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Why scientists so far can not find a comprehensive solution for diabetes

Guzzler said:
The problem for those of us with T2 (in general) is not with the insulin per se, it is the insulin resistance resulting in hyperinsulinaemia.
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If patients with type 2 diabetes have a surplus of insulin why it does not work While the newly created insulin works efficiently why
I Know why you will say insulin resistance why not resist external insulin as well
 
HICHAM_T2 said:
If patients with type 2 diabetes have a surplus of insulin why it does not work While the newly created insulin works efficiently why
I Know why you will say insulin resistance why not resist external insulin as well
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Type 1 Diabetes and Type 2 Diabetes are very, very different conditions. Generally speaking T2 suffer with insulin resistance leading to too much insulin in the body. For those with T1 it is a total absence of insulin that is the problem.
 
Guzzler said:
The problem for those of us with T2 (in general) is not with the insulin per se, it is the insulin resistance resulting in hyperinsulinaemia.
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Could be. I have my results. Anyone with T2 can try my method. There are thousands who benefited from it.
 
HemantG said:
Could be. I have my results. Anyone with T2 can try my method. There are thousands who benefited from it.
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The OP is on why there are as yet no cures for T1 or T2. We arn't really talking about management at the moment.
 
Guzzler said:
Type 1 Diabetes and Type 2 Diabetes are very, very different conditions. Generally speaking T2 suffer with insulin resistance leading to too much insulin in the body. For those with T1 it is a total absence of insulin that is the problem.
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I know but So why all patients here i mean my country type II they are using insulin if they has a alot of insulin Especially if they problem is with insulin resistance
 
HICHAM_T2 said:
I know but So why all patients here i mean my country type II they are using insulin if they has a alot of insulin Especially if they problem is with insulin resistance
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That, my freind, is a great question. Doctors treat hyperinsulinaemia with more insulin? Some would call that crazy. The reason they do it is because high blood glucose levels are dangerous and because the message about lifestyle choices has not filtered through to mainstream medicine yet.
 
Guzzler said:
That, my freind, is a great question. Doctors treat hyperinsulinaemia with more insulin? Some would call that crazy. The reason they do it is because high blood glucose levels are dangerous and because the message about lifestyle choices has not filtered through to mainstream medicine yet.
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If there is one explanation If so, the patient will return to normal once blood sugar returns to normal This is contrary to the word that diabetes is a chronic disease
 
Scott-C said:
The book Breakthrough...by Thea Cooper is an interesting read on Banting's motivation and background. She had access to original papers so it's fairly solid from a science point of view. She admits to taking a few artistic liberties with a few things re emotions etc in the sense of just making stuff up, but all in all, it's a good insight into the personalities of the main players, made more entertaining by the fact they all f'ing hated each other!
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Sounds like it ought to be a film! Gary Fetke (pop it into YouTube) is an Aussie orthopaedic surgeon who is pioneering low carb for his obese patients (many of whom are diabetic) and getting taken down by the dieticians for daring to reverse his patient's type 2 diabetes!
 
HICHAM_T2 said:
If patients with type 2 diabetes have a surplus of insulin why it does not work While the newly created insulin works efficiently why
I Know why you will say insulin resistance why not resist external insulin as well
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The answer is it doesn't work if your insulin resistant. Other than by throwing so much at it that it has a small effect. That was my experience at any rate.

They put me on insulin, it worked a bit (lowered my BG a bit) for a while then stopped working so upped the insulin, slight improvement for a while then stopped working. And the cycle continued.

Meanwhile I was going from hyper to hypo, piling on weight and mood swings depression etc...

Came off the insulin. Went low carb, lost weight and bloods have been the best that they have been for 11 years

DN is in denial and says it's a blip and I will definitely be back on insulin.
 
Guzzler said:
The problem for those of us with T2 (in general) is not with the insulin per se, it is the insulin resistance resulting in hyperinsulinaemia.
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But the insulin not used to counter the hyperglycaemia, will be stored by the liver as visceral fat.
Background insulin will help with weak initial response, that is why I have to eat small meals and very low carb to offset any carbs creating more glucose and later more insulin.
 
roblogan said:
The answer is it doesn't work if your insulin resistant. Other than by throwing so much at it that it has a small effect. That was my experience at any rate.

They put me on insulin, it worked a bit (lowered my BG a bit) for a while then stopped working so upped the insulin, slight improvement for a while then stopped working. And the cycle continued.

Meanwhile I was going from hyper to hypo, piling on weight and mood swings depression etc...

Came off the insulin. Went low carb, lost weight and bloods have been the best that they have been for 11 years

DN is in denial and says it's a blip and I will definitely be back on insulin.
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Is your fasting hba1c level normal?
Have you tested pre meal, one and two hours after eating?
You are getting what I call the rebound effect, every time you eat your body with or without the insulin is on a rollercoaster ride of fluctuating blood glucose levels.
You probably have hyperinsulinaemia, the spike is because of of a weak initial insulin response because of insulin resistance. Then the insulin you take or the excessive insulin in your blood will push it down to Hypoglycaemia. Then you have to treat the hypo, you spike, the insulin drives it down, you treat or eat, you spike, insulin and so on. The symptoms you describe are typical of uncontrolled blood glucose levels.
 
Lamont D said:
But the insulin not used to counter the hyperglycaemia, will be stored by the liver as visceral fat.
Background insulin will help with weak initial response, that is why I have to eat small meals and very low carb to offset any carbs creating more glucose and later more insulin.
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Could you rephrase that, please. Excess insulin would be stored by the liver in the viscera?
 
As I understand it, excess insulin leads to fat, hence fatty liver. This is visceral fat. It gradually effects all organs and weight gain is because of insulin.
Too many carbs and insulin resistance is a precursor to obesity, prediabetes and then diabetes. Hyperinsulinaemia can be found years before hyperglycaemia and T2 diabetes.

If I'm wrong, hey ho!
 
Lamont D said:
As I understand it, excess insulin leads to fat, hence fatty liver. This is visceral fat. It gradually effects all organs and weight gain is because of insulin.
Too many carbs and insulin resistance is a precursor to obesity, prediabetes and then diabetes. Hyperinsulinaemia can be found years before hyperglycaemia and T2 diabetes.

If I'm wrong, hey ho!
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I think you may mean excess carbohydrates which can lead to weight gain because glucose levels are too high (above the levels at which glycogen can be stored in the liver and muscle tissue - which isn't much) so to store glucose the body turns it into fat (de novolipogenesis) and stores it in the viscera to begin with then as ectopic fat in and around the organs.
 
roblogan said:
The answer is it doesn't work if your insulin resistant. Other than by throwing so much at it that it has a small effect. That was my experience at any rate.

They put me on insulin, it worked a bit (lowered my BG a bit) for a while then stopped working so upped the insulin, slight improvement for a while then stopped working. And the cycle continued.

Meanwhile I was going from hyper to hypo, piling on weight and mood swings depression etc...

Came off the insulin. Went low carb, lost weight and bloods have been the best that they have been for 11 years

DN is in denial and says it's a blip and I will definitely be back on insulin.
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Hi, Did you mean the use of external insulin for patients Type II diabetes is a waste of time and that diet style is the solution
 
HICHAM_T2 said:
Hi, Did you mean the use of external insulin for patients Type II diabetes is a waste of time and that diet style is the solution
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Some Type 2's don't produce enough insulin because their pancreas is damaged/worn out. For them there is no alternative but to inject it.
 
Mr_Pot said:
Some Type 2's don't produce enough insulin because their pancreas is damaged/worn out. For them there is no alternative but to inject it.
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I think you mean type 1.5 LADA but this is Different between type 2
 
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