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Type 2 New to Metformin.....

Alivinstone

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Hi - I have just been diagnosed as Type 2 with an HCA1B reading of 49 and yesterday started Metformin. As a 93kg, 49 year old man. I have a a couple of quick questions:

1. What would be acceptable blood sugar readings?
2. My BGM also measures HCT - what do I need to do if this is low (35-40%).

Thanks

Alex
 
Hi Alex and welcome to the Forum.
First I’ll tag in @daisy1 for her useful info post.
Next here’s an info page on blood sugar levels:
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood-sugar-level-ranges.html
I have to say I’m surprised you’ve been started on meds straight away as with an HbA1c of 49 you are only just into the diabetic range. Many people here have managed to control their diabetes with diet only from that level. Have you been given any guidance on diet? I’m not familiar with a meter that measures HCT as well, hopefullysomeone else will be able to answer that one. Have a read around the forum and ask any questions that occur to you, there’s always someone with an answer.
 
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Hi - I have just been diagnosed as Type 2 with an HCA1B reading of 49 and yesterday started Metformin. As a 93kg, 49 year old man. I have a a couple of quick questions:

1. What would be acceptable blood sugar readings?
2. My BGM also measures HCT - what do I need to do if this is low (35-40%).

Thanks

Alex
Hi @Alivinstone , and welcome,

Like Rachox, I'm a little surprised you were put straight on metformin. You're just barely in the diabetic range. Did your doc mention a dietician or anything? Practically all carbs are turned to glucose once ingested, and with your numbers, a relatively small change in how/what you eat could have a big impact on your numbers. Cutting down or cutting out straight sugars as well as starches and the like could get you back into the non-diabetic range. And if you are slightly anaemic, your HbA1c might be a little off as well, -with anemia a HbA1c isn't usually exacty accurate- so you might want to tackle that too, with iron supplements, spinach, red meat etc, and re-test in a few months. With the numbers you mention you should be able to tackle this with diet alone, IF you want to, of course. Discuss it with your doc, see if he's okay with you trying the diet route for a few months, see whether that gets your numbers down to non-diabetic levels. (You'd still be diabetic, but no complications nor progression of the condition) Low Carb, High Fat would help greatly. But keep in mind this is a lifelong diet, so more of a lifestyle change than a quick fix. (It would also make you lose weight. But be sure to up the fats and protein, as when you cut carbs, you'll need to up the other 2 macronutrients to not become malnourished. And still feel full..) Check dietdoctor.com for meal ideas, but basically, cut down on or eliminate potatoes, cereal, pasta, rice, corn, and bread (or anything made with regular flour, basically), fruit too, save for berries, avocado's and tomatoes. Meals could be eggs with bacon, cheese, mushrooms, tomatoes, high meat content sausages... Tuna salad for lunch with olives, capers, mayo, avocado? Or a salad with slightly warmed goat's cheese and a little vinaigrette? Dinner could be meat, fish or poultry with above-ground veggies. I usually go for cauliflower rice (which is quite versatile) or broccoli. Adding cheese and bacon to make it a more filling meal. For snacks, go for nuts, cheese, extra dark chocolate (Lindt 85% is great!), pork scratchings... Think it over, have a read on the site, see what you want to do and fits your life best. Just keep in mind, you're barely over the diabetic threshhold... You can easily get a grip on this without meds. (And if you go medication only, T2 is usually a progressive disease. With diet addd to the mix, or even diet only... You could avoid progression and complications all together.)

Good luck, and happy holidays!
Jo
 
@Alivinstone
Hello Alex and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it interesting and useful.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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