to keep Brazil nuts fresh? How do you know that it is the chemicals that are the problem rather than the Brazil nuts themselves?
We changed her diet slightly to a lower carb one and that has sorted her out... we have completely cut out cereal and milk and replaced with natural yogurt and berries and omlette for breakfast, i think she feels more grown up having berry tea instead of milk... so all round positive result... i am just glad i found the low carb diet and this website... all the info from nhs is useless! However i dont think the op likes the responses as hasnt answered for a long time.@busydiabeticmum Sorry to read about your daughter. Good that she has you looking out for her though x
Wow.... ditto... and hit the nail on the head... explained it perfectly well done... just hope the op listened.Dreadful OP, dreadful poll, dreadful attitude, very condescending.
When I was diagnosed I was given a booklet. I read it and then threw it out. I already knew that some of the guidelines in it were harmful and had helped me on my way to T2, yet I had only been diagnosed 5 minutes and this booklet had been produced by Diabetes UK! So I set about treating my own condition myself and finding the diet that was right for me. I stumbled on LCHF myself without realising others were following it until I joined this forum 2 years after diagnosis.
The question I would like to ask is why do 'diabetes educators' fail to listen to their patients? Why do they assume that because the patient isn't controlling their BG's well that it's the patient's lack of compliance with the diet that is the problem. Errrr no... maybe it's the diet that is being pushed which is wrong! Can you imagine what it is like to follow a diet to the letter and then be told that you can't possibly be following it properly because the diet isn't working?
Because they assume you are following THEIR diet, thus the people who arent and are getting bad bg results are accused of being non compliant!!!Zand hit on a good point that has narked me all my diabetic life..
Why don't the health professionals including NICE, CCGs and Docs etc..
"Why can't they learn off the diabetics that are getting good results and better health?"
Only one superb consultant and nurses in MK hospital asked me. Nobody else has ever given a monkey how I ate or got my good hba1c results...
I think you are missing an "in my opinion" there.
But anyway.. I would say that as the NHS dietary regime is "in my opinion" **** then I am glad plenty of people (a lot of them here) fail to follow it. The Eatwell plate has been advocated by the NHS for ages as the Type 2 epidemic gets worse.
I would also take you to task a bit about the glycemic index part f your statement but as I am an Extreme Low Carb High Fat advocate I have never bothered to try it as I have found a way of eating that works very well for me.
Also a quick note on statistics if 30% of all obese people have Type 2 then that is far from a majority also if 85% of Type 2 diabetics are also overweight then you cannot draw any conclusions as 70% of the obese do not have Type 2 and 15% of Type 2's aren't overweight. So I'm afraid it is very possible to talk about Type 2 without addressing obesity.
I realise this may not sound like a nice reply but I'm afraid you have struck a nerve with me and I fear plenty of my fellow Type 2's who use this site to give support and help rather than be judgemental.
Regards
Mark
I'm not sure that the majority do fail to follow it. In the UK dieticians will suggest foods to fit in with family meals and favourites. This is free.
Hi Mark,
As a researcher, I have no opinion, and I usually quote resources. However, I do have an opinion when it comes to my own battle with T2DM. No one is judging, Mark, and I apologize if this was construed in such a manner. I am asking for opinions, because I am wondering why we as diabetics have such a hard time making all this work in our favor! You gave me one of the most common answers, that the diet plan was ineffective because it is "****."
I agree 100% with you about the out-of-the-can dietary regimen of the ADA and the NHS. They do have good intentions, but people are so different, that not all can or will follow these plans. I approach the dietary plan with my patients in an entirely different manner and start by asking what they like and what they hate regarding food. I construct a personalized dietary plan based on the foods they love. I also ask that, if there is a family involved, that the family become involved in making a change in their diet so that other family members may benefit from a more healthy approach to eating. No body feels hungry or left out. I spend at a minimum 5 hours the first week with the patient when they are first diagnosed, and the support team provides a multitude of services to support change. Dietary change is a major change in a person's life, as you already know, and it takes more than a pamphlet on diet and a prescription to acquire a healthy change.
These stats are from a reputable resources. What is not mentioned is that 60% of the obese most likely have a prediabetic state with 30% already with T2DM. As I have said as well, it is impossible to talk about diabetes without addressing obesity.
Mark, my goodness, if your diet works, then that is great. Isn't that what we all are trying to achieve.
God's speed
Dona
Given that 80% of overweight/obese people are not diabetic, isn't your focus a little narrow?
Perhaps the inability to stick to a sensible eating regime has nothing to do with being diabetic; it is just that unfortunately 20% of the overweight/obese go on to develop T2 Diabetes.
I know that it isn't that simple, and that insulin imbalances can make it very hard to lose weight whatever the diet and exercise regime, but I would be interested to know if dietary compliance is better, worse, or average between diabetics and non-diabetics.
Because they assume you are following THEIR diet, thus the people who arent and are getting bad bg results are accused of being non compliant!!!
I'm not sure that the majority do fail to follow it. In the UK dieticians will suggest foods to fit in with family meals and favourites. This is free.
Or the average human!!
Given that this is primarily a UK based forum (we do have some members from the US) you need to be aware of the fact that we get some forum members reporting that they've received little or no dietary advice.
I also think that more often than not, any failure to adhere to a diet will be the result of more than just one of your possible responses.
Ms. Donnelly...Love your photo!
I have over 20 years experience in diabetes education, 42 years in advanced nutrition and critical care nursing. I am very happy to learn from any and every person or patient, and I realize that none of us have the key to success in treatment, however, we still can learn from one another.
You are correct that many of these diets are unhealthy. As an example, It is very unhealthy to cut carbs lower than 130 grams a day. Without knowing that carbs are essential in brain metabolism, energy and immunity, many have cut carbs down so much that they becomes depressed or physically ill. Dietary requirements are individual and should be fulfilled when creating a plan with the patient.
I can't vote because I would have to tick most of those boxes.
I would like to know what you mean by compliance. Which type of diet is not complied with? Which foods do the non-compliers eat?
Sadly, in the UK at least, the dietary advice given to type 2 diabetics is nothing short of criminal. I would happily have complied with the advice given to me - basically cut out sugar, have carbs at every meal, a jacket potato with a tin of baked beans is an excellent lunch because of the glycaemic load and so on and so forth. Compliance with this advice is of no help to any T2 and those "in the know" will not comply with it.
Oh dear, you have a lot to learn about brain metabolism, energy and immunity. Fats do a better job than carbs in these respects. You say you are a researcher, so I humbly suggest you do some research on ketogenic diets.
Well Dona the diet that works for me has virtually no carbohydrate in it so it sounds as if you think I am depressed or physically ill of which I am neither. I think you need to educate yourself a bit more before you give people incorrect dietary advice. Until I read your response above I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt but after that I'm afraid you are wrong (in my opinion).Ms. Donnelly...Love your photo!
I have over 20 years experience in diabetes education, 42 years in advanced nutrition and critical care nursing. I am very happy to learn from any and every person or patient, and I realize that none of us have the key to success in treatment, however, we still can learn from one another.
You are correct that many of these diets are unhealthy. As an example, It is very unhealthy to cut carbs lower than 130 grams a day. Without knowing that carbs are essential in brain metabolism, energy and immunity, many have cut carbs down so much that they becomes depressed or physically ill. Dietary requirements are individual and should be fulfilled when creating a plan with the patient.
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