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Type 2s: What was your fasting blood glucose in a morning? (very low chat level)

JanetMcDowell said:
5.6 this morning. My non diabetic husband was 5.5. Very happy with that. My OGTT came back as normal and hba1c was 38. Very happy with that but will still be sticking to my LCHF diet. Been diabetic for over a year and couldn't have got this far without the forum so thank you to all my friends on this forum. Will still be watching my blood sugars though and posting as before if that's ok
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Keep posting those 5's, it's inspiring to many people to see someone with good control :)
 
ickihun said:
@Igw we type 2s have carbs and protein converted to glucose stored mainly in our liver and our muscles so this stored sugar is circulating around in our blood and organs because the liver can 'dump' more glucose into our blood during the day but more noticeable overnight (about 2.30-4am in our sleep). This is called The Dawn Phenomoneum. Now shiftworkers can get it at different times. I've worked all different hours and been forced to be awake when I should have been asleep. My body never knows where it is, especially after having 2 babies, night feeds and a difficult toddler and ill partner.
My body constantly dumps on me. Some posters have found low carbing can reduce the circulating glucose and a very very LIGHT nibble before bed ( I use cheese or nuts) can block this dump through the night. The liver otherwise thinks it's being starved and helps us out (even non-diabetics) but we type 2s don't need it's help. A block can help some who are doing a low carb diet.
Reducing carbs and protein can make a significant difference to reducing bgs. A liver block can stop your levels from rising through the night.
I've found on rising too if I don't eat immediately on rising as a norm. I've never been a fan of dashing a breakfast just for the sake of it. I can enjoy a coffee and cream to do my morning liver block with or without metformin/insulin.
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@lgw I should've checked before I replied - @ickihun is a great font of knowledge for TDP (quicker to type)! Best of luck conquering it.
 
ickihun said:
@Igw we type 2s have carbs and protein converted to glucose stored mainly in our liver and our muscles so this stored sugar is circulating around in our blood and organs because the liver can 'dump' more glucose into our blood during the day but more noticeable overnight (about 2.30-4am in our sleep). This is called The Dawn Phenomoneum. Now shiftworkers can get it at different times. I've worked all different hours and been forced to be awake when I should have been asleep. My body never knows where it is, especially after having 2 babies, night feeds and a difficult toddler and ill partner.
My body constantly dumps on me. Some posters have found low carbing can reduce the circulating glucose and a very very LIGHT nibble before bed ( I use cheese or nuts) can block this dump through the night. The liver otherwise thinks it's being starved and helps us out (even non-diabetics) but we type 2s don't need it's help. A block can help some who are doing a low carb diet.
Reducing carbs and protein can make a significant difference to reducing bgs. A liver block can stop your levels from rising through the night.
I've found on rising too if I don't eat immediately on rising as a norm. I've never been a fan of dashing a breakfast just for the sake of it. I can enjoy a coffee and cream to do my morning liver block with or without metformin/insulin.
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Thank you. That was really helpful
 
PenfoldAPD said:
Are you testing FBG as soon as awake (some do it before getting out of bed!), there is a morning phenomenon known as Liver Dump which can raise your BG levels on/just after waking. I'm not a huge expert as never really suffered with it - search on the forum and you can learn more.

Your daily readings sound good though :)
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Thank you. It was after a black coffee (no sugar) and being awake for an hour or so. It takes about 3-4 hours after eating in the day to get readings of circa 5+
 
mmm - food for thought! After a week of low 4s with a couple of 3.5s, today 6.1. Bah humbug.

Two nights ago I had decreased the Lantus by one unit and the following morning 4.2. Last night I dropped the evening Gliclazide and increased the Lantus by one unit back to 8 units.
 
Morning All

Looks like the drama is over, back to 4.8 this morning.

Blood test for Hba1c tomorrow, but can't get annual review appointment before 17/11!
 
lgw said:
Thank you. It was after a black coffee (no sugar) and being awake for an hour or so. It takes about 3-4 hours after eating in the day to get readings of circa 5+
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You now need to be clever and beat your liver and glucose stores. Reducing carbs and protein are the easiest remedy but difficult to keep long term.( but not impossible, as some do). I find beating my liver to it's nonsense rewarding but sometimes family commitments put sparkles in the wheels.
Good habits and diet change can turn diabetes management upright.
Have a go. Some have reduced there meds as a result.
I feel metformin helps our liver but some people can mimic it's good work naturally. I take metformin primarily for hormone imbalances (pcos) as I feel I can block my liver healthily myself. (No fatty liver now through the correct diet and blocks).
 
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