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lewisandjake2

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Hello all, First time on this site. Have been diagnosed type 2 for 5 years and taking various forms of tablets mostly gliclazide and metformin and lately glucophage. The latter I was told was the strongest possible and after a year on that I have now been told I need to take insulin and have an appointment to disuss. Hand on heart I havn't stuck rigidly to diet as had traumatic year having lost business and home Does anyone think I could pull things back and try again with diet to win the battle. Last average readings was 15.5 and I have now started taking morning bloods with readings of 13 and 18 but this has only been three days after going back to proper regime. I really do not want to start insulin if I can avoid it. HELP!!
 
Glucophage is a brand name for metformin so I would hazard a guess you have been prescribed the SR version that is designed to be slow release. Those are often better for your gastric tract and being slow to give off the chemicals, often gives a smoother control.

As for your home testing readings, we need to know how long after food you are doing the tests ... also how long after rising from bed do you do the fasting test?

You say that you have stuck to the diet. Is this a diet sheet given to you by your GP or DN? All too often those diets are not a lot of help as they usually feed you with too much carbohydrate which is not a good base to start from.
 
Welcome to the Forum LandJ,

It is possible to bring your blood glucose levels down by watching your diet and specifically your intake of carbohydrate. This may help you put off being put on Insulin.

Here is our basic guide for new Diabetes, I know you are not new but sometimes it helps to go back to the basics and start again. See if the info here is the same as the diet sheet you were given.

Here is the advice we usually give to newly diagnosed diabetics. We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.

It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.

This is NOT a low carb diet suggestion, just a reduction in your intake of carbohydrate. You have to decide yourself how much of a reduction will keep your blood glucose levels in control.

The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.

If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.

The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.

Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.

When you are buying products check the total carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a diabetic.


As for a tester, try asking the nurse/doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work ! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try!!

If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.

The latest 2010 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l........(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals......no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)

2hrs after meals....... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)

If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.

It also helps if you can do 30 minutes moderate exercise a day. It doesn't have to be strenuous.

The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.

Sue/Ken.
 
Thanks for the replies so quickly

The list for diet help was one of the first items I looked at on the forum and I am completey flumoxed by it all as the hospital dietician had told me to eat carbs as they are slow release and would help me. My sister too had a bad time controlling her diabetes (type 1 ) as was given conflicting info from hospital although she is well in control now after years of trying. Putting on weight is my greatest fear. I will try with this method and let you know. I take my morning bloods after two coffees and before taking medication, is this rright or do I do it firs thing before drinks. I have taken them about an hour after medication and two slices of toast . for instance, and there is no change so I will try them now after eating something low carb, Thanks for all the advise its good to speak to like people and I now know I have to start giving me time to sort this out. Will keep you posted.
 
The diet advice that the Dietician give may be fine for people on Insulin and some other Diabetic drugs but not for people on diet only or Metformin for instance.

Members on here are all experienced Diabetics and have found that the standard 'one size fits all' advice from NHS just does not work for everyone. It needs to be tailored to fit the individual.

Testing.
You should test immediately you get up, before you do anything or eat and drink anything. Testing during the day should again be just before a meal then two hours after to see how the food you ate has affected your blood sugar levels. If you eat foods that have a high fat content or starchy slow acting carbs then you may need to test at three or even four hours etc after the meal as they take longer to be absorbed.
 
hya and welcome,
i would see your g.p and ask whether there is a chance you could have type 1 or 1.5 if there has been a lot of difficulty controlling you, only asking as it happened to a friend of mine and her sister too had type 1? maybe worth a mention :D
 
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