Type 2 Contingency food

[lucylocket61]

It’s a strange one. My trainer drove me there as we live quite close. Got there 4.30 and meeting started at 6.
I had hot chocolate then at 5 when we got into room I had my dinner (I took Chechen salad). I then had Grenada bar through the meeting and gallons of water.

I then had banana before we left as was shattered.

Got home then had another hot choc.

I find that carbs make me tired, and when i am already tired, they make me overtired and hungry. I dont know why, but they do.

I am not familiar with chechen salad, but the recipe looks like it has carbs in, the hot chocolate, granola bar and banana are high carb too. Protein fills me up better and keeps the hunger at bay, especially with some fats like full fat cheese, eggs and full fat mayo, slices of ham with mayo wrapped in lettuce leaves, or something similar.

 

[woollygal]

I find that carbs make me tired, and when i am already tired, they make me overtired and hungry. I dont know why, but they do.

I am not familiar with chechen salad, but the recipe looks like it has carbs in, the hot chocolate, granola bar and banana are high carb too. Protein fills me up better and keeps the hunger at bay, especially with some fats like full fat cheese, eggs and full fat mayo, slices of ham with mayo wrapped in lettuce leaves, or something similar.

It was chicken salad and other than a bit of dressing which I’ve tested it was carb free.

My duet that day was exactly the same as usual bar the banana. The hot chocolate doesn’t do anything as it’s low carb and tested.

I had the usual carbs I always have which is limited.

The grenade bar is low carb and high protein.

So it wasn’t a high carb day.

It was just a very long day then a very bad sleep

 

[woollygal]

So, effectively you had plenty to eat yesterday?

I'd say your best bet on a day like today would be to fuel up well in the morning - whatever your chosen hefty breakfast might be, with coffee with cream, or the like.

Personally, I don't enjoy cream in coffee, so I'd not have that, but personally, where I usually have a decent dollop of Greek yoghurt with some of my beloved stewed rhubarb to get me started, if I thought I was going to flag a bit, I might just add a dollop of cream to it, so that any lack of get up aand go was certainly not going to be hunger.

With a decent level of fat, I'd be very unlikely to be hungry, or even interested in food.

Have you had any carb cravings/grumbling from the banana?

I did fuel up yesterday. Had a far bigger breakfast than normal, mo more carbs but more bacon etc.

No more grumbling than normal.

If anything sugars have been slightly higher than normal but not stupidly high. Just when I would think they would be 5s they are 6 or 7. Feel like I just need to get to weekend and press the reset button.

I haven’t been this busy at work since diagnosis, I cut back on hours but now am trying to go back to longer hours etc. Fir the most part I’m
Coping but Tuesday was obviously an extraordinary day. I have another day like that on the 14th so want to prepare for it so I don’t suffer all week.

Even my grenade bars that I tested and was fine on seem to be reacting different.

It’s also time of month due but not arrived so don’t know if it’s just a badly timed rubbish week etc. But if I want to get back to doing what I used to do I need to be able to cope with long days.

 

[lucylocket61]

It was chicken salad and other than a bit of dressing which I’ve tested it was carb free.

My duet that day was exactly the same as usual bar the banana. The hot chocolate doesn’t do anything as it’s low carb and tested.

I had the usual carbs I always have which is limited.

The grenade bar is low carb and high protein.

So it wasn’t a high carb day.

It was just a very long day then a very bad sleep

I am not saying ti was a high carb day. I am saying that carbs may not be good as a contingency, and protein and fats are the way to go, in answer to your original question.

 

[woollygal]

I am not saying ti was a high carb day. I am saying that carbs may not be good as a contingency, and protein and fats are the way to go, in answer to your original question.

I agree.
That’s why I asked the question because I just didn’t know what to do to cope with feeling that lousy

 

[HSSS]

Being over tired always makes my numbers a bit higher. So every food looks worse on those shattered days. I maintain you cannot eat your way out of lack of sleep.

 

[DCUKMod]

I did fuel up yesterday. Had a far bigger breakfast than normal, mo more carbs but more bacon etc.

No more grumbling than normal.

If anything sugars have been slightly higher than normal but not stupidly high. Just when I would think they would be 5s they are 6 or 7. Feel like I just need to get to weekend and press the reset button.

I haven’t been this busy at work since diagnosis, I cut back on hours but now am trying to go back to longer hours etc. Fir the most part I’m
Coping but Tuesday was obviously an extraordinary day. I have another day like that on the 14th so want to prepare for it so I don’t suffer all week.

Even my grenade bars that I tested and was fine on seem to be reacting different.

It’s also time of month due but not arrived so don’t know if it’s just a badly timed rubbish week etc. But if I want to get back to doing what I used to do I need to be able to cope with long days.

Maybe I wasn't clear, I meant adding some additional fuel this morning, to ensure plenty fuel on board, when feeling (fatigue) empty. With protein and fats it just takes a bit longer to go from eating to energy.

Your hormones may not be helping either.

It'll be good if you can be nicely low carb at the weekend to reset, as you imply.

It's a marathon, not a sprint.

 

[Daphne917]

I had a work thing that meant I didn’t get home till 9.45pm. Had hot choc then in bed by 10.30 but just didn’t sleep.

Woke up at 1 and legs were burning then itching then arms etc, then hungry and was just tossing and turning. Eventually slept by about 2.30 but then woke up at 5. So with the very long day the day before (left house 07.00 and got home 9.45) then the bad sleep I was done in.

I don’t think food was the issue, I just needed energy to get through the day and other than food don’t know how to get it.

I git through the day but it wasn’t my best performance.

So it was long day then lack of sleep but that’s life and I will have more long days like that as I do those meetings at least 2 in a quarter. So i just need to learn how to deal with needing more energy and not being able to get it from food.

@Cana it could be that the long day meant you didn’t have time to relax and you were still in ‘work’ mode and thinking about it. I’ve recently been working some long days - getting up at 5.20, leaving home at 6.30 and not getting back until 7.45 and found that by the time I’d had tea and tidied up etc it was time for bed - cue restless night. I also have a couple of afternoon meetings each month that, for want of a better expression, go on a bit (4-5 hrs). I find that when we break halfway through if I have a drink and a protein bar I’m ok particularly as I have an hours drive home after the meetings.

 

[woollygal]

Maybe I wasn't clear, I meant adding some additional fuel this morning, to ensure plenty fuel on board, when feeling (fatigue) empty. With protein and fats it just takes a bit longer to go from eating to energy.

Your hormones may not be helping either.

It'll be good if you can be nicely low carb at the weekend to reset, as you imply.

It's a marathon, not a sprint.

Hi yes that’s what I meant too. Had more bacon and eggs this morning. Took more sausages to work and cheese etc.
Slowly things have improved.
Thursday much better as had lovely sleep Wednesday, but still not as good as normal. Yesterday better still. Sugars going back into the 5s.

I’m quite proud of myself because I did keep pretty much to my good eating (one or two mishaps but controlled them so small).

I just need to get to where my recovery is quicker, so one bad nights sleep doesn’t nearly finish me off and then take another 3 days to get things back to even keel.

It’s almost like once my sugars start swinging more erratically I can’t stop them till I don’t have anything to do and can just not eat carbs and force them back into shape.

I need to learn that bit.

But I am learning that I don’t think food was the issue. Sugars are but that isn’t necessarily food.

 

[woollygal]

@Cana it could be that the long day meant you didn’t have time to relax and you were still in ‘work’ mode and thinking about it. I’ve recently been working some long days - getting up at 5.20, leaving home at 6.30 and not getting back until 7.45 and found that by the time I’d had tea and tidied up etc it was time for bed - cue restless night. I also have a couple of afternoon meetings each month that, for want of a better expression, go on a bit (4-5 hrs). I find that when we break halfway through if I have a drink and a protein bar I’m ok particularly as I have an hours drive home after the meetings.

Yea I think it was.
I never sleep well after those. I need to go to bed later to chill but I’m so tired I fall asleep on sofa so might as well be comfy in bed. But yes, think it’s the chill time.

I’d use to have caffeine but that just makes the viscious circle even more viscious so can’t have that.

I’ll work it out. Just need to do it quickly so it doesn’t finish me off as quick

 

[DCUKMod]

Hi yes that’s what I meant too. Had more bacon and eggs this morning. Took more sausages to work and cheese etc.
Slowly things have improved.
Thursday much better as had lovely sleep Wednesday, but still not as good as normal. Yesterday better still. Sugars going back into the 5s.

I’m quite proud of myself because I did keep pretty much to my good eating (one or two mishaps but controlled them so small).

I just need to get to where my recovery is quicker, so one bad nights sleep doesn’t nearly finish me off and then take another 3 days to get things back to even keel.

It’s almost like once my sugars start swinging more erratically I can’t stop them till I don’t have anything to do and can just not eat carbs and force them back into shape.

I need to learn that bit.

But I am learning that I don’t think food was the issue. Sugars are but that isn’t necessarily food.

I think you're probably in that place where your body is still looking to go back to the old (undersirable) comfort zone, whereas you are trying to train your body to deal with a different style of fuelling. For a little while, when you get a bit off-kilter, with routine, sleep, food or whatever, your body will taunt you, but please trust me, it passes.

Now if I know I have a really challenging day coming up, I look on it as pre-fuelling. As the proteins and fats take a bit longer to go from deliciousness on a plate to get up and go, I need to get it inside me a bit earlier than "in the moment".

Like all things diabetes related, we all react in a personalised way, so we do have to do those hard yards for ourselves.

You're getting there. Really you are.

 

[Steveg1]

I have a rocket fuel coffee and kale red onion omelette keeps me going all day while working I’m usually low by tea time

 

[jjraak]

Hi @Cana

I hear that ..i started off cutting back at work..too tired, etc to finish a long day.
recovery came first.

Now i'm feeling better in myself (^ months on ) i do longer hours.

the carby stuff, not at the time but later really seems to hit me, and i get almost instantly tired,
then when home and try to rest up..can't for reasons you said..(minus the hormone one )

a good point made, not picked up i think, was a cool box.

think if i did a driving job where on the road a lot AND had space in the car or boot, a Cool box filled with some LC goodies that need a fridge..(love my foods COLD... if they are meant to be Cold..hate, hate warm, slimy cheese :***: )
would be on my MUST BUY list.

 

[Chook]

Hi @Cana

I hear that ..i started off cutting back at work..too tired, etc to finish a long day.
recovery came first.

Now i'm feeling better in myself (^ months on ) i do longer hours.

the carby stuff, not at the time but later really seems to hit me, and i get almost instantly tired,
then when home and try to rest up..can't for reasons you said..(minus the hormone one )

a good point made, not picked up i think, was a cool box.

think if i did a driving job where on the road a lot AND had space in the car or boot, a Cool box filled with some LC goodies that need a fridge..(love my foods COLD... if they are meant to be Cold..hate, hate warm, slimy cheese :***: )
would be on my MUST BUY list.

I got a very useful mini cool bag from my local pound shop for the same reason.