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Dippydolly

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi I am new here so be gentle I am type 2 diagnosed 2 years ago my bs have been going up and now after getting my head round it I am ready to tackle it , problem is my fasting bs is 8.6 and cannot seem to lower it it them jumps to about 13 and then slowly during the day comes down to about 6.8 really don't know what I am doing wrong
 
Hi. Can you give us a bit more info on your medication if any and whether you are following a low-carb diet. What is your BMI? Don't worry too much about your fasting sugar reading but focus more on the reading 2 hours after a typical meal; it should ideally be below 8.5 mmol.
 
Hello and welcome to the forum. :)

I'm tagging @daisy1 because she has a really great information email which will help you lower your blood sugars.

The lovely thing about this forum is that almost all of us have been in your situation and have been helped by other members - so ask any questions you want. :)
 
The fasting numbers seem to be the last ones to respond - you'll be able to see progress more directly if you do the before and after eating tests to see what you can control.
I just checked my level and it is 7.6 - I have not eaten all morning so it might be rising by now, it does when I fast - but I am over 5 months into low carb eating, and usually only see that sort of number after eating - in fact that would be fairly high for 2 hours after eating.
My second blood test results showed a much reduced Hba1c level - no longer in the diabetic range, so I have just gone on low carbing - I wanted normal levels in a year and I got them in under 3 months so I was happy.
 
Hi. Can you give us a bit more info on your medication if any and whether you are following a low-carb diet. What is your BMI? Don't worry too much about your fasting sugar reading but focus more on the reading 2 hours after a typical meal; it should ideally be below 8.5 mmol.
Hi I am on 500gm Metformin 2 a day and 20gm atorvastatin 1 day , I have just started low carb diet (Monday) but struggling what to eat
 
Hi I am on 500gm Metformin 2 a day and 20gm atorvastatin 1 day , I have just started low carb diet (Monday) but struggling what to eat

It takes a while to get used to a low carb diet but it does get easier and, in time, it becomes second nature. Have a look at www.dietdoctor.com for some ideas and there are threads in the low carb section of this forum where several of us post our daily menus - I have got LOTS of good ideas from reading what other low carbers are eating. This is the thread where I post mainly:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/what-have-you-eaten-today.75781/

The one piece of information I wish I'd known when I started low carbing is that Lidl do a high protein roll that many of us can tolerate without much of a rise (if any) to our blood sugars. Its triangular, fairly dark brown and is in the loose rolls baskets in the bakery section. There are loads of threads about these rolls on this forum.
 
@Dippydolly

Hello Dippydolly and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you need to and someone will come and help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
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Focus on managing your post meal glucose spikes. This is often done by choosing food that has minimal carbs...as your carbs awareness grows you can adjust accordingly.

Once the post meal glucose is in control, the fasting glucose level will gradually show improvements.
 
So Breakfast was coffee and a slice of toast bs 2 hours after 13.2 !! Lunch yougurt and banana bs before 7.2 after 8.00 dinner bacon omelette bs before 6.8 after 6.2 how am I doing? Oh and a 30 minute brisk walk as well
 
I suspect it was the toast that caused your spike. Toast (and all carbs) convert to sugar once eaten - even so called healthy carbs like wholemeal bread and brown rice or pasta are bad for us Type 2 diabetics.

Try a breakfast without carbs - eggs maybe - a lot of us are less tolerant of carbs in the morning. If you really can't start the day without toast then try the Lidl high protein rolls split and toasted with lots of butter on.
 
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