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Type 1: Feel like its a stupid question

kaylz91

kaylz91

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Location
Angus, Scotalnd
Type of diabetes
Type 1
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Insulin
What would happen to my bs levels if I over bolused for a meal would they rise or would they fall sorry for the stupid question :(
 
If you've given too much insulin tjen your levels will drop. If you know your ratios you should be able to work out how much more food you need to eat..
 
I had someone phone me at 3am saying he was hypo and accudentally bolused for the food he had just ate... that was simple.. jyst double the food ge had jyst ate!!
You need to work out how many carbs that equates to and eat....
 
kaylz91 said:
What would happen to my bs levels if I over bolused for a meal would they rise or would they fall sorry for the stupid question :(
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Insulin is a drug that drops your blood sugar. So if by "over bolus" you mean taking too much insulin then the answer is fall. If you bolus and then eat your blood sugar will rise in response to the food, but once the insulin starts working, if you have taken too much for the food you have eaten, it will make your blood sugar fall.
 
Last Saturday night I had a takeaway omelette for supper and went to bed 3 hours later I woke up the sunday sitting at 10.4 I'd entered the carbohydrate as 20g on someone else's advice yet the week before I entered it as 11g and woke up on 7.7 I don.t know or understand what went wrong :( x
 
No two days will ever be identical wven if you entered in same carbs..

It depends upon a lot of factors not just bolus qty.. ie activity that day or night, qty of water, drinks, levels that day, wherlther your basal rate changed etc.. there are big factors besides just carbs, fat, protein.... with takeaways when it is literally a guestimate then you are unlikely to get perfection...
 
kaylz91 said:
Last Saturday night I had a takeaway omelette for supper and went to bed 3 hours later I woke up the sunday sitting at 10.4 I'd entered the carbohydrate as 20g on someone else's advice yet the week before I entered it as 11g and woke up on 7.7 I don.t know or understand what went wrong :( x
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What was in the omelette? Is that all you had to eat on both occasions?

So, an omelette obviously has eggs in. Eggs don't have carbs in, but they are full of protein, very easily digestible protein which is readily available for out bodies to perform gluconogenesis on, so a few hours after eating eggs I find my blood sugar starts to do a steady gentle climb - that could explain the high blood sugar in the morning, but loads of other things could have caused that too.

As to why you didn't get a rise when you took less insulin last time? Who knows, any number of things. I could eat the exact same meal and take the exact same insulin every day for a week and I bet I wouldn't get the same blood sugar readings the morning after any day. I don't think that would mean I had done something wrong though. I'm a real life functioning human - insulin and food are only two of the things that effect my blood sugar, there are dozens of other things, that I have no control over (and some that I do), that effect my blood sugar.

Have you done a DAFNE course? Have you read think like a pancreas?
 
It was ham and chicken both times having the same again tonight. the first time it was with a slice of buttered bread the 2nd it was with a few poppadoms will do the same insulin i did the first time as its exactly the same meal and see how that goes and no I've only been diagnosed 4 weeks haven't even discussed courses yet x
 
Hi @kaylz91 . With being relatively new to being diabetic you maybe experiencing the honeymoon period.
It takes a while for our pancreases to actually fully stop producing insulin, you may find that for a period of time your pancreas will give out a small amount of insulin here and there.
Having this little bit of natural insulin along side your bolus can lead to some irregular readings.
Problem is you'll have no way of knowing when your pancreas decides to have this little spurt of life.
Honeymoon periods don't last forever so hopefully in time you'll see more consistent readings.
P.S the readings you've given sound like good control for a newbie.
 
So it sounds like you are trying to carb count without having recieved any guide nice on what it is or how to do it? Is tat what it feels like to you? I mean if you don't understand what it is insulin does (I mean, you asked if taking more insulin is the reason you had a higher blood sugar the morning after) you might what to chill out and just get used to taking insulin, what impacts on blood sugar and what managing blood sugar means, instead of striving for some desire for the same numbers. I would recommend getting hold of a copy of the book "think like a pancreas".

If you want to look into carb counting there is a free online course- http://www.bertieonline.org.uk

But you should probably ask your DSN for some guidance on insulin adjustments.

You probably won't be offered any courses for a while. Because you are newly diagnosed you are likely to be honeymooning - starting on insulin lets the insulin producing cells catch their breath and you might have a bit of endogenous insulin production in early diagnosis. This can make blood sugar unstable, those cells might function on a bit of a hit and miss basis, only when they feel like it
 
kaylz91 said:
It was ham and chicken both times having the same again tonight. the first time it was with a slice of buttered bread the 2nd it was with a few poppadoms will do the same insulin i did the first time as its exactly the same meal and see how that goes and no I've only been diagnosed 4 weeks haven't even discussed courses yet x
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Do consider buying Think Like A Pancreas. There's a lot of information in it and you won't take it all in at once, but it's a great book and will be a good reference for years to,come :)

My advice is to keep lots of notes. Even if you can't carb count yet, if you make notes of what you eat, your blood sugar and your insulin dose, it'll help you get an idea of what works for you. i also advise getting a good quality pair of digital scales. They're invaluable :) Even if you're not sure about carb counting you can still weigh things for,consistency eg weigh your cereal, weigh pasta, weigh a raw potato before baking it.
 
I do carb count and adjust my insulin etc I've thought about it and the only thing i did different from the first week was take my basal 2 hours after I usually do x
 
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