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Reversed T2D

annalaix

annalaix

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Location
Australia
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
What happens after you reach this stage? I know at this point you would probably make healthier food choices for the rest of your life since you have the capability of reversing the disease but by "reversing" does that mean your blood sugars are now normal or stabilised to indulge in foods you once did without spikes? Like white rice and bread? Or will the disease always be in your system for the rest of your life?
 
Any or all.

I wouldn't eat like I used to.
I watch calories.
I balance carbs against exercise.
I check BG.

I don't eat processed food, like white bread and rice.
Equally, I don't stress if it's a long day, and that's all there is, as I know I'll have eaten so little calories I can process it well.
But I don't overeat.
I balance everything.
 
Thank you :) I just want to know.
If I ever reverse it, I would like to just simply have a meal of indulgence for celebrations but I'm still worried that it'll ultimately cause a high blood sugar right after :(
 
annalaix said:
Thank you :) I just want to know.
If I ever reverse it, I would like to just simply have a meal of indulgence for celebrations but I'm still worried that it'll ultimately cause a high blood sugar right after :(
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Try it when you do get there. It's the only way you'll know.
 
Quite simply this person has not reversed their diabetes, they have found a way to control it without medication and well done to them. I personally follow a LCHF way of eating and being insulin dependant have noticed the benefits.
 
andres746 said:
Quite simply this person has not reversed their diabetes, they have found a way to control it without medication and well done to them. I personally follow a LCHF way of eating and being insulin dependant have noticed the benefits.
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I see, I just want to know. I really just want to eat a certain meal from my favorite restaurant, but I'm worried that the starches in it will shoot up my BG. Ahaha. Maybe that's just me and the munchies right now.
 
As a genuine or extremely occasional one off, yes. You wouldn't probably want to regularly as it would put your long term control at risk.
 
t on
andres746 said:
Quite simply this person has not reversed their diabetes, they have found a way to control it without medication and well done to them. I personally follow a LCHF way of eating and being insulin dependant have noticed the benefits.
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If you haven't reversed it, and control it on LCHF, what's wrong with that?
Seems the best option if that's what you can do?
If you're on insulin though, do you not count that as medication?
 
annalaix said:
I see, I just want to know. I really just want to eat a certain meal from my favorite restaurant, but I'm worried that the starches in it will shoot up my BG. Ahaha. Maybe that's just me and the munchies right now.
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If you can reverse it, it's worth going for it.
You also need to be happy as to what your own personal limit for rises in BG are.
But be careful not to continuously eat as you used to, otherwise you will be back on track to un-reverse it.
 
SunnyExpat said:
t on

If you haven't reversed it, and control it on LCHF, what's wrong with that?
Seems the best option if that's what you can do?
If you're on insulin though, do you not count that as medication?
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I'm referring to the headline on the website, not myself. Of course I know that insulin is medication. The point is that this Edinburgh guy's diabetes has not been reversed, merely controlled. My own experience is that I have reduced my dosage of insulin by following a LFHC way of eating ( I hesitate to say diet, because that infers it is temporary when this needs to be a permanent change)
 
andres746 said:
I'm referring to the headline on the website, not myself. Of course I know that insulin is medication. The point is that this Edinburgh guy's diabetes has not been reversed, merely controlled. My own experience is that I have reduced my dosage of insulin by following a LFHC way of eating ( I hesitate to say diet, because that infers it is temporary when this needs to be a permanent change)
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I must admit to being confused, we're talking about us, on this forum.
 
annalaix said:
I see, I just want to know. I really just want to eat a certain meal from my favorite restaurant, but I'm worried that the starches in it will shoot up my BG. Ahaha. Maybe that's just me and the munchies right now.
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Likelihood is they will shoot up. It's down to you but you can slowly introduce some of your fave foods and test to see, but you'll never reverse it (until a cure is discovered) so it will be your personal decision whether to take that risk. I sure as heck would not do rice but maybe some bread might work for you. Sounds weird, but bread is bad for me but I can eat an English muffin (common in OZ as you'd know) and no effect whatsoever
 
A viewpoint you need to consider.
'you'll never reverse it'

Is everyone claiming they have mistaken?

Maybe some of us that do see good numbers, and eat foods others wouldn't, would like to think we're telling the truth.

There are a lot of naysayers, you have to look past them at times.
 
It happens to be fact as it cannot be reversed, simply put under control or in remission, but I won't bother debating it with you.
 
I reversed my type 2. Even a nondiabetic's blood sugar can spike if they consume a large amount of carbs at one sitting. However, if you've reversed your diabetes by losing weight then you can eat some carbs and your blood glucose will return to normal after a couple of hours or so. If you gain back enough weight the diabetes will come back. Not everyone can reverse their diabetes, of course.
 
NoCrbs4Me said:
I reversed my type 2. Even a nondiabetic's blood sugar can spike if they consume a large amount of carbs at one sitting. However, if you've reversed your diabetes by losing weight then you can eat some carbs and your blood glucose will return to normal after a couple of hours or so. If you gain back enough weight the diabetes will come back. Not everyone can reverse their diabetes, of course.
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That is true but "reverse" (and yes, that terminology might apply to me as well insofar as my numbers are concerned but not the word I'd use) suggests you can return to what you once did with regard to lifestyle, weight, food and sugars.

You simply cannot. At least in my opinion
 
Mike D said:
That is true but "reverse" (and yes, that terminology might apply to me as well insofar as my numbers are concerned but not the word I'd use) suggests you can return to what you once did with regard to lifestyle, weight, food and sugars.

You simply cannot. At least in my opinion
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Well, it's reversed as long as it's reversed. If it comes back it's no longer reversed. But until it comes back, it's reversed. I don't think reversal means you can't get it again if you do the things that caused it in the first place. If you no longer have insulin resistance or elevated blood glucose, then you no longer have type 2 diabetes. In the end, it doesn't really matter what you call it if I have normal blood glucose levels, does it? Especially since there's zero possibility that I'll go back to a high carb diet.
 
NoCrbs4Me said:
Well, it's reversed as long as it's reversed. If it comes back it's no longer reversed. But until it comes back, it's reversed. I don't think reversal means you can't get it again if you do the things that caused it in the first place. If you no longer have insulin resistance or elevated blood glucose, then you no longer have type 2 diabetes. In the end, it doesn't really matter what you call it if I have normal blood glucose levels, does it? Especially since there's zero possibility that I'll go back to a high carb diet.
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Don't disagree with much of what you said ... and certainly not arguing with you mate. "Halt" and "remission" and "control" (to me) appeal a lot more. We all have to be comfortable with the words but lost count of the number of people who assume low figures once achieved means their job is done. It isn't. Not that I'm quoting fact here, but I'm not sure by any stretch that a reversal of the condition is replicated across associated complications if they happen to have progressed to a point that the damage is permanent. Like it or not, that part of it is down to diabetes more often than not.

Can I get away with some carbs? Yep. But I don't think for one minute that I can indulge as I'm too damned angry with the side annoyances that need 24/7 attention, minor though they are. Thank you statins for that precious gift
 
Mike D said:
but you'll never reverse it (until a cure is discovered)
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I'd like to think that you are wrong here Mike. While I know that is the line of many in the medical profession there are people like Professor Taylor and quite a few on here who would disagree
 
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