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zand said:
I did get hypothermia a couple of years ago - and lost a few pounds as a result. Not something I would like to do again though. :)
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Nope, it's not fun.. although as you get close to the terminal stage, it can feel like it. There have been some fun studies using room-sized calorimeters to measure energy expenditure while doing different activities. One of my favorites showed that doing exams raised the temperature because the brain's a big energy user.. Which I guess means it IS possible to lose weight just by thinking about it.. :p
 
first14808 said:
And I guess modern living with central heating means we're burning fewer calories the lazy way.
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This reminds me of one attempt to explain the global rise in T2 by linking it to global warming. Along these lines:

http://drc.bmj.com/content/5/1/e000317

It's easy to dismiss that kind of thinking as clutching at straws and just desperately trying to correlate one thing with another. But in some ways it strikes me as being not absurd.

There are a lot of examples of how small changes in temperature cause species to migrate or die off, some here...

https://19january2017snapshot.epa.gov/climate-impacts/climate-impacts-ecosystems_.html

and of course it's not because individuals in a species suddenly start dying of heat stroke, it's that their bodies just don't work so well for one reason or another when the temperatures rise by even a little bit. And never mind global warming, most people in the Western world these days keep their homes heated well above the natural environmental temperature.

Anyway like I say it just strikes me as being not absurd. Clearly the changing food environment is top dog to be focusing on.
 
AdamJames said:
This reminds me of one attempt to explain the global rise in T2 by linking it to global warming. Along these lines:

http://drc.bmj.com/content/5/1/e000317

It's easy to dismiss that kind of thinking as clutching at straws and just desperately trying to correlate one thing with another. But in some ways it strikes me as being not absurd.

There are a lot of examples of how small changes in temperature cause species to migrate or die off, some here...

https://19january2017snapshot.epa.gov/climate-impacts/climate-impacts-ecosystems_.html

and of course it's not because individuals in a species suddenly start dying of heat stroke, it's that their bodies just don't work so well for one reason or another when the temperatures rise by even a little bit. And never mind global warming, most people in the Western world these days keep their homes heated well above the natural environmental temperature.

Anyway like I say it just strikes me as being not absurd. Clearly the changing food environment is top dog to be focusing on.
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You'll be wearing bearskin and hunting with a flint axe next! Just like me!

Edit to add but in all seriousness I think that all these things can have a cumulative negative effect..
 
bulkbiker said:
You'll be wearing bearskin and hunting with a flint axe next! Just like me!

Edit to add but in all seriousness I think that all these things can have a cumulative negative effect..
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When's the next hunt? Count me in!

I do actually like to keep the temperature low in the house, and the most comfortable temperature for me when out walking seems to be around 10C. Mainly an excuse to wear a bearskin, of course.

I'd go along with the cumulative effect thing. It wouldn't be entirely surprising if you split the population of the UK into two groups of 30 million, and exposed half of them to regular temps of 5C higher than the other, then you'd see noticeable changes in health between the two groups, and T2 prevalence may well be one of the differences. I've been in touch with the government to suggest this but they haven't responded.
 
I was diagnosed with DKA last year and the doctors suspected T1.

However after just 13 days of insulin therapy and by totally eliminating carb from my diet, I was taken off insulin and my pancreas somehow revived.

I was then put on a 300-400 calorie diet for 12 weeks which was worse than the Newcastle Diet.

Lost 3.5 stones and HBA1c fell from 85 to 38.
 
NewTD2 said:
I was diagnosed with DKA last year and the doctors suspected T1.

However after just 13 days of insulin therapy and by totally eliminating carb from my diet, I was taken off insulin and my pancreas somehow revived.

I was then put on a 300-400 calorie diet for 12 weeks which was worse than the Newcastle Diet.

Lost 3.5 stones and HBA1c fell from 85 to 38.
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Wow. Congratulations on still being alive!

I presume you were kept in hospital and being regularly checked during the 12 weeks? What were they feeding you?
 
AdamJames said:
Wow. Congratulations on still being alive!

I presume you were kept in hospital and being regularly checked during the 12 weeks? What were they feeding you?
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I was fed on x2 boiled eggs, lettuce, cucumbers, tomatoes and a chicken soup for 3 months.

I nearly died but thank God I’m still alive and survived!
 
AdamJames said:
Wow. Congratulations on still being alive!

I presume you were kept in hospital and being regularly checked during the 12 weeks? What were they feeding you?
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349 calories in a single Greggs Sausage roll. And this is the very first time I have ever checked a food for its calorie content. I, too, am curious as to what a 300-400 calorie per day diet consists of.
 
NewTD2 said:
I was fed on x2 boiled eggs, lettuce, cucumbers, tomatoes and a chicken soup for 3 months.

I nearly died but thank God I’m still alive and survived!
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Could you clarify, please. You were actually an in patient for three months and were prescribed a diet that proved almost to kill you?
 
Guzzler said:
Could you clarify, please. You were actually an in patient for three months and were prescribed a diet that proved almost to kill you?
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No I followed the crash 300-400 calorie diet at home but I was being closely monitored by the Endo and GP.

I nearly died from DKA, not the diet.
 
NewTD2 said:
No I followed the crash 300-400 calorie diet at home but I was being closely monitored by the Endo and GP.

I nearly died from DKA, not the diet.
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Were they monitoring your ketones while you were eating like this?
 
NewTD2 said:
No I followed the crash 300-400 calorie diet at home but I was being closely monitored by the Endo and GP.

I nearly died from DKA, not the diet.
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Thank you for clarifying.
 
I just did a quick google. Recommended calories per day adult male ~ 2,500 to maintain weight. This would, obviously, be for a healthy, non Diabetic individual. A daily intake of 300-400 calories seems screamingly low to me but then I know nowt about the amount of calories in different foods.
 
Guzzler said:
I just did a quick google. Recommended calories per day adult male ~ 2,500 to maintain weight. This would, obviously, be for a healthy, non Diabetic individual. A daily intake of 300-400 calories seems screamingly low to me but then I know nowt about the amount of calories in different foods.
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That's my intake when I'm fasting...mostly in double cream.
 
bulkbiker said:
That's my intake when I'm fasting...mostly in double cream.
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Aye, but even on an extended fast that calorie intake wouldn't be for three months straight would it? (300-400, I mean).
 
@NewTD2 Did you have a period of re-feeding afterwards? Did you stay healthy throughout? It seems a very long time to be on such a strict diet.
 
zand said:
@NewTD2 Did you have a period of re-feeding afterwards? Did you stay healthy throughout? It seems a very long time to be on such a strict diet.
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Yes after the 3 months starvation diet I was advised to slowly but gently re-introduce all foods I was eating before.

However I’ve decided to go on a low to moderate carb diet. My fasting bg levels / readings are now between 4.9 to 5.9 mmols/l.

HBA1c is currently 39.

The aim was to remove the visceral fat and fats that are blocking my liver and pancreas.
 
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