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Binge Eating And Fasting

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Angelofthemarches

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Type 2
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I have chronic fatigue syndrome as well as type 2 diabetes (lucky me!)
So I eat pk most of the time. I also try to keep as long an overnight fast as possible.
I really like Dr Fungs work but feel that longer fasts are not great for me due to my binge eating history.
Whenever I try them I just trigger binges.
Anyone else had this experience??
 
I think that having multiple conditions is more challenging at times. I would love to try fasting but I can't so I just have to accept that as an individual I must do the best I can with the choices I have.
Fasting may work for your T2 but it may not work for your CFS/ME and/or your binge disorder so you may be forced to pick your way carefully around these conditions until you find a comfortable and sustainable method that works for you. Good luck.
 
Guzzler said:
I think that having multiple conditions is more challenging at times. I would love to try fasting but I can't so I just have to accept that as an individual I must do the best I can with the choices I have.
Fasting may work for your T2 but it may not work for your CFS/ME and/or your binge disorder so you may be forced to pick your way carefully around these conditions until you find a comfortable and sustainable method that works for you. Good luck.
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Thankyou so much! I was getting so frustrated about it! My keto lifestyle went fine as long as I keep to 3 regular meals. Otherwise my eating disorder starts to rear its head, even though keto does curb cravings..
 
Angelofthemarches said:
Thankyou so much! I was getting so frustrated about it! My keto lifestyle went fine as long as I keep to 3 regular meals. Otherwise my eating disorder starts to rear its head, even though keto does curb cravings..
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We hear it all the time here but it is worth repeating that One Size Does Not Fit All. Keep up the good work.
 
I agree with all you say as soon as I say I must be careful what I'm eating I've put on a few pounds all the bad habits rear their ugly heads I have to fix on eating sensibly I wish I could stop thinking of food all the time
 
I've started going to overeaters anonymous online meetings - I can do just 30 minutes a day from home if I want and this has helped me stay keto for the last month. I still can't seem to do fasting without triggering severe cravings.
 
You are doing well and by addressing the problems head on which is the first and hardest step to take. Keep it up, we're all there with you.
 
Angelofthemarches said:
I've started going to overeaters anonymous online meetings - I can do just 30 minutes a day from home if I want and this has helped me stay keto for the last month. I still can't seem to do fasting without triggering severe cravings.
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you really, truly dont have to do fasting. If it doesnt work for you, dont do it. Work with your body and mind. Best wishes, Lucy.
 
I avoid fasting for the very same reason, it's also why I don't extreme low carb, I know they would trigger my binge and purge cycle, we are all so much more than the sum of our parts and we have to treat ourselves the best way for us :) it's your diabetes no one else's and you deal with it the best way you can, that's all you can ask of yourself :)
 
lovinglife said:
I avoid fasting for the very same reason, it's also why I don't extreme low carb, I know they would trigger my binge and purge cycle, we are all so much more than the sum of our parts and we have to treat ourselves the best way for us :) it's your diabetes no one else's and you deal with it the best way you can, that's all you can ask of yourself :)
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I feel such a wimp when everyone goes on these extended fasts! I just have to miss breakfast and my brain goes!!
 
During the first stage of diagnosis, it is worth trying eating smaller meals more often, especially if you intend to cut down on carbs drastically.
You do not need to fast, it is what it is!
I wish I could eat like I used to, but fate has dealt me with a condition, where not eating can be healthier than eating some days. Go figure.
I have learned that it is food, that has a direct influence on how I feel, it effects my health and my life, especially with mental function.
I have found my balance of what to eat, it's not much and I use intermittent fasting to solve a lot of my intolerance problems. I have to get on with it!
If you face the situation with a plan lot action, with a resolve to have control, you will not be calling yourself anything. It is a big step in your health. For your health sake, do what you have to!

Best wishes.
 
Angelofthemarches said:
I feel such a wimp when everyone goes on these extended fasts! I just have to miss breakfast and my brain goes!!
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Heavens no! Don't think that!

The only time I have done extended fasting was when I was ill with gutrot - and believe me, food was the last thing I wanted. Heck, even drinking was done reluctantly.

My body loathes extended fasting, and I have no intention of pushing it past its bearable zone into flagellation and martyred suffering. Total waste of time and effort. ;)

I do find that missing breakfast feels perfectly normal to me.
And on a quiet day, I sometimes forget lunch.
but the key thing for both of them is that it isn't forced.

And don't be impressed by the ones who do weeks on end of fasting. I mean, yes, it may work for them, but they all go on about how little hunger they feel, and how energised, and whatever. They all trot about doing pressups and brisk walking and so on. That's great. I'm absolutely certain they wouldn't be doing that if they felt like I do without food - a bear with a sore head, the patience of a daemon, and the energy level of limp dishrag. I have trouble walking up a single flight of stairs in that state!
 
Brunneria said:
Heavens no! Don't think that!

The only time I have done extended fasting was when I was ill with gutrot - and believe me, food was the last thing I wanted. Heck, even drinking was done reluctantly.

My body loathes extended fasting, and I have no intention of pushing it past its bearable zone into flagellation and martyred suffering. Total waste of time and effort. ;)

I do find that missing breakfast feels perfectly normal to me.
And on a quiet day, I sometimes forget lunch.
but the key thing for both of them is that it isn't forced.

And don't be impressed by the ones who do weeks on end of fasting. I mean, yes, it may work for them, but they all go on about how little hunger they feel, and how energised, and whatever. They all trot about doing pressups and brisk walking and so on. That's great. I'm absolutely certain they wouldn't be doing that if they felt like I do without food - a bear with a sore head, the patience of a daemon, and the energy level of limp dishrag. I have trouble walking up a single flight of stairs in that state!
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Well said. We are individuals and must not succumb to forcing ourselves past endurance.
 
Trouble is I have chronic fatigue syndrome so would be unlikely to join any tough mudder events! Have been low carbing for the last 2 years since diagnosis and its fine. Interestingly the keto way of eating is also recommended for cfs.
 
Angelofthemarches said:
Thankyou so much! I was getting so frustrated about it! My keto lifestyle went fine as long as I keep to 3 regular meals. Otherwise my eating disorder starts to rear its head, even though keto does curb cravings..
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Hi @Angelofthemarches you don't have to get frustrated because you don't fast. As mentioned we are all different and we should eat and do things that help us with our conditions. If you are doing Keto and having your 3 meals a day and it stops you binge eating then that's the one for you!:happy:
 
Angelofthemarches said:
I feel such a wimp when everyone goes on these extended fasts! I just have to miss breakfast and my brain goes!!
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I do not go on extended fasts, many of us on here do not. I have had the very occasional 25 hour fast, but that is all. Doing a fast does not make you whatever the opposite of a wimp is.
 
Having done a couple of 4-5 day fast, I think the issue of hunger is really dependent on how fast we are able to bring up our ketones level to adequately satisfy our brain. Usually it takes 2-3 days of fasting for all the enzymes etc to upregulate....

Here is the fasting chart for a healthy individual. But we may be highly insulin resistant and that drop in glucose during the switchover is extremely difficult and trying for some of us.
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That was when I found bulletproof coffee to be extremely helpful.

We really cannot win against our hormones. We need to find out where the shortfall may be and fill the gap.
 
I think, maybe, the act of not eating can trigger all sorts of emotional issues in those with an eating disorder, regardless of hunger levels at the time.
 
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