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Newly diagnosed

Kafalf

Active Member
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32
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
I've just been diagnosed with T2 so shocked as I feel great, I just had a routine over 40 MOT check. I had no symptoms, my hbc1a was 9.5 I've been put on metformin after putting up some resistance. I weigh 60kg with a bmi of 21.3 and asked the nurse if I could do it through diet but she was adamant that I go on medication!!! I'm on 1 500mg a day for a week then I have to up it to 2 a week after a week. So good so far but only 2nd day of taking them. Is it me or does anyone else think that the doctors give out pills for a quick fix, I felt I wasn't listened to . Should I be checking my blood sugar levels? This is all new to me so any comments would be helpful ☺.
 
I've just been diagnosed with T2 so shocked as I feel great, I just had a routine over 40 MOT check. I had no symptoms, my hbc1a was 9.5 I've been put on metformin after putting up some resistance. I weigh 60kg with a bmi of 21.3 and asked the nurse if I could do it through diet but she was adamant that I go on medication!!! I'm on 1 500mg a day for a week then I have to up it to 2 a week after a week. So good so far but only 2nd day of taking them. Is it me or does anyone else think that the doctors give out pills for a quick fix, I felt I wasn't listened to . Should I be checking my blood sugar levels? This is all new to me so any comments would be helpful ☺.

Hi, have you been given a meter and strips? If not, ask for one. It will be your greatest tool in gaining control of your levels (which you will if your diet is right, and by diet I don't mean in order to lose weight). Firstly, don't panic - I'm not on metformin coz I have other issues it would upset, but it is by all accounts a very good drug with other benefits too. If your level is 9.5, that's equivalent to a meter reading average of about 12.5 mmols over the last 3 months. It's pretty high and so yeas, I'd have expected meds - in fact, your doctor has acted quickly which is good. main problem is the lack of general advice newly diagnosed diabetics are given. Check out the forums on this site, particularly those on Type 2, Low-Carb Diet and Ask a Question. Also look at the info in people's signatures (footnotes) for a better handle on what's what in terms of figures. you will see how much progress people are making on a low carb diet. not everyone is in love with this, but I, for one, have really lowered my levels on it and feel healthier than I did before diabetes! I had no symptoms as such either when I was diagnosed (pretty common) One piece of advice I would emphasize - create and maintain a diary of the food you eat and the readings you take, and the times. A reading before particular food and two hours after will let you know its impact (ideally the level should return to premeal numbers after about 2 hours unless the food you are eating is high in sugar and/or carbs). At the very minimum, the record you will create will guide your food choices and arm you with details to show a doctor. I honestly don't think the meds are an overreaction. And, if you make substantial improvements, it will come down and maybe even be withdrawn. Good luck. Don't hesitate to post a question - it will get a response. This is a great site.
 
I've just been diagnosed with T2 so shocked as I feel great, I just had a routine over 40 MOT check. I had no symptoms, my hbc1a was 9.5 I've been put on metformin after putting up some resistance. I weigh 60kg with a bmi of 21.3 and asked the nurse if I could do it through diet but she was adamant that I go on medication!!! I'm on 1 500mg a day for a week then I have to up it to 2 a week after a week. So good so far but only 2nd day of taking them. Is it me or does anyone else think that the doctors give out pills for a quick fix, I felt I wasn't listened to . Should I be checking my blood sugar levels? This is all new to me so any comments would be helpful ☺.
I was recently diagnosed T2 at a level of just over 7 and put straight on to Metformin the nurse said they are advised now to put all T2 diabetics on it as it has got protective properties for the heart and other things. I have to increase it over 8 weeks and I am one week in to taking it and so far so good. Like you I am only on one a day at the moment and I have another week taking just one then I have to increase it by one tablet every 2 weeks until I am on four a day. Good luck with yours
 
I was recently diagnosed T2 at a level of just over 7 and put straight on to Metformin the nurse said they are advised now to put all T2 diabetics on it as it has got protective properties for the heart and other things. I have to increase it over 8 weeks and I am one week in to taking it and so far so good. Like you I am only on one a day at the moment and I have another week taking just one then I have to increase it by one tablet every 2 we
Hi -- could you just clarify about 'recently diagnosed'? I thought you had been diabetic for longer than that. Or were you pre-diabetic before? Sorry if I've got this wrong.
 
You can try asking for a meter - doubt they will give you one though. Get a 'codefree' meter the strips are £6 for 50, one of the cheapest. Test before eating and 2 hours after. Try reducing your carbs for now, that's bread, pasta, rice etc. Try walking too or upping your exercise always helps to reduce levels. Good luck
 
I will tag @daisy1 to provide you with some basic information @Kafalf.
Remember that this is a marathon as opposed to a sprint and sometimes newbies go into information overload mode because there is only so much information that they can take on board.
Take your time, read around the forum and ask any pertinent questions. Nobody can tell you what you can and cannot eat and this is why it is essential that you get a meter and test strips so that you can see your individual response rather than relying on other people's reactions to certain foods.

It will become clearer and you will get all the support you need from members here.

Take care, it is a shock to the system when you are diagnosed.
 
Hi and welcome. Your BMI is very good. Can I ask how old you are? There is a possibility that the high blood sugar level is the result of being a Late onset T1 and not T2. I say this not to worry you but having been down that route myself and being thin at diagnosis I'm aware of the possibility. Metformin helps us all but only by a small amount. The low-carb diet also helps most of us a lot. With that high HBA1C you really must get a meter so you can see what is happening. The SD Codefree is popular and can be bought online with low-cost test strips. If the blood sugar doesn't come down a lot of the next few weeks then do go back to the nurse and suggest late onset T1. She may not have heard of it but the latest NICE guidelines now talk about it if slim at diagnosis and with high blood sugar. Do come back over the next few weeks if the high blood sugar persists.
 
Hi thanks for this I'm 45, I did wonder about T1 as I had lots of relatives on my father's side of the family with T1. My brother and twin sister also have T2 my brother who's very slim and fit got diagnosed about 8 years ago and my twin sister who is also slim had gestational diabetes 12 years ago and it stayed so they diagnosed her with T2.
 
Hi thanks for this I'm 45, I did wonder about T1 as I had lots of relatives on my father's side of the family with T1. My brother and twin sister also have T2 my brother who's very slim and fit got diagnosed about 8 years ago and my twin sister who is also slim had gestational diabetes 12 years ago and it stayed so they diagnosed her with T2.
Daibell is right about late-onset T1, but it's also possible you might be lucky like me and have MODY (I had this diagnosed at a similar age to you, similar BMI, and with T1 in the family -- it's genetic, but most forms can be treated by metformin and other drugs without necessarily progressing to insulin -- it is often misdiagnosed as T2, but that doesn't really matter as the treatment is similar). I shall keep fingers crossed for you.
 
Hi -- could you just clarify about 'recently diagnosed'? I thought you had been diabetic for longer than that. Or were you pre-diabetic before? Sorry if I've got this wrong.
Diagnosed a couple of weeks ago had been prediabtic for a few years
 
Hi thanks for this I'm 45, I did wonder about T1 as I had lots of relatives on my father's side of the family with T1. My brother and twin sister also have T2 my brother who's very slim and fit got diagnosed about 8 years ago and my twin sister who is also slim had gestational diabetes 12 years ago and it stayed so they diagnosed her with T2.
I might be wrong about this but if you were T1 I would have thought you would have had at least some symptoms of diabetes and you blood sugar would have been much higher than 9.5
 
I might be wrong about this but if you were T1 I would have thought you would have had at least some symptoms of diabetes and you blood sugar would have been much higher than 9.5
My LADA crept up on me over a period of around 7 years. For the first few years a low'ish carb diet and the usual three tablet types kept some control but eventually I went into the 20s quite often. My meter guided me over those years together with my annual HBa1C which gradually went up with a steep increase in the year before insulin so LADA can be insidious. During this time I was always thin and still am with gym 3 times a week.
 
@Kafalf

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
I was recently diagnosed T2 at a level of just over 7 and put straight on to Metformin the nurse said they are advised now to put all T2 diabetics on it as it has got protective properties for the heart and other things. I have to increase it over 8 weeks and I am one week in to taking it and so far so good. Like you I am only on one a day at the moment and I have another week taking just one then I have to increase it by one tablet every 2 weeks until I am on four a day. Good luck with yours
I was diagnosed in October with a level of 50 which is just over the normal level. I was not put on medication but just advice to watch my diet and exercise. I was given information about how to read food labels and have an appointment for blood tests and checks with my diabetic nurse in January to check my levels again three months from diagnosis. I am also booked on to the Desmond course in January. I have cut out all biscuits, cakes chocolate etc out of my diet and trying to watch my carbohydrate intake to see if it makes a difference. When I spoke to the diabetic nurse she said that people are only put on to medication when levels are over 55.
 
I was diagnosed in October with a level of 50 which is just over the normal level. I was not put on medication but just advice to watch my diet and exercise. I was given information about how to read food labels and have an appointment for blood tests and checks with my diabetic nurse in January to check my levels again three months from diagnosis. I am also booked on to the Desmond course in January. I have cut out all biscuits, cakes chocolate etc out of my diet and trying to watch my carbohydrate intake to see if it makes a difference. When I spoke to the diabetic nurse she said that people are only put on to medication when levels are over 55.
Just goes to show how different areas have different guide lines my diabetic nurse said the starting level for Metformin used to be 48 but they now are advised to put all diabetics on Metformin whatever their levels were at diagnosis.. mine was 46. I don't really have a problem with it as most people say Metformin is a good drug to take
 
Metformin is a wonder drug for many. It reduces your appetite and it helps stop your liver adding more sugar into your blood. It takes a while to build up in your system, (weeks), and each dose you take is either helping you build up or top up. Don't expect immediate results. You still need to control your diet.
It may cause flatulence (but not smelly) and give you the runs in the beginning.
No harm in taking it IMHO but you mileage may vary.
 
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