T2s: What was your fasting BG this morning, and what did you eat yesterday?

[Prem51]

I still can't seem to get out of the 5's and 6's, which isn't boding well for my hopes to be able to control with diet and exercise alone.

@Adm_Mad 5s and 6s are good. Anything between 4-7 is ok for T2s. You are doing well.

 

[Adm_Mad]

@Prem51 For non insulin and non medicating T2’s isn’t the goal to be as close to non diabetic levels as possible ie under five point something? The 4-7 range is for managing with insulin or medication?

 

[Venkat K]

Saturday 11/05/2019
FBG(06:30) 4.1 (After 84 hours fasting)
Ketones 1.5
Total Weight loss 1.7 Kg

18:00 Blood sugars 4.4 (After 4 days liquid fasting)
18:00 Bone Broth - Broke the fasting
Full day working in Garden
Fitbit Steps By end of day 14500

Sunday 12/05/2019
FBG(06:50) 4.7

 

[Venkat K]

Sunday 12/05/2019

07:45 Breakfast Two boiled Eggs, Berries Smoothie

13:15 Lunch- Cauliflower Rice, Salad, Papad
Oven Cooked Sweet Potato, Carrots
Chicken cooked with spinach

20:30 Blood Sugar 6.8
20:30 Dinner- 40Grams of Cauliflower rice
Very Little chicken left over

Busy doing gardening and other stuff

Fitbit steps 14500 by end of day

Monday 13/05/2019
FGB(06:15) - 6.7

 

[Shas3]

@Prem51 For non insulin and non medicating T2’s isn’t the goal to be as close to non diabetic levels as possible ie under five point something? The 4-7 range is for managing with insulin or medication?

Fasting reading of 5s IS close to normal... even for non diabetics. Or am I getting it wrong? I usually go by the US numbers (mg / dl) and below 110 (though ideally below 100) at fasting would be considered ok. Anyway good luck and hopefully you reach your target soon. I noticed last few days I included apple cider vinegar in my salads at dinner and it seems to have had a definite impact on my morning numbers. Not drinking a lot, just using it in dressing ... Olive oil + Apple cider vinegar...

 

[1spuds]

0700-FBG after 9 hr fast-4.83
0710-green tea
0830-2 sausage patty,1 egg,tomato
1315-2 slices Fathead pizza
2000-steak with mushroom and onions sauteed in butter.Broccoli and zucchini,steamed and with butter
2020-2 small clementines
2230-BG-5.77

0630-FBG after 10 hours fast,hopefully fast until 1000-4.94

Looking to progress to next step 3 meals a day in 8 hour window and 16 hr fasts.Weight has plateaued around 217-216 lbs.Reading that it may be related to protein and increasing muscle mass while losing fat...so I added abdominal girth to my measurements and also ordered some urine ketone strips to see if I ever made ketosis.

 

[1spuds]

@Prem51 For non insulin and non medicating T2’s isn’t the goal to be as close to non diabetic levels as possible ie under five point something? The 4-7 range is for managing with insulin or medication?

You are doing very very well in just a very short time.Youve only started,wait and see what a bit more time does,I think you are going to be very pleased.
For some,a 4 is possible.Others 5,still others 6 and 7.A lot depends on our own bodies,we are all at different levels.
I was eating corn,and my 2 hr post meal BG was pretty darn good.I decided to see if stopping it would matter and it dropped my fasting sugars 5-10 points.So it might be you have 1 food or so that is holding you up.IDK,just what happened to me.I will still eat corn,like corn tortillas for taco,but now its only an occasional thing,not a daily.Sooo....it was say hello to green beans,much better sugars and still mighty tasty!

 

[Venkat K]

Also,here is a 6 hour course broken into 6 segments.Its the best thing Ive ever seen to educate yourself on diabetes and obesity.This man nails it with good science and not agenda.

I have watched 1.5 hours of first two videos and i agree it is worth watching.

 

[enb54]

May 13
FBG 5.6 at 0830, food yesterday was;

Breakfast: 3/4 cup honey nut cheerios w/2% milk, black tea, 500 mg metformin
Lunch: Boston Pizza "Royal" (individual size) and 1 pint "Rickards Red"
Dinner: stir fried shrimp, bean sprouts, onions, carrots and snap peas, glass of red wine, black tea (forgot to take metformin)
Snack: 2 beef pepperoni sausages, 2 glasses rum w/diet Pepsi

 

[Deleted member 371625]

Monday 13/5
FBG (05:30) 4.0
Breakfast 1 (5.30am): Porridge (almond milk), plum, blackcurrants, pecans {270 Cal / 36.6g Carbs}
….………………………...….2 mile run
……………………………….7 x 500m [sprints, 1 minute rests] on rowing machine
Breakfast 2 (8.30am): Mackerel (in tomato sauce), toast (one slice, sourdough) {303 Cal / 17.4g Carbs}

Lunch (12pm): Mushroom & fennel soup {85 Cal / 2.8g Carbs}
Chicken, fig, avocado & hummus salad {375 Cal / 16.8g Carbs}
Peach, blackberries, yoghurt, cashews {118 Cal / 12.0g Carbs}

Dinner (6pm): Rabbit stew, celeriac mash, carrots, green beans, red cabbage {411 Cal / 39.6g Carbs}
Rhubarb with macadamia & pecan crumble, ice cream {279 Cal / 31.3g Carbs}

4 cups of coffee (2 decaf)

Calories 1920
Carbs 167.3g
Protein 121.2g
Fat 73.1g (Sat Fat 16.7g / Trans fats 0.7g)

All food cooked from scratch, if you would like any recipes please just ask

 

[Shas3]

5.7 @ 4:00 AM before DP kicked in... 6.2 by 6:30 before breakfast.... 6.9 last night...

Dinner was salad... followed by a half a banana+natural plain homemade yogurt

 

[Prem51]

@Prem51 For non insulin and non medicating T2’s isn’t the goal to be as close to non diabetic levels as possible ie under five point something? The 4-7 range is for managing with insulin or medication?

That might be the advice in Australia, but in UK our NHS (NICE) guidelines are that fbgs for Type 2s should be between 4-7:

 

[Shas3]

That might be the advice in Australia, but in UK our NHS (NICE) guidelines are that fbgs for Type 2s should be between 4-7:

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The part that always confuses me is "AT LEAST after 90 minutes", because if I measure at 91 minutes I may not be in range but if I measure at 120 minutes I may already be in range. So... Any thoughts, what I should focus on. I tend to measure at 2 hours or sometimes a little earlier.... but why do they say "AT LEAST"... I mean I could measure after 3 hours and feel complacent?!?!? no?? Or is my understanding wrong?!??! Well, English is not my first language, after all!!

 

[enb54]

The part that always confuses me is "AT LEAST after 90 minutes", because if I measure at 91 minutes I may not be in range but if I measure at 120 minutes I may already be in range. So... Any thoughts, what I should focus on. I tend to measure at 2 hours or sometimes a little earlier.... but why do they say "AT LEAST"... I mean I could measure after 3 hours and feel complacent?!?!? no?? Or is my understanding wrong?!??! Well, English is not my first language, after all!!

It sounds like you are doing very well, give yourself a pat on the back... AND a raise in salary!!!

 

[Shas3]

It sounds like you are doing very well, give yourself a pat on the back... AND a raise in salary!!!

If only I could

 

[Deleted member 371625]

@Prem51 For non insulin and non medicating T2’s isn’t the goal to be as close to non diabetic levels as possible ie under five point something? The 4-7 range is for managing with insulin or medication?

An average BG measurement of 6.0 mmol/L would equate to a HbA1c of 35.3 mmol/mol which is well within the normal, non-diabetic range of under 42. Seriously you are doing just great as prem51 says..

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/hba1c-to-blood-sugar-level-converter.html

 

[Venkat K]

Monday 13/05/2019

07:10 Breakfast: Oven Cooked Omelette
Two spoons of Nuts Mixture

Cycle to Work and back home Cycling
3 Green Tea and One Black Coffee at work

18:40 Blood Sugar Before Dinner 5.2

18:40 Dinner- Cauliflower, Courgette, Red pepper, Aubergine, Mushroom stir fry
Asparagus pan fried
Salad and Papad
Two spoons of Nuts Mixture

Tuesday 14/05/2019
FGB(06:50) - 6.0

 

[Prem51]

The part that always confuses me is "AT LEAST after 90 minutes", because if I measure at 91 minutes I may not be in range but if I measure at 120 minutes I may already be in range. So... Any thoughts, what I should focus on. I tend to measure at 2 hours or sometimes a little earlier.... but why do they say "AT LEAST"... I mean I could measure after 3 hours and feel complacent?!?!? no?? Or is my understanding wrong?!??! Well, English is not my first language, after all!!

Well I suppose it's a matter of personal interpretation. Some carbs are absorbed into the blood stream more quickly than others so I think it says 'at least 90 minutes' to give time for the carbs to show in your bg reading. When I test I do it two hours after the first mouthful. Some on this forum test at 1, 2 and 3 hours to see how bgs rise over a period.

 

[enb54]

May 14 Tuesday
FBG at 0750 was 4.3, food yesterday was;

Breakfast: scrambled eggs with a slice of fried ham, black tea, 500 mg metformin
Lunch: 2 chunks of cheese (brie), 1/4 cup unsalted cashews, 4 dried apricots, black tea
Dinner: 1/4 roast chicken (skin on), stir fried snap peas, garden salad w/Kraft Thousand Islands dressing, glass of red wine, 500 mg metformin
Snack: 1 shot of white rum w/diet Pepsi

Temp +10C and cloudy skies, checking out engine rebuilding options plus fixing daughter #1's front bumper cover...

 

[1spuds]

0630-FBG after 10 hr fast- 4.94
1020 thru 0330-Assorted food and drink.

1230 next day FBG-4.94

Weird night,tired now so this will have to do,they cant all be gems,eh? Off to play with garden,finally after 10 years figuring out carrots,LOL!, and drink some coffee.Ya'll have a great evening and Cheers from beautiful Southern Calif mtns today at the 5000 foot level.