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The wristband is detachable. You would have to detach it to inject the insulin. You inject the insulin yourself where you would.

It would have to be quite bulky and probably not something people would want to wear on their wrists @NaziaB

The insulin pens we have now are quite compact compared to when they first came out, but even then perhaps a way to redesign them would be a better alternative to the wrist device idea. (hope you don't mind me saying).
 
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I have a heart rate monitor which has a wristband display but the sensor is a band around the body - although it would increase costs, if it was cheap enough for me to buy one then the technology must be there as a package already.
Perhaps the insulin delivery device could be on the body band - so you might get an alert, turn off the locking device and activate the delivery device.

Thanks for the suggestion! :)
 

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@NaziaB Do you have any friends or people you know with diabetes, particularly Type 1? Have you seen an insulin pen or a pump? You can easily Google or watch videos on YouTube to get an idea of what they look like and how they work, if you can't see them in real life.

You could also look at CGMs.

What would the point of a body band be? Wouldn't it be bulky? How would it be accessed? Would the whole thing have to be removed to inject? Why would someone need an alert on it?? Would it contain only bolus insulin? If so, how much? Would the reservoir take a normal cartridge or would it need filling from a vial? How many units would it hold?
 
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It would have to be quite bulky and probably not something people would want to wear on their wrists @NaziaB

The insulin pens we have now are quite compact compared to when they first came out, but even then perhaps a way to redesign them would be a better alternative to the wrist device idea. (hope you don't mind me saying).

Not at all, thanks for the suggestion! :)
 

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Best of luck with your project. My hubby is into nanotechnology but tbh it all just makes my head hurt. He says I should send you this link and I always do what I am told. At a molecular level your device needs to measure glucose levels (light waves? identifying the number of glucose molecules passing in a defined time period) might be the way forward. Personally I am hoping for a probe a lot smaller than the cannula on the freestyle libre so the concept of using lightwaves is my favourite concept. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25641955

Hi, thank you for the link. Just to clarify, what is a probe? Also, please can you explain a bit more about the "light waves" thing? Thank you :)
 

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hi there
there is no "normal amount" -- the needs are varied over the diabetic population.
some users may only need as little as 4-6 units a day and other users ( including myself ) may need 35-50 or more units per day.

How many mls is 50 units?
 

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How many mls is 50 units?

@NaziaB My questions to you are to help not to catch you out. If you can't answer them or they're things you haven't considered, then that will point you in the direction of further research or a change of direction for your project.

When people take the time to respond, it's good to get a response or at least acknowledgement.
 
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@NaziaB My questions to you are to help not to catch you out. If you can't answer them or they're things you haven't considered, then that will point you in the direction of further research or a change of direction for your project.

When people take the time to respond, it's good to get a response or at least acknowledgement.

I'm sorry I thought I already responded. I realise that and I am researching as I go along. Your questions are helping thank you. I hope you have seen the update section of my blog.
 
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I'm sorry I thought I already responded. I realise that and I am researching as I go along. Your questions are helping thank you. I hope you have seen the update section of my blog.

Where you say you're open to suggestions of a different device?

My suggestion would be to maybe consider concentrating on just the glucose reading part of your wristband. You could add extra features to it, as you've already mentioned eg alarms for high/low sugar, and the ability to interact with other devices eg phones.

You could consider some kind of parental monitoring feature where parents can check the blood glucose of young children when they're not with them. You could also consider how the results could be made into graphs and transferred to, say, a computer for storage or printing out.

For me, the biggest thing would be the accuracy of the device. I would want to be able to,rely on it to read correctly. That would be more important than any other feature and I'd happily forego all extras for a working, accurate meter of the type you describe.
 

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Ok so I have decided on the one wristband

The wristband will have these features:
- A screen that will tell the patient their blood sugar readings, time and date can be displayed.
- When the wristband is turned on, the screen will show the current reading of the user.
- It will be able show previous readings so the user can see if they are doing well or not.
- These reading will be stored in a cloud storage type of thing so that it can be viewed on a mobile or on a desktop. (Users will have an option to be able to see the results in graph form).
- Using the buttons on the side the user can navigate to previous readings
- The wristband will alert the user that it is time for insulin injections
- The wristband can also be set up so that when blood sugar levels are high a second person can be alerted. e.g. a caretaker, parents, etc

Can I also get an idea of how much people pay for thier current devices and how they are willing to pay for this kind of wristband?

Also, can I have suggestions for a name of this wristband?

Thank you in advance for your responses! :)
 
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Hi, thank you for the link. Just to clarify, what is a probe? Also, please can you explain a bit more about the "light waves" thing? Thank you :)
Hi Nazia. I think we are all getting carried away with the perfect world device for diabetics. I think you will have by now realised that there are many types of diabetes, many drugs and differing prescriptions. Shall we now revisit basics. What is your course? Is this device you are going to invent for one project only or is it something you will be developing over the two/three years of your course. The needs of a student in PR and marketing or somewhat different to someone interested in creating a medical device.

you say the wristband will have these features:
- A screen that will tell the patient their blood sugar readings, time and date can be displayed. - I think freestyle libra does this
- When the wristband is turned on, the screen will show the current reading of the user. - this requires a method of continuously monitoring bg levels- Does this need to be done using current technology or will your course allow you to take a Dr Spock (Star trek) approach?
- It will be able show previous readings so the user can see if they are doing well or not. - I think that is similar to your first identified need
- These reading will be stored in a cloud storage type of thing so that it can be viewed on a mobile or on a desktop. (Users will have an option to be able to see the results in graph form). -several cloud options available. I think a nephew doing graphic design tackled something similar in his course work last year.
- Using the buttons on the side the user can navigate to previous readings - my ancient mobile phone does this so you young un's have all of the latest knowledge about that stuff at your finger tips.
- The wristband will alert the user that it is time for insulin injections - I have the alarm on a mobile phone set to tell me when to take my ete drops 11 times a day. It is a very old phone and does the job magnificently
- The wristband can also be set up so that when blood sugar levels are high a second person can be alerted. e.g. a caretaker, parents, etc - excellent idea but thankfully not an area I can give any useful insight into

Can I also get an idea of how much people pay for thier current devices and how they are willing to pay for this kind of wristband? - Hmm depends. If/when it becomes imperative I suppose I will get a freestyle libra but I nearly passed out when someone explained the cannula and how it is inserted into the body. I have a terror of needles dating back to a rather ineffectual blood nurse when I was 14. She had grown men cry. After been subjected to her a number of times I locked myself in the loo. They got the maintenance man to detach the door and I have never been able to handle needles since.

My ideal device would me something not involving sharp pointy things. I wish someone would develop the urine test along the lines of the home pregnancy test. Alternatively you could design something for us to carry the insulin kits, supporting equipment and maintain perfect temperature.

Nano technology is interesting if you are in something like engineering or medicine but not so much for business studies or marketing.
 

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Hi Nazia. I think we are all getting carried away with the perfect world device for diabetics. I think you will have by now realised that there are many types of diabetes, many drugs and differing prescriptions. Shall we now revisit basics. What is your course? Is this device you are going to invent for one project only or is it something you will be developing over the two/three years of your course. The needs of a student in PR and marketing or somewhat different to someone interested in creating a medical device.

My course is science based. The business proposal is one of the units in my course.

I'm supposed to develop an idea for a business product or service that could be commercialised BUT the proposal has to be done in written form.

Unfortunately I won't actually be making the device in its physical form which is a shame really - I can see a lot of people could do without the "deathly" needle.
 

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Hi Nazia. I think we are all getting carried away with the perfect world device for diabetics. I think you will have by now realised that there are many types of diabetes, many drugs and differing prescriptions. Shall we now revisit basics. What is your course? Is this device you are going to invent for one project only or is it something you will be developing over the two/three years of your course. The needs of a student in PR and marketing or somewhat different to someone interested in creating a medical device.

you say the wristband will have these features:
- A screen that will tell the patient their blood sugar readings, time and date can be displayed. - I think freestyle libra does this
- When the wristband is turned on, the screen will show the current reading of the user. - this requires a method of continuously monitoring bg levels- Does this need to be done using current technology or will your course allow you to take a Dr Spock (Star trek) approach?
- It will be able show previous readings so the user can see if they are doing well or not. - I think that is similar to your first identified need
- These reading will be stored in a cloud storage type of thing so that it can be viewed on a mobile or on a desktop. (Users will have an option to be able to see the results in graph form). -several cloud options available. I think a nephew doing graphic design tackled something similar in his course work last year.
- Using the buttons on the side the user can navigate to previous readings - my ancient mobile phone does this so you young un's have all of the latest knowledge about that stuff at your finger tips.
- The wristband will alert the user that it is time for insulin injections - I have the alarm on a mobile phone set to tell me when to take my ete drops 11 times a day. It is a very old phone and does the job magnificently
- The wristband can also be set up so that when blood sugar levels are high a second person can be alerted. e.g. a caretaker, parents, etc - excellent idea but thankfully not an area I can give any useful insight into

Can I also get an idea of how much people pay for thier current devices and how they are willing to pay for this kind of wristband? - Hmm depends. If/when it becomes imperative I suppose I will get a freestyle libra but I nearly passed out when someone explained the cannula and how it is inserted into the body. I have a terror of needles dating back to a rather ineffectual blood nurse when I was 14. She had grown men cry. After been subjected to her a number of times I locked myself in the loo. They got the maintenance man to detach the door and I have never been able to handle needles since.

My ideal device would me something not involving sharp pointy things. I wish someone would develop the urine test along the lines of the home pregnancy test. Alternatively you could design something for us to carry the insulin kits, supporting equipment and maintain perfect temperature.

Nano technology is interesting if you are in something like engineering or medicine but not so much for business studies or marketing.


Thank you for taking the time for answering my queries, it was really useful! :) Also, the wristwatch uses a technology called "reverse iontophoresis". This allows the wristband to continually take readings.
 

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Ok so I have decided on the one wristband

The wristband will have these features:
- A screen that will tell the patient their blood sugar readings, time and date can be displayed.
- When the wristband is turned on, the screen will show the current reading of the user.
- It will be able show previous readings so the user can see if they are doing well or not.
- These reading will be stored in a cloud storage type of thing so that it can be viewed on a mobile or on a desktop. (Users will have an option to be able to see the results in graph form).
- Using the buttons on the side the user can navigate to previous readings
- The wristband will alert the user that it is time for insulin injections
- The wristband can also be set up so that when blood sugar levels are high a second person can be alerted. e.g. a caretaker, parents, etc

Can I also get an idea of how much people pay for thier current devices and how they are willing to pay for this kind of wristband?

Also, can I have suggestions for a name of this wristband?

Thank you in advance for your responses! :)

How will data be store in cloud storage? how is it going to connect to the Internet to upload to the cloud? Would it be easier for a Bluetooth connection to an app and then an upload from the app?

Why is it only alerting to highs? Highs don't need an instant reaction and a fix. Lows do.

If it will be connected to the web for upload to cloud storage, why not get the continuous readings continuously sent to a third party (the parent or carer) so that they can keep an eye on blood sugar before reaches the limit when an alarm is triggered?

If its continuously monitoring is it also predicting with trend arrows? How often is it giving separate readings from the coninuous monitoring? Does it need calibrating with a finger stick?

Reverse iontophoresis is an interesting idea and all, but it's been considered as a method for non invasive blood sugar monitoring since the early 90s, was unsuccessful with the glucowatch and the next attempt is not due to be launched until 2018. Glucowatch should tell you that the key concern for commerciality is accuracy.
 

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My course is science based. The business proposal is one of the units in my course.

I'm supposed to develop an idea for a business product or service that could be commercialised BUT the proposal has to be done in written form.

Unfortunately I won't actually be making the device in its physical form which is a shame really - I can see a lot of people could do without the "deathly" needle.
You never know. You may find the solution to managing diabetes. The work you and your colleagues do in this sphere will certainly take us a step nearer.
 

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How will data be store in cloud storage? how is it going to connect to the Internet to upload to the cloud? Would it be easier for a Bluetooth connection to an app and then an upload from the app?

Why is it only alerting to highs? Highs don't need an instant reaction and a fix. Lows do.

If it will be connected to the web for upload to cloud storage, why not get the continuous readings continuously sent to a third party (the parent or carer) so that they can keep an eye on blood sugar before reaches the limit when an alarm is triggered?

If its continuously monitoring is it also predicting with trend arrows? How often is it giving separate readings from the coninuous monitoring? Does it need calibrating with a finger stick?

Reverse iontophoresis is an interesting idea and all, but it's been considered as a method for non invasive blood sugar monitoring since the early 90s, was unsuccessful with the glucowatch and the next attempt is not due to be launched until 2018. Glucowatch should tell you that the key concern for commerciality is accuracy.

Oh ok, I forgot about the low reading alerts as well, thanks for that! :)
The wristband can send continuous readings to an account that you would be registered to.
Hmm, I'm not sure how I could separate the current readings, etc.
Ahh I will look into that.
 

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Thank you for taking the time for answering my queries, it was really useful! :) Also, the wristwatch uses a technology called "reverse iontophoresis". This allows the wristband to continually take readings.
That is a interesting field of research for continuous measuring. Hubby wonders if you have read this http://news.mit.edu/2013/nanotechnology-could-help-fight-diabetes-0516 which employs the use of a gel which self administers insulin when there is a high glucose reading.
 

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Ok guys, how does SUGABAND sound as a name for the wristband? Any other suggestions?:shy:

So far I have come up with names such as:

- Sugaband
- Glucomonitor
- Electroband (but this one seems to sounds scary, I don't think the name is feasible)

Please can I get more suggestions. Anything crazy and bizarre is also pretty much accepted!

Thank you in advance for your responses! :)
 
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feels a lot like your letting the forum do your collage work for you.