Yes, you are right there. I ate the foods that the medical profession told me to and put on weight and I could not understand why. When telling doctors that I eat healthy meals, they would look at me with you know that look "Hmm sure" but having said that I have witnessed on many occasion doctors nurses eating really bad foods, and it is the foods that they are telling me never to eat, which I didn't anyways. There was a piece in the paper last year I think where doctors and nurses were being told to eat a more healthy diet as some patients will not take them seriously when handing out dietary advice
Some hospitals will not do surgery if people are overweight, and I am not talking about people who are very obese either. I know my son had to give up smoking for 3 months before they would do hip surgery.
Yes the medical profession does like to punish the obese because 'it's their own fault', not quite the same as smoking IMO. I understand that obesity can cause problems in surgery, but the obese person needs help all the same.
I have been thinking about this. Do you think there's an element of feeling sorry for those who need to put on weight and one of blaming those who need to lose it? Or is it easier to understand the problems of someone who has been ill and needs to gain weight? Or do the dieticians see what works for themselves and assume it works for all obese people? Just musing, Ill run along and do something useful now lol.
Gave you a winner for your comment to the doc..... here's a hug for your thyroid issues and the fact that the doc was horrid (((())))
Surely its just that they are stuck in the paradigm that says behaviours cause obesity e.g. gluttony and sloth or if you are a slightly less medievil dietician, emotional eating or being in an obesogenic environment. It must be hard to offer advice to people that you feel are partly responsible for their own condition and advice that you know they will struggle to follow.. A person who is underweight is a more morally pleasing prospect as they are the victims of some kind even though it can be really hard for these patients to gain weight too!
Yes I was a little annoyed with him..I was only 34 and not long had a baby 3 months previous
I think I may well have... such restraint!
That's exactly it in my view. People who need to put on weight are victims of some kind in the eyes of dieticians. Why can't they see that obese people are no different, there's a reason they are obese, no one sets out to be obese, just as no one sets out to get cancer etc.
Oh most definitely! Overweight and obese people are generally considered by HCPs and indeed media and general public to be greedy, idle, junk food gobbling liars. I do wonder sometimes if they ever have to complete regular Continuing Professional Development training. Surely that is a requirement for all HCPs. They have to keep a portfolio of training and development they have undertaken. What on earth do dietitians post qualification courses teach? Of course their are forward thinking members of the profession, but it seems all NHS care is now reduced to the 'tick box' guidleine protocol, that it is difficult to break away from.
Anesthesia is calculated by weight, and its more difficult to calculate the anesthetic need in bigger people, especially when adjusting for the overall fat content, which absorbs the anesthetic differently . Due to breathing issues, anesthetizing bigger people and smokers is more risky, as is the risk of post-op embolism higher.
Wish we had audio posting so I could hear that!
