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How much protein a day?

SlimLizzy

SlimLizzy

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Am using an App to track carbs and calories. This week have noticed the the fat is over allowance (as expected) carbs are under, (again expected) but apparently not had enough protein on any of the days this week.
Could this be the cause of my persistant weightloss?
and if so, how do I get more of it? Am already eating eggs, meat, cheese, nuts, yoghurt, fish. Seems to me that should be plenty.

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Which app and what macros have you entered?. they all seem to have quite individual ideas about what should or should not be the best amounts.
 
SlimLizzy said:
Could this be the cause of my persistant weightloss?
and if so, how do I get more of it? Am already eating eggs, meat, cheese, nuts, yoghurt, fish. Seems to me that should be plenty.
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You have got all the bases covered, eating larger / extra portions ought to do the trick.
 
Have been checking - NHS seems to think 50g per day is adequate, and it does average out around there.
using MyNetDiary. Not usally entering nutritional values as it fill those in for most foods.
The ap is insisting on another 67g on a day when 68g consumed. So confused.
 
SlimLizzy said:
Have been checking - NHS seems to think 50g per day is adequate, and it does average out around there.
using MyNetDiary. Not usally entering nutritional values as it fill those in for most foods.
The ap is insisting on another 67g on a day when 68g consumed. So confused.
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I've averaged 125g daily this year. Sounds like yours may be a bit low but between 0.8 and 1.5g per kilo of lean body weight is usually the recommendation on a keto diet. If I'm right and you want to gain then I'm guessing the top end of that would be better for you.
 
bulkbiker said:
I've averaged 125g daily this year. Sounds like yours may be a bit low but between 0.8 and 1.5g per kilo of lean body weight is usually the recommendation on a keto diet. If I'm right and you want to gain then I'm guessing the top end of that would be better for you.
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Not on keto, low(ish ) carb, around 100g a day.
48. 6kg currently. So around 73g protein?
 
You could try doing some chicken thighs for snacks @SlimLizzy . You wouldn't have to eat a hole thigh at a time, but you could shred it, or whatever you wanted do. If you cook with skin on, you also get some bonus fat calories thrown in.

Have you considered adding, say a starter to meals?

Alternatively, just add a bit more protein to each meal - larger portions/chops/steak/whatever. When I have been trying to gain weight, I look upon it as a job of work, not a gastronomic experience. I'm currently in this phase now, but only for a couple of kilos. It'll still take a little while to achieve it.
 
In my opinion 60-70g is adequate for your body weight, and you may find that arbitrarily adding more will contribute to your glucose load, although that will largely depend on your current insulin sensitivity. As you’re in the prediabetes range I’d like to think that you probably wouldn’t see a measurable gain in that regard, but of course that doesn’t mean that the extra protein wouldn’t be requiring extra insulin in order to process, which in my view would be suboptimal.

I would also completely ignore NHS guidelines with regard to macronutrient composition. They’re a work of fiction.
 
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You could try doing some chicken thighs for snacks @SlimLizzy . You wouldn't have to eat a hole thigh at a time, but you could shred it, or whatever you wanted do. If you cook with skin on, you also get some bonus fat calories thrown in.

Have you considered adding, say a starter to meals?

Alternatively, just add a bit more protein to each meal - larger portions/chops/steak/whatever. When I have been trying to gain weight, I look upon it as a job of work, not a gastronomic experience. I'm currently in this phase now, but only for a couple of kilos. It'll still take a little while to achieve it.
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Does seem like work. Currently the work is to stop the slide. Still seem to be losing about 400g/ pound a week.
Am wondering what would happen if I followed advice "eat to appetite" am fairly sure it woud be dramatic weight loss.
 
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@SlimLizzy - you could add in a carb-free supper, or very LC hot chocolate supper. If I recall, @Brunneria makes it with quality cocoa powder, cream and some water.

On days you are active, have something fatty at your lowest (blood glucose) time of the day?

I notice you sometimes like a glass of vino. Do you like Bailey's or similar creamy drinks? There are some excellent LC alternatives to those, on t'internet that surely pack in the calories.
 
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@SlimLizzy - you could add in a carb-free supper, or very LC hot chocolate supper. If I recall, @Brunneria makes it with quality cocoa powder, cream and some water.

On days you are active, have something fatty at your lowest (blood glucose) time of the day?

I notice you sometimes like a glass of vino. Do you like Bailey's or similar creamy drinks? There are some excellent LC alternatives to those, on t'internet that surely pack in the calories.
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Some nights have a chunk of cheese, or handful of nuts, if needed to make up calories. Other times feeling stuffed - sod it, not eating any more. Last week, big effort managed to hit target calories for last 8 days. Still losing though. Target shifts to take account of any exercise logged, so it varies with amount of activity.
Do like a Baileys, excellent idea.
The version of hot chocolate you mentioned above is worth trying. Last time made it with no sugar added pure chocolate drops and milk, one teaspoon of sugar, but that caused a real BG high.
 
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SlimLizzy said:
Do like a Baileys, excellent idea.
and the hot chocolate version you mentioned above is worth trying. Last time made it with no sugar added pure chocolate drops and milk, one half teaspoon of sugar, but that caused a real BG high.
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I know @maglil55 made some very successful LC Bailey's at Christmas time. Personally, I think it's vile, so I paid didn't pay enough attention to her process to remember it. Hopefully she might remember
 
In the days when I counted my nutrients I was eating about 90g to100g a day. Protein is soooooo important for healthy bodies, repair to muscles and all other cells, especially as we age. Hand on heart, I can say it has made no difference to my BS levels nor my fasting levels. I do appreciate that we are all different.

When I needed to stop losing weight I increased my fats which mainly but not exclusively came from protein sources such as cheese and eggs. It worked for me. Other than that I have never made any conscious effort to increase or decrease my protein., which is normally about the same level I have always eaten. It includes red meat, plenty of fish especially salmon, chicken and dairy. I don't eat nuts because they make me sick.
 
SlimLizzy said:
Does seem like work. Currently the work is to stop the slide. Still seem to be losing about 400g/ pound a week.
Am wondering what would happen if I followed advice "eat to appetite" am fairly sure it woud be dramatic weight loss.
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Has your GP ruled out, through tests etc, any other cause of your weight loss?
 
lucylocket61 said:
Has your GP ruled out, through tests etc, any other cause of your weight loss?
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he did thyroid function test and chest xray. Am told all results are normal - but this is the doctors practice that didn't inform my husband his kidneys were failing...Am not really reasurred. Have decided to ask for print out of test results.
 
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