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Surgery is backwards...

LittleGreyCat said:
Your test results should be freely available.
I an forced to use SystemOnline (surgery changed from EMIS due to normalisiation with a group of local practices) and it shows the results as input by the phlebotomist.

An initial diagnosis or major follow up actions should come from the GP.
The raw results should be available to the patient.
There is an argument for the first set of results which are to be used for diagnosis could be held back until the GP has reviewed them and set up an appointment to explain everything, but after that they should be just there for you.

Some receptionists seem to try and make everything "special" and needing to be blessed by a GP.

Something to discuss (constructively) with your practice manager.
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I get my notes via systemonline too, it used to be emis. It works OK but as they only changed this June there is nothing online before that. Most annoying.
If I came face to face with my practice manager I might say something I might later regret! One of the doctors in the practice is the leader of the CCG and has roped in the manager as well, though what qualifications a practice manager has to sit on the CCG I don't know. The CCG are trying to pull down our 400> bed hospital and move it to the next town. Then having pulled it down they want to build a new one with just 60 beds .... I think they thought they could just do it but thanks to Facebook they have faced HUGE resistance.
 
ringi said:
@Granny_grump_ Check on https://www.nhs.uk/Service-Search/GP/LocationSearch/4 to find other local GPs and then contact their practice manager to find out their policy on access to test results. Changing GPs is an easy process for most people!
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Hi @ringi Hi I've checked this out and to be honest theirs not a lot to change too that is any different to my own surgery,but I've just spoken to practice manager and they are claiming miscommunications has doctor wasn't informed I only wanted fasting blood results he thought I wanted loads of results from previous tests I'd had done over the years.
So I can have a copy but they didn't test hba1c so I won't have that but I will have lipids and I've been told to call in and request
fasting blood test form and book an appointment for my annual review. Which is now 18 myths since I last had one due to shortage at surgery of diabetics nurses, but been told they now have 3 so they are playing catch up.
And has to being able to view online test results and print them off myself I need to fill in another form which doctor will have to authorise before I can do this,nobody mentioned any of this when I registered for online services. K
 
Granny_grump_ said:
Hi @ringi Hi I've checked this out and to be honest theirs not a lot to change too that is any different to my own surgery,but I've just spoken to practice manager and they are claiming miscommunications has doctor wasn't informed I only wanted fasting blood results he thought I wanted loads of results from previous tests I'd had done over the years.
So I can have a copy but they didn't test hba1c so I won't have that but I will have lipids and I've been told to call in and request
fasting blood test form and book an appointment for my annual review. Which is now 18 myths since I last had one due to shortage at surgery of diabetics nurses, but been told they now have 3 so they are playing catch up.
And has to being able to view online test results and print them off myself I need to fill in another form which doctor will have to authorise before I can do this,nobody mentioned any of this when I registered for online services. K
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That sounds remarkably like your surgery being difficult or maybe incompetent... I took in proof of ID filled out a form and within a couple of days had all the results from my tests at that surgery online. So far as I know the doctor should have no say in whether you get access.
 
bulkbiker said:
That sounds remarkably like your surgery being difficult or maybe incompetent... I took in proof of ID filled out a form and within a couple of days had all the results from my tests at that surgery online. So far as I know the doctor should have no say in whether you get access.
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Hi @bulkbiker It's beyond all reason to have not given me a copy of my test results I had one last year no problem but the doctor in question is our diabetic doctor who I hasten to add I never go to see no faith in him never have had, now I know my instinct of him was spot on so I will never go to see him. Anyway once I go into surgery and fill out this form, provided the doctor agrees on me having access to my test results I should be able to print them off myself I believe. But I will check on this and anything else I will have access too.
May I also add you where the very first person to speak and advise me when I joined the forum, and I'd just like to congratulate you on your fantastic achievements your looking well, and Dr Jason Fong I know is someone you admire so what a lovely photo of you and him. I followed your advice and have lost 4 stone in weight and my blood glucose is well controlled apart from now having gout which I think was caused with high protein and high cholesterol from full fats dairy in 12 months my cholesterol has gone from 4.5 to 7.4 I see you also have cholesterol around my level does this not concern you, my doctors have been pressing me to have statins, what's your thought on raised cholesterol I'm 71 years old and have read where it was said a raised cholesterol level when you are older isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Look forward to hearing from you! Kathleen
 
Granny_grump_ said:
Hi @bulkbiker It's beyond all reason to have not given me a copy of my test results I had one last year no problem but the doctor in question is our diabetic doctor who I hasten to add I never go to see no faith in him never have had, now I know my instinct of him was spot on so I will never go to see him. Anyway once I go into surgery and fill out this form, provided the doctor agrees on me having access to my test results I should be able to print them off myself I believe. But I will check on this and anything else I will have access too.
May I also add you where the very first person to speak and advise me when I joined the forum, and I'd just like to congratulate you on your fantastic achievements your looking well, and Dr Jason Fong I know is someone you admire so what a lovely photo of you and him. I followed your advice and have lost 4 stone in weight and my blood glucose is well controlled apart from now having gout which I think was caused with high protein and high cholesterol from full fats dairy in 12 months my cholesterol has gone from 4.5 to 7.4 I see you also have cholesterol around my level does this not concern you, my doctors have been pressing me to have statins, what's your thought on raised cholesterol I'm 71 years old and have read where it was said a raised cholesterol level when you are older isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Look forward to hearing from you! Kathleen
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Bloody brilliant results on the weight loss and the glucose control.
When (optimistically) you get your online results we can analyse your cholesterol numbers or if you get them on a printout we can do it sooner. You're right in noticing that my numbers have gone up but I'm not really worried because the ratio of triglycerides to HDL, which is apparently what we should be looking at, is good in my case. You're also correct in saying that lower isn't always better for ladies of a certain age so I wouldn't be worried in your shoes. My doctor also tried it on about statins but I will not be taking them ever so I hope he has given up.. time will tell. We had an interesting conversation about my levels and he was obviously not as knowledgable as he thought he was, Im afraid I put him right. ineterstingly he is also the head of diabetes care in our surgery and when I asked him about Prof Roy Taylor and the ND and low carbing he had never heard of either so I kind of gave up on him then and there.
I remember our early conversations and am so pleased you have had such great results.. it's the reason I come here so much to pay back for the info I got when I first got here. However I would say that you have done all the work I just pointed you in the right direction so well done gain. Big hug.
M
 
bulkbiker said:
Bloody brilliant results on the weight loss and the glucose control.
When (optimistically) you get your online results we can analyse your cholesterol numbers or if you get them on a printout we can do it sooner. You're right in noticing that my numbers have gone up but I'm not really worried because the ratio of triglycerides to HDL, which is apparently what we should be looking at, is good in my case. You're also correct in saying that lower isn't always better for ladies of a certain age so I wouldn't be worried in your shoes. My doctor also tried it on about statins but I will not be taking them ever so I hope he has given up.. time will tell. We had an interesting conversation about my levels and he was obviously not as knowledgable as he thought he was, Im afraid I put him right. ineterstingly he is also the head of diabetes care in our surgery and when I asked him about Prof Roy Taylor and the ND and low carbing he had never heard of either so I kind of gave up on him then and there.
I remember our early conversations and am so pleased you have had such great results.. it's the reason I come here so much to pay back for the info I got when I first got here. However I would say that you have done all the work I just pointed you in the right direction so well done gain. Big hug.
M
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Hi @bulkbiker you have adviced guided helped me and yes people have to help themselves in the end but I'd been type2 for 17 years no help or guidance certainly not from doctor or NHS but from you and many others on here, without your help initially and guidance I would definitely not have been able to make this journey.So I thank you so very much and hope you stay on here because their are so many needing help and advice from people like yourself, and many more unfortunately will come for help. Your help and advice is what they will be needing along with others who can guide them to a better future, at least a better one than they have now!K
 
Granny_grump_ said:
Hi @bulkbiker you have adviced guided helped me and yes people have to help themselves in the end but I'd been type2 for 17 years no help or guidance certainly not from doctor or NHS but from you and many others on here, without your help initially and guidance I would definitely not have been able to make this journey.So I thank you so very much and hope you stay on here because their are so many needing help and advice from people like yourself, and many more unfortunately will come for help. Your help and advice is what they will be needing along with others who can guide them to a better future, at least a better one than they have now!K
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Wow that brought tear to my eye.. thank you very much.
 
Guzzler said:
Everything I hear about cholesterol raises my hackles. Your experience is just jaw dropping.
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after spending 3 years on a self injection trial which worked reducing my cholesterol to 3.3 I am now told that I cannot continue treatment with NHS funding because it has never been proved that lowering cholesterol will prevent heart disease .........????
 
tdag43 said:
after spending 3 years on a self injection trial which worked reducing my cholesterol to 3.3 I am now told that I cannot continue treatment with NHS funding because it has never been proved that lowering cholesterol will prevent heart disease .........????
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Wow. Just... Wow!
 
tdag43 said:
after spending 3 years on a self injection trial which worked reducing my cholesterol to 3.3 I am now told that I cannot continue treatment with NHS funding because it has never been proved that lowering cholesterol will prevent heart disease .........????
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Greate news, that the NHS is now starting to stand up to the drugs companies at last! Lowering cholesterol has NEVER be proven to prevent heart disease. It is now looking like cholesterol has very little to do with heart disease risk unless someone smokes.

But we do know that high insulin levels increase the risk of heart disease, and we know that high BG levels results in our body creating more insulin, likewise drugs that forces our body to create more insilin increase the risk of heart disease. Marformin is proven to reduce how much insulin our body needs to contorl BG, so is a "low carb" diet.

(One type of cholesterol is a "marker" of high insulin levels, and the only effective way know to reduce it is "low carb".)
 
tdag43 said:
after spending 3 years on a self injection trial which worked reducing my cholesterol to 3.3 I am now told that I cannot continue treatment with NHS funding because it has never been proved that lowering cholesterol will prevent heart disease .........????
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Blimey! At long last the powers that be are listening. Thank you for that information. :)
 
gardengnome42 said:
I get my notes via systemonline too, it used to be emis. It works OK but as they only changed this June there is nothing online before that. Most annoying.
If I came face to face with my practice manager I might say something I might later regret! One of the doctors in the practice is the leader of the CCG and has roped in the manager as well, though what qualifications a practice manager has to sit on the CCG I don't know. The CCG are trying to pull down our 400> bed hospital and move it to the next town. Then having pulled it down they want to build a new one with just 60 beds .... I think they thought they could just do it but thanks to Facebook they have faced HUGE resistance.
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That isnt the CCG that is behind pulling down hospital..

Even with Doctors the government are stating "bigger is better".

After being at secondary care hospitals all my life and transferring my care needs (not only for diabetes) to a tertiary care hospital... well believe me there is a huge difference. Yes, from a 5 minute drive I now have 2 hours drive each way... but the difference is unimaginable.

In my case I fought two aecondary hospitals to get a 2nd mastectomy on a supposedly healthy boob that kept having to have biopsies... I transfferred my care to a tertiary hospital via my GP.
Thank god I did. First mastectomy boob had dcis in it.. suppoosedly my "healthy" boob that 2 hospitals wouldnt entertain removal had a different primary cancer in it when removed ( when they agreed)...

Moving on even further since then.. the 2nd secondary care hospital said they could not correct the first surgeons work... I am now due to see a plastic surgeon in two weeks time to get 1st surgeons work checked and corrected.

The NHS does actually need to reform and to send patients further afield... to the patient that can actually mean better care... but yes.. the inconvenience of travelling further....

To me my health is more important than mileage or inconvenience..
 
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