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Hba1c 130

mscdb63

Newbie
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi, ive been diagnosed t2 for 2 years. Various meds have been tried. I was given a pump Trulicity 3 months ago and was told this was my last opportunity then it would be insulin.

Trulicity made me very ill so I am now just on 320 mg of Gliclazide daily.

I do not want to take insulin but my daily checks go between 16 to 26 and my last HBa1C was 130!

has anyone every been in my situation and can give me some advice please.

Not feeling dreadful but know what damage I am doing to my body.

Thanks

Charlie
 
Hi, ive been diagnosed t2 for 2 years. Various meds have been tried. I was given a pump Trulicity 3 months ago and was told this was my last opportunity then it would be insulin.

Trulicity made me very ill so I am now just on 320 mg of Gliclazide daily.

I do not want to take insulin but my daily checks go between 16 to 26 and my last HBa1C was 130!

has anyone every been in my situation and can give me some advice please.

Not feeling dreadful but know what damage I am doing to my body.

Thanks

Charlie
Calling @daisy1 for the welcome pack. Welcome to the forum. What are you eating in a typical day?
 
Hello and welcome to the forum. Tagging @daisy1 for the brilliant info pack offered to all newcomers.

Sorry, I can't offer any advice on your treatment but was wondering if you have ever tried a dietary approach? Other members will have more info for you and in the meantime why not have a wander around the forum and ask as many questions as you like.
 
Hi, ive been diagnosed t2 for 2 years. Various meds have been tried. I was given a pump Trulicity 3 months ago and was told this was my last opportunity then it would be insulin.

Trulicity made me very ill so I am now just on 320 mg of Gliclazide daily.

I do not want to take insulin but my daily checks go between 16 to 26 and my last HBa1C was 130!

has anyone every been in my situation and can give me some advice please.

Not feeling dreadful but know what damage I am doing to my body.

Thanks

Charlie

Charlie - Could I ask you how you have approached your diabetes in the two years you've been diagnosed. You have obviously tried various meds, with the prospect of insulin next. Along the way have you modified your diet at all, and if so, what are you eating and drinking these days?

I've been fortunate enough not to need any medication for my T2, but I did find when I started testng my bloods that my diet had a massive impact on my blood sugars. I also ended up losing weight along the way, but that was never a big goal for me. It all seemed to help though.

A bit of additional context for us would be helpful.
 
There's nothing wrong with taking insulin if it gets your BG under control. Is your GP 100% sure you are T2 and not late onset T1? T2 should be controllable with diet but T1 will always need insulin.
 
Hi, ive been diagnosed t2 for 2 years. Various meds have been tried. I was given a pump Trulicity 3 months ago and was told this was my last opportunity then it would be insulin.

Trulicity made me very ill so I am now just on 320 mg of Gliclazide daily.

I do not want to take insulin but my daily checks go between 16 to 26 and my last HBa1C was 130!

has anyone every been in my situation and can give me some advice please.

Not feeling dreadful but know what damage I am doing to my body.

Thanks

Charlie
Hey Charlie,

You only mention meds here... In T2, diet can make all the difference. The more I read here, the more I realise I would've been put straight on insulin if I hadn't been diagnosed right when everyone was on holiday at the GP's and the hospital. Took months to see a dietician, and by then I'd already sorted my diet out; my HbA1c was low enough to stop the gliclazide and the statins got nixed too. If your diagnosis is correct and you're not a late onset T1... It could be worth looking into. On low carb/high fat I got my HbA1c down to normal levels. I took it a step further a few months ago and started on keto/intermittent fasting, and my HbA1c is now that of a solid non-diabetic. No meds. Not for diabetes and cholesterol anyway. The thing is, with our wonky insulin production and insulin resistance, we can't process carbs like we should... Every carb turns into glucose once ingested, and we can't process them back out. So not or barely eating them in the first place... It works. Well, did for me anyway, and a load of people here. Some prefer or still need meds and/or insulin, but... It may be worth a shot.
Good luck!
 
Hi, ive been diagnosed t2 for 2 years. Various meds have been tried. I was given a pump Trulicity 3 months ago and was told this was my last opportunity then it would be insulin.

Trulicity made me very ill so I am now just on 320 mg of Gliclazide daily.

I do not want to take insulin but my daily checks go between 16 to 26 and my last HBa1C was 130!

has anyone every been in my situation and can give me some advice please.

Not feeling dreadful but know what damage I am doing to my body.

Thanks

Charlie

Been there, done that.........sometimes we just have to admit some of us t2's need to go on insulin as we are non-producers or have restricted production, I'm a non producer so have been on it now for mumble mumble years and feeling fine, its not that bad honestly, your not a failure if you need it so no need to feel guilty because others can do what we can't, accept it can help and you'll be fine.......good luck......:)
 
Hi. My thoughts. You are either T1 and not T2 or you have a high BMI with very high insulin resistance. Taking 320mg of Gliclazide (as I did for a few years) but still having a high HBa1C implies your beta cells may not be producing much insulin. If so, you do need insulin. It's not a problem and I was glad to move from the complete set of tablets onto insulin. I've been able to eat more flexibly and have a good HBA1C as long as I keep the carbs down. Are you low-carbing? If not you need to start. Be aware that Gliclazide stimulates any remaining beta cells to produce insulin. If you eat too many carbs the body will use the insulin to metabolise those carbs and you will gain weight and enter a vicious circle.
 
@mscdb63

Hello Charlie and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions when you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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