Am I prediabetic

[Grothenberg]

Hey guys
My fasting bloods are anywhere from low 5.6 to 6. The occasional carb heavy treat a bit higher.
(I really think it’s dawn phenomenon)
My 2 hours post meal is always below 7.8.
my last hba1c was 5.4 last test.
Had done oral glucose test. Was in normal range.
It’s only my fasting that makes me think I am prediabetic. My dr says I’m not. Any thoughts??
Thanks

 

[Estragon]

Any thoughts?

Sure. Why aren’t you asking your Doctor this same question?

 

[Mike d]

Very much doubt you are.

 

[Mike d]

Sure. Why aren’t you asking your Doctor this same question?

He obviously did if the doctor said "NO" !!

 

[Estragon]

Ho obviously did if the doctor said :"NO" !!

No, to me it’s not that it’s obvious. My point is, our chum isn’t “hearing” or “listening” to what the Doctor is saying. And for whatever the reason is, and that, right there, in my opinion is the issue. Coming here to counter what the Doctor has said, for reassurance, is understandable. However, isn’t the professional the one to be giving reassurances? Or are we? Interesting.

 

[Mike d]

Sheesh .... carry on then.

 

[Grothenberg]

Totally understand what your saying Estragon. But to be honest I don’t really have to much faith in a doctor in relation to diabetes. Most drs have to much to know about . And specialise in nothing. I have had two doctors completely balls up 2 blood tests in a row.

First one diagnosed me being prediabetic. Problem was I had a major leg infection on antibiotics. I actually asked him if blood sugars would be higher with a major infection? We still did the test. Again voiced my concerns. He then thought it was best to do blood test a few weeks later. Bloods came back normal. Shouldn’t he have known beforehand not to test me yet?

2nd test. New dr. Oggt was performed. Dr knew I was in ketosis as I discussed it with him . Wanted to see what ketosis did for my bs.
Failed test. I done some research. Found out I should of had instructions to be on a normal balanced diet with carbs included. ( during test my pancreas was in park mode as it hadn’t needed to do anything a few weeks in keto) Mentioned it to the dr. Dr agreed. Re done the test. Bloods came back normal. Or at-least passed. Dr Left it at that ( almost like he was embarrassed) So I feel like I’m not reassured with the results entirely. I feel like I would rather hear from other prediabetics to what they think.

 

[Grothenberg]

He obviously did if the doctor said "NO" !!

Thanks for your input mike

 

[zand]

If I were you I would eat a normal balanced diet, reducing processed food, junk food and fizzy drinks, including diet drinks - which is what healthy people should be doing anyway. Perhaps you are pre-prediabetic! I wouldn't stress over it, just bear it in mind for the future as a possibility (but not a probability).

Are you overweight at all?

 

[Goonergal]

We can’t diagnose here, and if you’ve had repeat tests that came back negative that suggests the answer is ‘no’. However, if you’re eating ketogenically then that’d take care of any pre-diabetes.

 

[Grothenberg]

If I were you I would eat a normal balanced diet, reducing processed food, junk food and fizzy drinks, including diet drinks - which is what healthy people should be doing anyway. Perhaps you are pre-prediabetic! I wouldn't stress over it, just bear it in mind for the future as a possibility (but not a probability).

Are you overweight at all?

Thanks for your response.

I am trying to eat pretty well. Drink water only. Enjoy the occasional carb treat and a few beers here and there. I exercise a lot. As well as being a tradie I am very active.

Thanks again

 

[Grothenberg]

We can’t diagnose here, and if you’ve had repeat tests that came back negative that suggests the answer is ‘no’. However, if you’re eating ketogenically then that’d take care of any pre-diabetes.

Yeah I know results came back negative. But would have been good to know actual results. See if I was Boarder-line prediabetic.

As for keto I have slightly relaxed since getting the results. At the moment just trying to be low carb. But like everyone just crave the odd carb meal. And I just give in here and there. Then work hard to get back on track with exercise and low carb.

 

[Estragon]

Sheesh .... carry on then.

Well, thank you kind sir.

We can’t diagnose here

No we can’t, but we can bring our own experiences to bare, which we have.

Totally understand what your saying Estragon. But to be honest I don’t really have to much faith in a doctor in relation to diabetes.

Thanks. As you’re being honest, so will I. Read my signature below and you’ll understand more of where I’m coming from. After ten years of misunderstandings and being fobbed off by Diabetes Nurses AND a less than edifying and a dangerous attending to two separate Community Diabetes Groups, I’m now a strong supporter of evidence-based results, that’s you and me, and the my luck of getting a Doctor who for the first time issued me with a Meter Kit. This was followed-up by the NHS machine crawling into action.

We are swimming in an Glucose-Ocean. Doctors, in my option, are getting overwhelmed by this Tsunami of poor food products.

@Grothenberg - Good to see you here. Hope to speak again soon.

 

[Resurgam]

It was following the advice of the Dr to stick to the diet sheet that got me, eventually, to being almost spherical.
When I was told to follow the diet sheet the first time I had a 24 inch waist, but I was 'too heavy'.
Hey @Grothenberg - do you put weight on easily? If so, reducing the carbs might be a way to stop that.

 

[Grothenberg]

No find it hard to put weight on. I am very active with hobbies and work

 

[KK123]

My opinion is that the GP says you are not 'pre diabetic' because there is a cut off score and you are beneath it, therefore you are not pre diabetic as far as the rules go. If they lowered the hb1ac 'pass' test to 5% for example, millions more would be classed as pre diabetic/diabetic.

The hb1ac does not show to what extent your body (or anyone elses) copes with carbs exactly, it shows that some of us clearly aren't coping based on averages, as we are all different with different tolerances, some non diabetic people may have a massive tolerance for carbs and others may not.

So, whether you are officially labelled or not, if you feel it's a good idea to cut carbs (for example, the completely rubbish ones as mentioned above) you may find yourself better off for it....like the rest of the population in fact. Many people get the 'all clear' from the GP and think it means they are fine eating carbs galore when in fact they still may struggle with too many.

Just to add; you are youngish, slim?, and fit. Keep an eye on your fasting readings. I was diagnosed as pre diabetic with an hb1ac of 6.3% and 3 years later it turned out to be type 1 - NOT saying this is you of course!

 

[bulkbiker]

Hey guys
My fasting bloods are anywhere from low 5.6 to 6. The occasional carb heavy treat a bit higher.
(I really think it’s dawn phenomenon)
My 2 hours post meal is always below 7.8.
my last hba1c was 5.4 last test.
Had done oral glucose test. Was in normal range.
It’s only my fasting that makes me think I am prediabetic. My dr says I’m not. Any thoughts??
Thanks

Have you ever had an HbA1c test and if so what were the results?

 

[Grothenberg]

Have you ever had an HbA1c test and if so what were the results?

5.4

 

[bulkbiker]

5.4

So relatively normal then..

 

[Grothenberg]

So relatively normal then..

Yeah. But the fasting bloods are the frustrating bit.