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No no. I'm not trying to fall out with you or anyone. But disagreeing with you doesn't mean I'm wrong and should not tell my story because it basically disagrees with forum wisdom.
@mikej1973
I'm interested in the 5:2, how you spread your calories with 500g carbs and what you consider to be "active".....
Is that hauling in Tuna by the way?
OK, one final attempt to make myself clear.
Your findings appear to be contrary of the vast, vast majority of T2s I have observed coming through these forum doors. Whilst at the point of diagnosis guidance is usually sought, bearing in mind my earlier point, it's a shame the guidance doesn't suit the majority of people we encounter here. Obviously, the sample of all of the population we see coming through here may not be completely representative of the T2 diabetic population as a whole, the fact that most HCPs (in my experience and observation) believe T2 to be permanent and progressive must surely mean that what they evidence is a progressive disease which is permanent. That suggests to me that, provided people are following the guidance they are given, that the guidance is not, in the vast majority of cases, returning the positive results we sometimes see here.
So, for me, it seems a shame that where any guidance is likely to effective at best for 80/20, or 90/10 of the population to whom it is delivered, the guidance doesn't return the most positive outcome to the higher proportion of its recipients.
Many people. Maybe not everyone.The NHS advice leads people into diabetes......
He did have a HbA1c of 60 before the OGTT so at one point he actually was diabetic. Apparently this was due to eating huge amounts of sugar, if I have understood his posts correctly. Since he has cut out sugar, lost weight and got 4,8 or there abouts on OGTT. Lucky him.If this is true and this man isn't diabetic at all, why is he trying to make out that he is and spouting all this useless verbage. sad.
He did have a HbA1c of 60 before the OGTT so at one point he actually was diabetic. Apparently this was due to eating huge amounts of sugar, if I have understood his posts correctly. Since he has cut out sugar, lost weight and got 4,8 or there abouts on OGTT. Lucky him.
How is a Hba1c of 60 not diabetic? I'd love to be non diabetic. But im.diabetic just like you. Difference is I don't believe the earth is flat and I'm reasonably certain santa doesn't exist too!If this is true and this man isn't diabetic at all, why is he trying to make out that he is and spouting all this useless verbage. sad.
Well thanks, you could have broken that to me gently.I'm reasonably certain santa doesn't exist too!
Thing is that @mikej1973 isn't diabetic at all as his OGTT came back at 4.something. As we all know, including mikej and his HPCs, this effectively excludes a diagnosis of diabetes. The cut-off is at around 12, depending on testing method so he has a lot of work in front of him to cause enough damage to his pancreas to qualify as diabetic. His carb intake seems promising though so I'm sure he will succeed eventually. .
Well thanks, you could have broken that to me gently.
I'm tempted to say one high reading dose not make you diabetic, hubs had a shocker after a piece of daughters Christmas cake, but it doesn't make him diabetic either,
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