heinemenusch
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I'm referring to the front page, the editor's pick relating to cannabis. Reporting news is one thing but ths seems rather biased.
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Why is db uk promoting illegal drug use?
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LittleWolf
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Cannabis really shouldn't be illegal.
Opioid painkillers are basically heroin but legal, despite being addictive, narcotic and dangerous
There is no bias; DUK and the scientific community along with the medical field look at the facts, not stigma, and credit what merits cannabis does have.
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Opioid painkillers are basically heroin but legal, despite being addictive, narcotic and dangerous
There is no bias; DUK and the scientific community along with the medical field look at the facts, not stigma, and credit what merits cannabis does have.
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I haven't taken part in the cannabis debate but I know that the medicinal or therapeutic use of cannabis is discussed in many health circles, MS being one where sufferers report relief of symptoms.
I see no evidence of this forum 'promoting illegal drugs'. Discussing the matter openly, whether for medicinal or even recreational use does not mean the same thing as 'promoting' by any means. All people are doing is talking freely and openly on a topic which some people may find in discordance with their moral compass, but that doesn't mean there should be a ban on discussion or debate.
Personally, I don't use cannabis but I accept that many people do, and as far as I'm concerned its their choice, preferably an informed choice—which is why I believe that the matter, along with many other 'taboo' subjects should be discussed openly.
As LW rightly pointed out, there are risks associated with many substances, legal and illegal. It's far better that people are aware of these risks (as well as potential benefits) rather than keeping everything hush hush for fear of corrupting the moral fabric of the nation.
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I see no evidence of this forum 'promoting illegal drugs'. Discussing the matter openly, whether for medicinal or even recreational use does not mean the same thing as 'promoting' by any means. All people are doing is talking freely and openly on a topic which some people may find in discordance with their moral compass, but that doesn't mean there should be a ban on discussion or debate.
Personally, I don't use cannabis but I accept that many people do, and as far as I'm concerned its their choice, preferably an informed choice—which is why I believe that the matter, along with many other 'taboo' subjects should be discussed openly.
As LW rightly pointed out, there are risks associated with many substances, legal and illegal. It's far better that people are aware of these risks (as well as potential benefits) rather than keeping everything hush hush for fear of corrupting the moral fabric of the nation.
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martwolves
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I'm not replying to that thread ever again - or this.
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LittleWolf said:
Opiate pain killers are not basically heroin. And they act in a totally different way.
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We are single-minded?
Look at the facts, Mart. It's not just us input fantasy world that think this drug does wonders, hence the multitude of studies,pushes to reinstate it as a medicine and the DUK article. Did we write the article? No. Did we bias the studies proving reductions in pain, blood pressure, insulin resistance, tumor size etc? No. It is what it is and no one is trying to make you use cannabis. You are an adult and can make your own decisions. You totalled your car? That is cannabis' fault? We should enforce alcohol prohibition again because of the thousands that die from ingesting it not just on the roads with it. That makes sense, right?
We are in a 'vegetative state' you say? YOU are the one making this personal and holding grudges. It helps no one. Especially as you have enough at home to be stressed about which I am sorry for.
Whereas this plant can and has helped millions. Continue drinking your poison. If you call cannabis a poison you have to remember that the body really does treat alcohol as a toxin. If you can responsibly drink poison that does nothing good for you, we can use a plant that is in harmony with the body's natural endocannabinoid system. Yes, the chemicals in cannabis are identical to those produced in the human body regulating immunity and metabolic processes.
This plant Saved My Life. If you think I am a lesser being for using a drug that brought me out of depression and anorexia then I bloody well will take it personally. Perhaps you should get back to your family. What upsets you so much about other people managing to use this drug responsibly and to positive effect? Does it upset you that MS patients feel better? That not everybody wants to take laboratory drugs? Or is it because you did something silly whilst using it?
My father is the same. He had no self control and screwed up in life because of HIM not the cannabis. Passing the buck is an admission of weakness and to be fair, I will say addiction to legal painkillers etc is just as much the fault of the individual.
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Look at the facts, Mart. It's not just us input fantasy world that think this drug does wonders, hence the multitude of studies,pushes to reinstate it as a medicine and the DUK article. Did we write the article? No. Did we bias the studies proving reductions in pain, blood pressure, insulin resistance, tumor size etc? No. It is what it is and no one is trying to make you use cannabis. You are an adult and can make your own decisions. You totalled your car? That is cannabis' fault? We should enforce alcohol prohibition again because of the thousands that die from ingesting it not just on the roads with it. That makes sense, right?
We are in a 'vegetative state' you say? YOU are the one making this personal and holding grudges. It helps no one. Especially as you have enough at home to be stressed about which I am sorry for.
Whereas this plant can and has helped millions. Continue drinking your poison. If you call cannabis a poison you have to remember that the body really does treat alcohol as a toxin. If you can responsibly drink poison that does nothing good for you, we can use a plant that is in harmony with the body's natural endocannabinoid system. Yes, the chemicals in cannabis are identical to those produced in the human body regulating immunity and metabolic processes.
This plant Saved My Life. If you think I am a lesser being for using a drug that brought me out of depression and anorexia then I bloody well will take it personally. Perhaps you should get back to your family. What upsets you so much about other people managing to use this drug responsibly and to positive effect? Does it upset you that MS patients feel better? That not everybody wants to take laboratory drugs? Or is it because you did something silly whilst using it?
My father is the same. He had no self control and screwed up in life because of HIM not the cannabis. Passing the buck is an admission of weakness and to be fair, I will say addiction to legal painkillers etc is just as much the fault of the individual.
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LittleWolf
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Sid you are exceptional in using those drugs in a responsible way. I appreciate that was a very loose statement, but wanted to make a point without getting a chemistry textbook out lol
But it still concerns me how many people recreationally abuse and get addicted to those painkillers because it gives them the same buzz as heroin, then go on to buying street heroin. They can have very immediate and dangerous side effects as you probably know already, but I cannot fathom how they are prescribed like candy when cannabis is treated like the plague.
You clearly need those drugs and they do have a place used responsibly, but it is a total CRISIS the amount of opiate painkiller abusers, who may have started out legitimately prescribed and the amount of people who die using them. Like I keep saying they caused a massive bleed in my GI tract and my dad became a monster hooked on them after he broke his arm.
However, there is absolutely nothing wrong with you using them legitimately to manage the huge amount of pain you must be in and for that I'm really sorry you're suffering xx
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But it still concerns me how many people recreationally abuse and get addicted to those painkillers because it gives them the same buzz as heroin, then go on to buying street heroin. They can have very immediate and dangerous side effects as you probably know already, but I cannot fathom how they are prescribed like candy when cannabis is treated like the plague.
You clearly need those drugs and they do have a place used responsibly, but it is a total CRISIS the amount of opiate painkiller abusers, who may have started out legitimately prescribed and the amount of people who die using them. Like I keep saying they caused a massive bleed in my GI tract and my dad became a monster hooked on them after he broke his arm.
However, there is absolutely nothing wrong with you using them legitimately to manage the huge amount of pain you must be in and for that I'm really sorry you're suffering xx
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