Would you prefer to be on insulin injections or on a pump?

Riri

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Re: Would you prefer to be on insulin injections or on a pum

At the moment i have mixed feelings. I was fitted with a pump last November and it was great up until about 2-3 months ago. My sugars have now gone back to being high and erratic and I'm finding it just as difficult to control my diabetes with a pump as I did on injections. This is my honest answer today because I'm fed up of not being able to control my sugars. I'm told its more than likely because my body/hormones are changing with my age.
I guess life would have been much harder on injections but this is how I feel right now - pretty low, frustrated and peed off.
Hopefully things will improve and I will then start realising the benefits of my pump once again - deep down I do understand how much more flexibility and control it offers.
 

rosief

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I was on multiple injections of insulin for 15 years and my tolerance got worse and worse I was having severe hypos twice weekly and ending up in hospital regulalrly My HBa1C was 7 Control was said to be good My life style was awful!! I am now on a pump and have had 1 bad hypo in 18 months when I needed medical assistance and 3 or 4 hypos when family had to help Much much better Pumps s win every time


Rosie Featherstone
 

micksmixxx

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Re: Would you prefer to be on insulin injections or on a pum

I very much prefer to be using a CSII (Continuous Subcutaneous Insulin Infusion) ... or pump. I've been using one since December 1998.

Prior to being granted a pump I was taking 7, 8, 9 injections a day, purposely to keep my blood sugar (glucose) levels anywhere near 'normal', and still it wasn't working. I used to spend more time in hospital than I was spending at home.

The freedom offered by using a pump is phenomenal. You eat when you want to, and as much or as little as you want to, and infuse the amount of insulin that you need to cover the amount of carbohydrates that you've taken in. If you feel like taking an extra snack, or going out for a meal, that's no different. You just count the carbohydrates and infuse the correct dose of insulin to cover it.

Rather than having multiple daily injections (MDI), it's like having one injection every 2 or 3 days.

There are, of course, downsides. You need to check your blood glucose levels more frequently. This is because pumps only use fast-acting or rapid-acting insulins. This means that you have no basal type insulin, such as Levemir (insulin Detemir) or Lantus (insulin Glargine) to keep your blood glucose on an 'even keel'. You have to depend on your pump continuing to function and deliver the tiny amounts of insulin that you have programmed into the machine all of the time. If the cannula should become detached from your body, a twist in the delivery tube, or a collection of 'matter' at the delivery site, your blood glucose level could very quickly reach heights that cause you problems. For this reason it pays to wake up during the night to check your blood glucose levels. I'm sure no-one wants to get up the following morning feel totally 'washed out' because of hyperglycaemia.

Some people MAY, initially, feel the intrusion of having to wear a pump 24 hours a day a bit off-putting. This is something that DOES pass. In fact, I'd feel that something was missing if I didn't have my trusty companion with me.

Another thing that MIGHT put people off is, what do I do with it? Where do I place it? What about bathing/showering or going swimming? Where do I put it when I go to bed? These, to be frank ... so long as you don't mind me changing my name for a second ... are minor things. There are various cases, straps, clips, etc. that can be worn so that you can place the pump in many places about the body. Sleeping? Just leave it to roam around the bed, place it under your pillow, or clip it to pyjamas/nightwear. Showering or bathing? Pumps have a quick release system which allows you to detach the pump whilst you bathe, and then reconnect when you're done. Swimming? That MAY be a different thing ... dependent on the type of pump that you have. Some are waterproof, but others are not. Some pumps actually have no need for a delivery tube, they fit directly to the body, so there's no worries about catching the tube and pulling the cannula free.

I'll tell you what, if you want this pump back you can try and prise it from my dead or dying hands. I'm not letting it go for anyone. lol.

Although pumps, and the set changes ... insulin reservoir, delivery tube, cannula, etc. are expensive, we have this absolutely wonderful system in the UK, called the NHS (National Health Service), which pays for it all ... assuming, of course, that you get it on the NHS and not privately. There were 'problems' when I first started to use a pump with how it was going to be financed, but my consultant endocrinologist went out of his way to ensure that I'd be given the opportunity to prove it's worth. (He went to a local church organisation to see if they would help finance the set changes ... luckily for me, they didn't question my religious affiliations as I'm Pagan, and they MAY have objected. Shortly after, however, my local PCP (Primary Care Practice) deemed that they would be saving money in the long run as I wouldn't need to be admitted to hospital so frequently ... and they were right. They agreed to fund it. There'd have been no way on Earth that I'd have been able to finance it myself as I'd been retired on grounds of ill health from my last employment.)

I'm occasionally asked to speak with people, at my local diabetes centre, that are interested in going onto pump therapy, though the diabetes specialist nurses have now taken over this role more in recent months/years. I believe it helps to get an insider's view on the practicalities of using a pump, and hear how it's been for them.

Even now there are comparatively few people using pumps in my local area. I guess that funding MAY still be something that needs to be taken into consideration, even though NICE (The National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence) deems that pump technology should be available in cases where it is deemed necessary and/or worthwhile.

Take a read of the pages on the following website to get a clearer understanding of who is legible and what criteria must be met.

http://www.nice.org.uk/Search.do?x=0&y=0&searchText=pump&newsearch=true#/search/?reload

For anyone that's wishing to use pump technology, I wish you the very best of luck in gaining the opportunity.

Be well.

Lots of Love and Light.

Mick
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P.S. Please don't be offended or alarmed at the "x's". It's simply a logo, of sorts, that I've used for some 30-odd years now.
 

Scoop4

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Re: Would you prefer to be on insulin injections or on a pum

I am on a pump and have been for the last 5 years and I couldn't go back to injections. My HB1C was between 6 and 6.5 but I suffered with terrible hypos and needed to take such small amounts of insulin that's why I was put on it. I was nervious with the thought of having something attached to me all the time but it's just like when I was first diagnosed I couldn't imagine injecting 4 times a day, you get used to what you have to do to control your condition and a pump is easier. I have been put on a continuous glucose monitor attached to my pump I can see how good the artificial pancreas is going to be. The pump really is the future as it I only one needle every 3 days less bruising and no one complaining about you injecting in public.
 

rasik500

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I have been on pump for past 2 years and for me it pump for sure sugar level has been very steady given me freedom to eat what I like and when I like I am veggie so have large carb meals no problem with pump I have my pump on nhs and is fully funded very lucky in cambridge and educators are excellant Rasik
 
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Hi

I am mum to Luke aged 9 who was diagnosed with type 1 14 months ago. He uses daily multiple injections but has decided to go on a pump in August. We are waiting until the summer holidays as we have been told it takes a few weeks to get the hang of it so much better to do it when not at school. Luke does not mind having injections and injects himself but has frequent hypos, approx 5 a week because he is very sporty. His last HB was 6.4 so he has good control but I check his blood during the night because I am frightened he will drop too low. Apparently, the pump will cause less frequent hypos. We live in the Bristol area and it has been very easy to get NHS funding for the pump. Luke will be using the animas pump.

It is very unfair that getting the pump is dependant on what part of the country you live in. Diabetes is a chronic condition and everyone should be given the opportunity of having a pump if they wish.

Jacqui
 
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Can anyone tell me if you can use a continuous glucose monitoring device with an animas pump and if so, is the cgm free or do you have to fund it yourself.

from Mum to Luke aged 9 diagnosed type 1 fourteen months ago.
 

Scoop4

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Re: Would you prefer to be on insulin injections or on a pum

I don't know about the pump your son is will work with the CGM maybe you should talk to the diabetic nurse or consultant but i was told by my nurse that the CGM is not available on the NHS you must buy it and the accessories yourself. I am on the pump as I am like your son I can have continuous hypo all day.
 

Barrie Smith

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Re: Would you prefer to be on insulin injections or on a pum

Was offered one 2006 but without continuous blood monitoring very dangerous , plus the ever presence of big needles in abdomen also very dangerous if you`re active , daughter of a friend could not cope .
 

jopar

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Re: Would you prefer to be on insulin injections or on a pum

Barrie Smith said:
Was offered one 2006 but without continuous blood monitoring very dangerous , plus the ever presence of big needles in abdomen also very dangerous if you`re active , daughter of a friend could not cope .

I beg to differ, You are talking utter rubbish pumps and their needles are dangerous at all...

They don't need a CGM with them and not having one doesn't compromise the pumps safety, in fact CGM's work on lag time, so before you take any actions concerning any information the CGM gives you have to do a finger stick BG to double check the information is near accurate... And the CGM can be very inaccurate at times so really best used for pattern finding, and a rough guide to whether BG is going up or down or stable etc...

As to you claims about large needles being dangerious in the abdomen if active, is ludicrous and can only assume that you have never seen a the cannula as they are very small and very fine, they pose absolutely no dangers being in the abdomen at all active or not... I'm pretty active due to dog training and working with dogs, and very slim... So if as you said needles were large etc I think I might have come a cropper after 4 years on a pump
 

Scoop4

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Re: Would you prefer to be on insulin injections or on a pum

I also don't understand the needle part as yes there is a needle used to put the tube into your body but then the needle is removed so any activity shouldn't be a problem. Are there pumps out there where you keep needles inside you as an only comment on mine which doesn't. I agree about the CGM working on lag time this was not explained to me when I was being monitored on the CGM. I was very confused one night when i awoke in a hypo but the CGM was telling me I was ok took my blood sugar and it confirmed I was hypo CGM didn't catch up for a while.
 

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Re: Would you prefer to be on insulin injections or on a pum

I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 15 months ago and I'm on MDI. I was offered a pump by the endo at my hospital about 14 weeks after I was diagnosed but I said no. I'm not squeamish but the idea of a pump makes me feel physically sick as I see it as like being on a drip. Having a tube coming out of me (yes, I know about the OmniPod) would make me feel like I was dying. My HbA1c has stayed below 5.5% the last year so I don't see staying on MDI as a problem.
 

TallGirl

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Re: Would you prefer to be on insulin injections or on a pum

I'd love to go on a pump - really struggling with injections at the moment. I graze constantly food wise throughout the day so injecting the right amount is proving near impossible for me. My Hba1C was 78 at the start of May so there's plenty of room for improvement but my DN doesnt think I'll get a pump

I asked for a referral to a consultant in March, but heard nothing, so I asked again in May and I'm still waiting....
 

Scoop4

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Re: Would you prefer to be on insulin injections or on a pum

The thing is every one has a choice you need to go with what is best for you. I feel better on the pump to me iit just feels like any other new piece of equipment like my mobile phone, iPod this takes away some of the problems with being diabetic like bruising, injecting in public. I was once asked what I was listening to on my MP3 player when I was programming my pump(its very discreet). I don't know about any body else's pump but I am able to disconnect from it for up to an hour without to much of an effect on my sugars so I don't feel like I am constantly connected to my pump if I was to go swimming, bathe, or go in the shower. I just think of it as something like all my other toys that is making my life easier. I have been diabetic 17 years and had had enough of injection.
 
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I have had my pump since December 2010, and at first it was a bit strange, but I soon got used to it. the freedom of not having to inject, and the worry of constant hypo's has helped greatly. The pump is not easy at first, and does take a lot of work, but it certainly seems to reap the benefits. My hbac was good was 6, but I got one, if you feel it will make a difference to the quality of life, I say push for it. I am lucky as my hospital is very pro pump. Someone mentioned earlier about having a needle attached to you constantly, that isn't the case, its a cannula which you can't really feel, its soft and flexible, and you can exercise fine with it. I horse ride, swim, icestate, nothing stops me doing what I want. The only downside is wearing it all the time, but you soon forget about it, I would hate to go back to mdi, most people who get given one keep it. If you are lucky enough to get one, make the most of it I say.
 

Izzi

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Hi :) I have been on the pump for about 2 years now (just under), and I would never in a million years dream of going back on injections. For me, it was almost necessary because my hba1c was far too high. Now, over the past couple of years my hba1c has come right down, and although it doesn't seem great my most recent one was 7.6%. this was a great achievement as I have never in my 12 years of having diabetes had my hba1c come so low. (I am now 14). Of course, the pump does take some work and effort from you, and some getting used to, but my life is so much easier to live with diabetes now I am on a pump.
 

scottishbrian

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Re: Would you prefer to be on insulin injections or on a pum

I was put on the pump about 10 years ago, but had to quickly come off it.

For me, and my Hba1c results, it worked wonders! The nurses and doctors couldnt believe the drop in the results after being on it for only 3 months and we were all ecstatic!
Soon after tho, the pump broke without me realising and left me very unwell.. putting me in hospital for a week!! The doctors decided not to put me back on the pump... STUPID PEOPLE!!!
 

SophiaW

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Re: Would you prefer to be on insulin injections or on a pum

Barrie Smith - the needle does not stay inside you, it's used to insert a teflon (flexible) cannula and then the needle is immediately removed. There are steel cannulas (which my daughter uses) and that stays under your skin you but they are very small and once in cannot be felt. They pose no danger at all, I don't know where you got your information from but I'd have to say it is very inaccurate. The only danger a steel cannula may pose is if you go through an MRI scan and forget to remove the cannula first. CGM is not necessary with a pump and does not make pumping dangerous without it. You do need to finger prick several times a day to test blood glucose but then a person trying to manage their diabetes well with MDI would probably do several tests a day too.

Scottishbrian - how did the pump break without you realising it?
 

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Re: Would you prefer to be on insulin injections or on a pum

I hear good things about a pump but I like the idea of a jab because you can do it then get on with life. I do a lot of mountain biking and weight training. If I fall of my bike with a pump in it could be nasty.
 

Scoop4

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That's why you need to insure it. My pump is on my home insurance it's is what you do with expensive items in case they get broken. The pump would probably be good for you if you exercise that much it can be really fine tuned to your body.