Thommothebear
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I aim for about 60% from fats and have been worrying that this might not be enough!
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The key is to realise it is just a starting point. Telling many newly diagnosed people to go cold turkey onto a sub 50g vlc regime is both unrealistic and of course people are naturally suspicious of giving up foods they've been told to believe are ok for diabetics. I was "taught" by the probably the most vociferous very low carb advocate this forum ever had (a T2 85% fat intake half marathon runner) yet he also advocated that 130g as a staring point to newly diagnosed people. I don't for one moment dispute that you may need to do a vlc diet to maintain your BG's but for many it can be a perfectly valid lifestyle choice not a necessity. The amount of carbs required to "eat to your meter" varies considerably person to person anything from sub 30g to around 200g a day in my experience.
It is eating to your meter that counts not the diet you choose to follow that really matters imo
The report definitely sums up my own experience of LCHF. Have forwarded it to my DSN. She showed an interest in LCHF but didn't seem to actually know much about it. Thank you.
Thanks, Kate, very kind of you to get back. Interestingly, I read a couple of weeks ago that GPs had cash incentives to get patients on statins.
You may have seen a recent Italian study (Daily Telegraph, yesterday or the day before) that bergomet tablets ( bergoamot, an ingredient of Earl Grey tea) does everything that statins are supposed to do.
Thanks! Mille gracias and Tusen Tack!
One question only, no two actually: Why moderate fat intake and why easy on cheese? The cheeses I get contain next to no carbs at all and are very nice.
If we look at energy intake I aim at 75 %E from fat. Do you think that is too high?
Thanks! Mille gracias and Tusen Tack!
One question only, no two actually: Why moderate fat intake and why easy on cheese? The cheeses I get contain next to no carbs at all and are very nice.
Good question - most of the folk who were part of the study were overweight and their aim was help this as well as the diabetes- so they had to watch intake .I think someone else said earlier in this post about balancing fat intake with his bathroom scales.
Interesting perhaps we were more anti sugar than anti starch ? I thought we were both, though I do wonder if for folk at the start of their low carb journey who are on a lot of both it may be easier to eliminate sugar first and then move on to starch Mind you I know plenty of folk who did both very rapidly !There are a few oddities.
Like being anti cheese, when some are as low as 1g of lactose per kg.
Also whilst accepting that starchy foods often have a higher GI than "sugar" being more anti "sugar" than anti starch. (What the report also appears to miss is that polysacharides are the carbohydrates containing the most sugars.)
No, I don't like the part in Southport doctor's report about avoiding cheese. That isn't my experience of LCHF, if that is what you mean. I eat plenty of cheese and enjoy it. A piece of Cambazola fills me up. If there is none in the fridge for a snack, I tend not to eat anything.There are a few oddities.
Like being anti cheese, when some are as low as 1g of lactose per kg.
Also whilst accepting that starchy foods often have a higher GI than "sugar" being more anti "sugar" than anti starch. (What the report also appears to miss is that polysacharides are the carbohydrates containing the most sugars.)
Iit may be easier to eliminate sugar first and then move on to starch
EDIT: Sorry, scrub that again...Thanks Robert72, have just realised thanks to your chart that my fitness pal does this.. So just checked in my food for today... Brilliant to see the graph with fats, protein and carb..
Is it possible to change their 55% carbs recommendation to your own % levels?
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Sorry I posted for changing on the web site - I have revised it for the appI might have to update, I have fitness hoals but nothing where it says "customise".. Will carry on checking as annoying that my carbs are set to 55%!!
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Mine doesnt look anything like that on my iphone!! Crikey.. I'm going to have to sort this out.
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