rom35
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- Type of diabetes
- Type 2
- Treatment type
- Diet only
My target is max 5,6 two hours after meal - and it can be done.Isnt post meal recommendation level is 7.8 or below? Is 7 realistic?
My target is max 5,6 two hours after meal - and it can be done.Isnt post meal recommendation level is 7.8 or below? Is 7 realistic?
Depends on your status: liver, pancreas, muscles and viceral fat. That is function of 4 variables, so very complex. You have to find your combination of diet and excercise to have BG in mantinels: max 5,6 between meals and spike after meal not go over 8. Find with your meter what works for you. For me the best combination is LCHF diet combined with 30m brisk walk after each meal, and 5 times a week gym (run, walk and weight lifting). I eat only 3x a day. It's hard regime, but I have "strong" diabetes. I'm able to stand with this regime, and reward is no health complication. So use your meter, find your combination and go for it!I'm doing regular exercise and even started to eat a balanced diet. Is this enough?
Depends completely on your definition of a "balanced" diet. If that diet involves carbohydrates in large quantities from starchy and sweet foods then however balanced it is it won't help your blood glucose levels.even started to eat a balanced diet
I read your other thread on this and wondered why the podiatry specialists dont highlight this by writing en masse to the Chief Medical Officer because wrong dietary advice on Dx is litterally causing amputations and killing people. This could be so powerful. We cant keep blaming doctors who are obliged to follow their rules of engagement.As I may have mentioned on another thread my ex anatomy tutor who is a podiatric surgeon operated on a lady who my daughter is in contact with on face book to amputate her leg from just below the knee because of T2 complications, he is now having to to do this on a regular basis up to 20 times a month removing diabetics limbs.
This lady was diagnosed T2 8 months ago and had been following her GP's advice and eating to the well plate guidelines.
Thing is she has lost a limb but of course is still diabetic so has now decided on the surgeons advice to go low carb but in the hospital is even though having just lost a limb still being provided a high carb diet so is having to get people to bring in low carb food for her.
The surgeon told her he had over heard two doctors in the hospital saying that T2 diabetics don't end up with amputations and it is only T1's who have such severe complications such ignorance on the pat of NHS doctors appalled him so he had to correct them by sharing a T2 case file of a patient he had operated on.
So while the advice and ignorance of doctors continues as is, I can only see the situation worsening over time
The dietary guidelines and advice have got to change
The surgeon in question feels like crying when having to remove limbs when it could be for the most part avoided, especially where young children are concerned.
The lady in question is or was a PE teacher and thinks not only has she lost a limb but she won't be able to function in her profession any longer.
While doctors and health professionals keep telling people that T2 is progressive and can only get worse and giving advice that can only worsen the situation it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy.
If you want to know why look up Dr Gary Fettke and his fight against the authorities in Tasmania. I would imagine that his plight has put all but the most ardent advocates of Low Carb in a state of fear for their jobs.I read your other thread on this and wondered why the podiatry specialists dont highlight this by writing en masse to the Chief Medical Officer because wrong dietary advice on Dx is litterally causing amputations and killing people. This could be so powerful. We cant keep blaming doctors who are obliged to follow their rules of engagement.
My target is max 5,6 two hours after meal - and it can be done.
will diabetes type 2 worsen
I have just googled Dr Fettkes story and it is indeed poisonous. I suppose if the College of Podiatry in this country came on board then it wouldnt have to be an individual career on the line.If you want to know why look up Dr Gary Fettke and his fight against the authorities in Tasmania. I would imagine that his plight has put all but the most ardent advocates of Low Carb in a state of fear for their jobs.
Well I'll certainly be hanging around to tell you guys what to do! In my own sweet way of course!I am refreshing this thread because it is so important to us diagnosed out of the blue in the last six months. This is what scares the hell out of many of us. I dont know if my last response to @bulkbiker was naive but as such an experienced forumite I value your opinions.
None of the “old hands” should underestimate the value of their experience in helping newbies to get a grip on it all..
The population of Uk is circa 65If you want to know why look up Dr Gary Fettke and his fight against the authorities in Tasmania. I would imagine that his plight has put all but the most ardent advocates of Low Carb in a state of fear for their jobs.
Good to know. And what is your response to why should podriatic surgeons should not raise their concerns about amputations due to diabetes to a higher level. The NHS is spending more on Diabetis than any other disease it just doesnt make sense.Well I'll certainly be hanging around to tell you guys what to do! In my own sweet way of course!
Luckily I don't have to rely on the health service anywhere to pay me so they can't keep me quiet either.
I agree that they should but they are still very few who are prepared to stand up against their "trade organisations". Aseem Malhotra is standing up against the majority of cardiac surgeons but I wonder what his long term career prospects in the NHS are like now? Dr Unwin is doing a great job but these guys are few and far between. It is a national scandal but those in power that have been giving wrong advice for years are now so entrenched that they can't suddenly change their views. The pharma companies have their claws in deep. I wish there was some way we could get the word to all but for the moment we are a slowly growing fairly loud minority and we are fighting against food companies, dieticians, most of the Health care world and pharma companies. It will be a battle royal..Good to know. And what is your response to why should podriatic surgeons should not raise their concerns about amputations due to diabetes to a higher level. The NHS is spending more on Diabetis than any other disease it just doesnt make sense.
I don’t know about robust research on T2 getting worse with good blood sugar control but I am on a personal mission to demonstrate it doesn’t have to. 7 years of a low carb diet that kicked my T2 into remission, with a very strong family history of diabetes and I am living proof it really doesn’t have to get worse.
It makes my blood boil how many people suffer with progressive diabetes in the UK, through following the flawed official dietary advice. So glad for forums like this
I have succeeded in keeping to the targets given in the start of the thread for my 80 yo early diabetes father. Isnt post meal recommendation level is 7.8 or below? Is 7 realistic? Zero carb?
Hi Stephen,Hi, I'm one of the newly diagnosed ones and this thread grabbed my attention because it mentions 'worsen'. Well, I'm a little scared right now as I don't really want to get my condition worse. I'm doing regular exercise and even started to eat a balanced diet. Is this enough?
For the aged, the general preference is to keep their glucose level higher because the risk of hypo and falling/fainting is greater.
The focus would be to retain muscle mass with adequate protein and strength exercise.
Perhaps some coconut oil to keep the brain adequately fueled.
Those of us in the 40s/50s runs the real risks of serious diabetic complications when we do not seek to achieve normal glucose/insulin levels over the years.
Hi, I'm one of the newly diagnosed ones and this thread grabbed my attention because it mentions 'worsen'. Well, I'm a little scared right now as I don't really want to get my condition worse. I'm doing regular exercise and even started to eat a balanced diet. Is this enough?