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Low Carb Diabetes Site in Trouble.

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Unfortunately, although there is plenty information in the article, it is still not enough to make up one's mind as to whether the criticism is justified.

My reflexive reaction (as a low-carb evangelist) was to be supportive of the pilloried website, but there's just not enough detail to figure out just what happened.

Low-carb is not for everyone. Perhaps this lady's case was unsuitable and she was indeed made unnecessarily ill by the low-carb advice.
 
I found it interesting that someone had made a low-carb website in the first place. The website now has no low-carb details. And the Diabetes UK's response. At the bottom of the article there is also a link which appears to suggest that the website owner somehow 'disappeared' £150,000 of charity money, whereas clicking and reading the link clearly shows it wasnt his fault.

it just seems like a smear campaign for someone challenging the received wisdom. And yes, I think using this unfortunate lady as an example is a deliberate attempt to discourage the credibility of low carbing.
 
The severe stomach cramps could have been due to metformin, or constipation, but that hasnt even been mentioned, just the implication that low carbing was the cause.
 
serenity648 said:
IAt the bottom of the article there is also a link which appears to suggest that the website owner somehow 'disappeared' £150,000 of charity money, whereas clicking and reading the link clearly shows it wasnt his fault.
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Sigh. We will probably never know the truth.

This once again drives home the need for better science about LCHF. After all, here we are, on an excellent website. Some of us are strong proponents of LCHF as a first line of defense in treatment of T2D, if medically appropriate.

But, absent stringent controlled evidence and wide acceptance by the medical community, we are all just one mouse-click away from being labeled as scam artists. That includes even those members who clearly have dramatically more medical knowledge than I have (in some cases, so deep that I suspect they may have formal medical training themselves).

This is terribly unfair, but inevitable, until (and unless) we have a proper scientific backing for LCHF. Or not, as the case may be. Many of us have been brilliantly successful with this dietary approach, but that's all we are: an "experiment of one" multiplied many times over, under uncontrolled conditions, doing our own thing at home.
 
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For me it highlights the dangers of ( and to) any site / person / approach that adopts a one size fits all approach when dishing out advice on medical matters
 
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Boo1979 said:
For me it highlights the dangers of ( and to) any site / person / approach that adopts a one size fits all approach when diahing out advice on medical matters
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For me it doesn't highlight anything - we don't know exactly what advice they were given or even if her medical issue had anything to do with her change in diet.
 
What struck me is the repeated phrase "a no carbohydrate diet" Not a low carb diet. Unless all you eat is meat and some fats you are bound to eat carbs. There are carbs in lettuce. (not many, but they are there if you eat enough of it) and we all know there are plenty of carbs in the vegetables we eat such as cauliflower and broccoli. So what exactly was she eating? We don't know.
 
As the article is ambiguous and therefore impossible to tell what really happened - and also as it was a conversation I think and not a written document so we will never know.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
What struck me is the repeated phrase "a no carbohydrate diet" Not a low carb diet. Unless all you eat is meat and some fats you are bound to eat carbs. There are carbs in lettuce. (not many, but they are there if you eat enough of it) and we all know there are plenty of carbs in the vegetables we eat such as cauliflower and broccoli. So what exactly was she eating? We don't know.
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Yes, this hard hitting investigative journalism piece could have benefited greatly from an interview with the woman in question. I doubt very much that she was advised by the web site to eat no carbohydrates and I doubt she cut out all carbs.
 
I agree with you all. Its a poor excuse of an article, whose sole aim seems to be to discredit both the website owner, and the low carb diet.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
What struck me is the repeated phrase "a no carbohydrate diet" Not a low carb diet. Unless all you eat is meat and some fats you are bound to eat carbs. There are carbs in lettuce. (not many, but they are there if you eat enough of it) and we all know there are plenty of carbs in the vegetables we eat such as cauliflower and broccoli. So what exactly was she eating? We don't know.
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I would completely agree and we dont know what she / her family were told low carb means
Even on this site, while there is much agreement that reducing carbs is the best approach upon a diagnosis of T2, there is precious little agreement as to what that means in practice and great variation in which iteration of low carb works for different individuals - ketogenic? All carbs are evil? Moderate carb reduction? More liberal carb reduction? High fat? Medium fat? Etc etc etc and this is a large site (certainly larger than the site in question seems to be) with ( hopefully) multiple voices
 
I don't know if they changed their website after the article but seems to me that is very empty of content - few pages that seems ripped from some other site wrapped in tons of javascript and CSS.
Rings to me as somewhat fishy.
 
I wonder why a company dedicated to the tidal wave generation of electricity calls it's self DIABETES SUPPORT (WALES) LIMITED of which the site in question is a subsidiary of strange.
 
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