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Britain's Fat Fight

I wasnt allowed easter eggs or sweets like my slim cousins. I was always over weight, even at, 6yrs old. I had diabetic symptoms then.
However we had mash potato, chips, pastries and leek pudding or mince and dumplings, soup and dumplings. We were never hungry. We craved carbs but never hungry.
Now life is so fast that a cooked meal from scratch isn't always possible.
This week has been so tiring with a sick small child and tired partner.
Sleep is still disturbed so energy is in shortage in our home this week.
Sleep is the biggest catalyst of bad food choices. Bad weather influences our bodies (so economy), weather PM wants to hear it or not.
Sleep is our regulator for hormone production.
 
kev-w said:
I caught 5 minutes of this, where they were talking about Kellogs not doing something with that pointless label on the front of packets, I use the table on the back for nutritional information, mostly for carbs, and of which sugars, but fats, protein & salt too, and have never looked at the one on the front as I can't carb count from it.....
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It's going to have to be improvement bit by bit. I won't for a second pretend that the front of pack labelling is adequate enough with colour coding and obviously the information on the back is of importance to us. However, from the perspective of others as an 'at a glance' thing it can be useful enough for some people to think twice before chucking the product in their basket/trolley if there is a sea of red on the front label. Most people do not need to carb count.

To some people the information on the back is probably thought of as useless information that they haven't the time or the inclination to look at. Life is simply too busy to inspect everything in the shop before buying it. That's not good in general but it's simply where we are today.

From me personally, what I'd like to see with time is the labelling laws being extended to more products where there is nothing at all at the moment, front or back. Some of these you can gather the info online if you go searching but it's very dependent on where you're buying from.
 
db89 said:
. Most people do not need to carb count.
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From the programs title I'd suggest that in fact they do :p

From me personally, what I'd like to see with time is the labelling laws being extended to more products where there is nothing at all at the moment, front or back. Some of these you can gather the info online if you go searching but it's very dependent on where you're buying from.
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Yeah that's a fair point, I recently had a Morrisons fishmonger showing what goes into their fish pies so's I could work the carbs out for them.
 
What got me is that 1 in 6 beds in the NHS contain a diabetic patient - 1 in 6 beds!!!! my poor little brain just can't comprehend that statistic, it just doesn't compute! how the hell as a nation have we got to this stage and it not be main stream news/openly discussed (especially at government level)?!?!? :bigtears:
 
kev-w said:
From the programs title I'd suggest that in fact they do :p
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Increasingly, and sadly so, I'll have to concur. The attitude simply isn't there though. Excerpt from an office conversation this morning where this program came up:

"What a load of rubbish - I saw that thing with Jamie Oliver the other day saying he and the Government had failed our kids. I'll have what I want and give my kids what I want! I'm not having some chef tell me what to do."

Said whilst guzzling down one of the first of a few packet of crisps today and one of the whitest cups of tea I've ever seen with at least 4 sugars stirred in of which there'll be another 2/3 before the end of the day.
 
slip said:
What got me is that 1 in 6 beds in the NHS contain a diabetic patient - 1 in 6 beds!!!! my poor little brain just can't comprehend that statistic, it just doesn't compute! how the hell as a nation have we got to this stage and it not be main stream news/openly discussed (especially at government level)?!?!? :bigtears:
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I seriously doubt that most of the diabetic patients are there due to diabetes related illness, unless they are type 1 or 3 or similar.. They are probably there for a number of reasons, unconnected to diabetes. And considering how hard it is to get an NHS bed, many of them will be old and suffering from age related diabetes, which has always been the case. Many of them will be type 1 and they are in DKA or similar, so again, unrelated to diet as the cause of it.

I have a friend who is a government statistician, often his work is overwritten and altered to suit purposes of various governments. Beware of statistics.

It suits this government to create the illusion that there is a self inflicted diabetes epidemic, then they can blame us and refuse to treat us.

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slip said:
What got me is that 1 in 6 beds in the NHS contain a diabetic patient - 1 in 6 beds!!!! my poor little brain just can't comprehend that statistic, it just doesn't compute! how the hell as a nation have we got to this stage and it not be main stream news/openly discussed (especially at government level)?!?!? :bigtears:
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I was in hospital for 3 days last year. The board behind my bed said "diabetic". However, the reason I was there was 100% nothing to do with diabetes. I imagine that was recorded as occupied by a diabetic. Even diabetics have non-related issues that require hospitalisation.
 
lucylocket61 said:
I seriously doubt that the diabetic patient is there due to diabetes related illness, unless they are type 1 or 3 or similar.. They are probably there for a number of reasons, unconnected to diabetes. And considering how hard it is to get an NHS bed, many of them will be old and suffering from age related diabetes, which has always been the case. Many of them will be type 1 and they are in DKA or similar, so again, unrelated to diet as the cause of it.

I have a friend who is a government statistician, often his work is overwritten and altered to suit purposes of various governments. Beware of statistics.

It suits this government to create the illusion that there is a self inflicted diabetes epidemic, then they can blame us and refuse to treat us.
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Bluetit1802 said:
I was in hospital for 3 days last year. The board behind my bed said "diabetic". However, the reason I was there was 100% nothing to do with diabetes. I imagine that was recorded as occupied by a diabetic. Even diabetics have non-related issues that require hospitalisation.
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I never said they were there for diabetic reasons and in fact that was stated in the programme. T1's account for about 10% of the 3.7million diabetics in the UK - it would follow that T1s would occupy roughly the same percentage of 'diabetic' beds?

Lucylocket61 have you seen figures for the number of T2s hospitalised for treatments/complications due to diabetes in the UK?

Completely agree with your Statistic and government comments :)
 
Did anyone else notice that when HFW was reading some of the emailed replies from the smoothie companies, and his computer screen was shown briefly in the background, there was a reference from one (think it was Innocent) about the “Eatwell Plate”? :banghead:
 
Mel dCP said:
Did anyone else notice that when HFW was reading some of the emailed replies from the smoothie companies, and his computer screen was shown briefly in the background, there was a reference from one (think it was Innocent) about the “Eatwell Plate”? :banghead:
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Oh dear.
 
Mel dCP said:
Did anyone else notice that when HFW was reading some of the emailed replies from the smoothie companies, and his computer screen was shown briefly in the background, there was a reference from one (think it was Innocent) about the “Eatwell Plate”? :banghead:
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I didn't notice it, but not surprised - I'm sure some part of Coca-cola (it is them that own Innocent?) have something to do with providing expert funding for the research and investigation into the eat well plate.
 
slip said:
I didn't notice it, but not surprised - I'm sure some part of Coca-cola (it is them that own Innocent?) have something to do with providing expert funding for the research and investigation into the eat well plate.
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It was Naked, I’d misremembered! But they’re owned by Pepsi...
 
slip said:
True but they probably make up the vast majority of diabetics in there that are there for diabetes related reasons.
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Not sure about that @slip my good friend works as a nurse specialist for inpatients with diabetes and she would say differently. I think the figure of 1 in 6 is about right but most type 2 diabetics don't get admitted because they are diabetic. They go in for all sorts of reasons which.frustrates her a lot because she does a lot around nurse education and finds that quite often things are not always well managed with the diabetic patient in hospital and control for many reasons can slip. I suppose if you count say heart attacks and strokes as complications of diabetes then maybe there's more but I remember her saying that something like 90% at any one time weren't there as a.direct result of having diabetes.
 
Mel dCP said:
Did anyone else notice that when HFW was reading some of the emailed replies from the smoothie companies, and his computer screen was shown briefly in the background, there was a reference from one (think it was Innocent) about the “Eatwell Plate”? :banghead:
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Yes, I noticed that slipping past on the screen. Good work on the screen capture!
 
I'm surprised everyone is talking about the trivial issues when the real elephant in the room is this:

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I thought HFW looked great with the tash. I'm heterosexual most days of the week but I found myself having unshakeable thoughts of sitting on his knee while he fed me Werther's Originals.
 
AdamJames said:
I'm surprised everyone is talking about the trivial issues when the real elephant in the room is this:

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I thought HFW looked great with the tash. I'm heterosexual most days of the week but I found myself having unshakeable thoughts of sitting on his knee while he fed me Werther's Originals.
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OMG
 
AdamJames said:
I'm surprised everyone is talking about the trivial issues when the real elephant in the room is this:

hfw.jpg


I thought HFW looked great with the tash. I'm heterosexual most days of the week but I found myself having unshakeable thoughts of sitting on his knee while he fed me Werther's Originals.
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My first thought was 'HFW must have Dutch ancestors'. Don't ask!
 
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