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Are we on the shielding list as @Max68 was told? What shielding list? Is this one that’s not widely distributed? I thought we were in the group that had to take greater precautions unless we had other conditions too.
 
Fairygodmother said:
Are we on the shielding list as @Max68 was told? What shielding list? Is this one that’s not widely distributed? I thought we were in the group that had to take greater precautions unless we had other conditions too.
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That was my point. we were never on the shielding list but the person at the Dept Work and Pensions assumed we were.
 
In this period of second spike, I have noticed that a lot of people who used to be VERY cautious are now only paying lip service to the government guidelines. Apparently it is called ‘caution fatigue’.
Therefore the risks get higher - if I was to get coronavirus, as a 61 year old T2, what (other than pray) should I do?
 
Bapuboy said:
In this period of second spike, I have noticed that a lot of people who used to be VERY cautious are now only paying lip service to the government guidelines. Apparently it is called ‘caution fatigue’.
Therefore the risks get higher - if I was to get coronavirus, as a 61 year old T2, what (other than pray) should I do?
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Personally I think there should be a lot more focus on what you can do to improve your immune system rather than merely avoiding life and other people in general until the fabled vaccine appears!
How about:
1) low carb, high fat diet to get your blood sugars low so that an infection doesn't get out of control
2) Decent vit d3/k2 supplementation provided you are eating plenty of quality fats to help your liver make sue of it!
3) Plenty of antioxidants but not from a jar Google tells me:
Beta-carotene and vitamins C and E (this latter vitamin is found in vegetable oils, wholegrains, tomatoes, nuts*, especially almonds*, asparagus, spinach, apples, carrots, celery and avocado) are anti-oxidants
4) I'd also add doing things you enjoy (other than eating doughnuts obviously) so you sleep well and aren't too stressed. Get out for some exercise.
5) Don't watch the mainstream news until next March!
 
Max68 said:
That was my point. we were never on the shielding list but the person at the Dept Work and Pensions assumed we were.
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Hi, I would of thought the DWP would have a list of who is on a shielding list, or, at the very least something scribbled on the back of an employee's old shopping list :rolleyes:
 
NicoleC1971 said:
Personally I think there should be a lot more focus on what you can do to improve your immune system rather than merely avoiding life and other people in general until the fabled vaccine appears!
How about:
1) low carb, high fat diet to get your blood sugars low so that an infection doesn't get out of control
2) Decent vit d3/k2 supplementation provided you are eating plenty of quality fats to help your liver make sue of it!
3) Plenty of antioxidants but not from a jar Google tells me:
Beta-carotene and vitamins C and E (this latter vitamin is found in vegetable oils, wholegrains, tomatoes, nuts*, especially almonds*, asparagus, spinach, apples, carrots, celery and avocado) are anti-oxidants
4) I'd also add doing things you enjoy (other than eating doughnuts obviously) so you sleep well and aren't too stressed. Get out for some exercise.
5) Don't watch the mainstream news until next March!
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Maybe @Bapuboy doesn't eat doughnuts or fit the stereotype of a type 2 and does all that already. Of course all the points you mentioned apply equally to everyone and I for one do all of the above and am healthy in every other way as far as I know. Given that many people who contracted covid were not diabetics and not particularly unhealthy either there is obviously far more to this pandemic (and yes I know many were obese or with other underlying conditions) as well. I do agree that a person should do their best to be as healthy as possible but for me, part of that is also to avoid high risk environments when you are able to especially in the workplace.
 
Wife works in the local hospital in an office from today they have been instructed to wear their masks all day even when in the office and working at their desks as apposed to previous instructions to wear them just when moving around the hospital out side of the office.

oh and only surgical masks are allowed to be worn in the hospital by anyone they have them in dispensers at all entry points to the buildings.
 
I had an interesting conversation with a different doctor at my GP practice yesterday. After explaining my work situation to her she was very sympathetic (her mum is a teacher) and has said she will write to my head saying her opinion is I need to wear a mask together with my visor at work. She did however warn me that government advice trumps GP advice.
 
There have been individuals who seem perplexed that they can meet a family member in a pub but not in their house or are allowed to provide childcare for grandchildren. Some maybe believe if the government allow it it must be safe. The risk indoors is high, with super spreader incidents in restaurants. The only difference being that one scenario supports the economy the other doesnt.
 
Fairygodmother said:
If everyone in a work setting also wore masks then it might make a difference.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...f-covid-19-coronavirus?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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I think what is most frightening is that is has taken from March till October for some of the greatest minds in medical science to work that one out!!! Dr John Campbell was saying in his videos back in February of the real possibility that aerosol transmission was one of the main problems with this virus, as it is with colds and flu.

If I play golf with someone with the sniffles in normal times I try and keep my distance and I've never been much of a fan of picking a mate up who is coughing like a trooper before a night out, and even if it's freezing the windows will be down in my car!!

Yet it's taken 8 odd months for the scientific community to slap their foreheads and shout "Doh!!" as to why this thing spreads so well!

"Doh!" indeed!!
 
Well an interesting day today. First an X-Ray at hospital. All wearing masks but it got a bit crowded in the waiting room so pleased I was called pretty early.

Then tonight idiot here lost his wallet outside a shop. Cancelled all cards then got a message that my wallet had been handed in, minus the cash! Went to the shop and was invited to look at the CCTV by a manager not wearing a mask. Led to a dingy room at the back where he did put his mask on but then the assistant entered and he wasn't wearing one. Never one for being panic stricken but what do you do? I'm too polite to request especially when they are doing you a favour. Then after 20 minutes of CCTV watching I headed back out where the assistant had picked my shop for me, bless him. However there were about four customers in the shop with none wearing masks. Back home and sanitised wallet and all contents! Beginning to wonder if I've got a nervous wait now for the next week or so, but it does show how difficult it is to keep yourself safe when trying to live reasonably "normally". Here's hoping no-one had it!!
 
Max68 said:
Well an interesting day today. First an X-Ray at hospital. All wearing masks but it got a bit crowded in the waiting room so pleased I was called pretty early.

Then tonight idiot here lost his wallet outside a shop. Cancelled all cards then got a message that my wallet had been handed in, minus the cash! Went to the shop and was invited to look at the CCTV by a manager not wearing a mask. Led to a dingy room at the back where he did put his mask on but then the assistant entered and he wasn't wearing one. Never one for being panic stricken but what do you do? I'm too polite to request especially when they are doing you a favour. Then after 20 minutes of CCTV watching I headed back out where the assistant had picked my shop for me, bless him. However there were about four customers in the shop with none wearing masks. Back home and sanitised wallet and all contents! Beginning to wonder if I've got a nervous wait now for the next week or so, but it does show how difficult it is to keep yourself safe when trying to live reasonably "normally". Here's hoping no-one had it!!
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Odds are in your favour.

However it’s not impolite to ask politely for people to distance or put their masks on regardless of what their doing. I’m quite happy to explain I’m vulnerable and “would appreciate your help staying safe”. Really hard for people to say no to that!
 
Well, nothing to do with yesterday as it would be too quick, but just rang my absence line at work as I have had a pretty uncomfortable sleepless night with what I can only call an awful metallic taste in my mouth.

Of course popped onto Google and both Coronavirus and Diabetes came up so will probably ring 111 and see what they say. Great,,,, not!!!
 
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