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[DavidofNorfolk]

Just signed up to the forum. Can’t recall if I had signed in prev.
Had Diabetes diagnosis in 2010 linked in with a depression battle.
Was high Hb1ac around 86 when first diagnosed put on Glicazide 80 mg and Statins immediately.
Clear correlation between weight and Hb1ac scores. Hit a plateau on weight loss so halved Glicazide to 40 mg.
During past few years lost about 3st via diet and exercise hitting a Hb1ac low of 45,
Scores edged up and held at around 50-53 whilst on 40mg Glicazide.
Last 3 years had onset of stomach pains which originated after weight loss didn’t see a link to meds given length of time on them.
This year had my first hypo severe enough to call emergency services. Couldn’t get solids down to boost sugars but two glasses of orange juice appeared to work. At this time had just started a course of antibiotics.
Assessment was that as I had good control and hypo med related so taken off all meds and set up for a 6 month review.

stomach pain attacks which were approx 3-4 week intervals reduced substantially to only two one mild and one severe (today)
So appeared meds may irritate, whatever the problem is.

unfortunately Hb1ac scores have rocketed back to 60 2 weeks ago despite feeling ok. Still off meds trying to get back with diet and exercise.
Re started all exercise regime 8-10000 steps a day and cut calorie intake to around 1400 from around 1900-2000.
Been strict on this last two weeks. Lost 4 lb.

As I write just recovering from a severe stomach pain attack this morning.

This might be linked to low sugars given a tiredness link

Seems when weight loss get to set point pain restarts.


Never been able to get to the bottom of the pain issue but clearly intestinal inflammation remains there becoming sensitive depending on system balance on fat and sugars.

Not aware of any direct link between low/ high sugars and stomach pain in diabetes.

wondered if anyone has any similar experiences/ history.

 

[Lamont D]

Hi, and welcome (back) to our forum.

The stomach pain could be a whole host of conditions, the likes of IBS, or any of the bacteria of the gut, or diverticulitis.
You will have to see your GP about that.

Now, the second half of your question, is it is possible to have high then low blood glucose levels, if you have an intolerance to certain foods, and your hormonal response is not sufficient for the glucose derived, then the pancreas will produce more insulin. The problem in my case is there is too much insulin for the glucose and sends me low. On top of that, you may have insulin resistance and too much insulin being ineffective and making you gain weight.

Inflammation is a cause of type two diabetes.
It is not calories that you want to count, it is the carbs and sugar.
A low carb diet, with exercising is the best way forward.

 

[DavidofNorfolk]

Thanks for response.
After all these years it’s the first time anyone has mentioned a link between type 2 diabetes and inflamation. Something I thought would be a high probability. Was that something you discovered via specialists?

My stomach pain came on during my exercise regime to get my diabetes under control but when following it up I believed there was a link but neither my GP or Hospital consultant seemed to link the diabetes.

My diabetes is assessed as insulin resistance which to me says my digestion system has a fault.


I find it hard to believe there is no link to the intestinal / stomach inflamtion it may even be a root cause of insulin resistance. diverculitis is a high probability due to my age but again wasn’t mentioned by hospital consultant.

It appears unless I have an endescopy there is no way forward as there appears to be no other tests available to me.

Still trying to keep an open mind. Fighting for best achievable quality of life but a little down at the moment due to the years of fighting this.

Stretched local medical resources due to COVID in these past 2 years hasn’t helped.

Cheers
David

 

[LittleGreyCat]

If in doubt, go for the endoscopy.
The worst bit (in my experience) is the protocol to empty your guts prior to the investigation which can be quite startling the first time.
The endoscopy itself was a breeze for me (your mileage may vary).
Better to be sure there is nothing going on than keep wondering.

 

[Lamont D]

I agree, go for the endoscopy, I have upper stomach issues about fifteen years ago and got sent for one. It was the reason why for the pain, my stomach was full of bad bacteria.. I had the antibiotics and hardly any trouble since.

You say that you are insulin resistant, that is a symptom of T2, insulin resistance is when the hormonal response of insulin doesn't lock onto the glucose to give you energy. This is why your blood sugar levels keeps on going up. Constant carbs and and sugar will do this, it all depends on what you can tolerate.

If you were given an insulin test, you would probably find that you're insulin levels are higher than normal.

 

[KennyA]

Thanks for response.
After all these years it’s the first time anyone has mentioned a link between type 2 diabetes and inflamation. Something I thought would be a high probability. Was that something you discovered via specialists?

My stomach pain came on during my exercise regime to get my diabetes under control but when following it up I believed there was a link but neither my GP or Hospital consultant seemed to link the diabetes.

My diabetes is assessed as insulin resistance which to me says my digestion system has a fault.


I find it hard to believe there is no link to the intestinal / stomach inflamtion it may even be a root cause of insulin resistance. diverculitis is a high probability due to my age but again wasn’t mentioned by hospital consultant.

It appears unless I have an endescopy there is no way forward as there appears to be no other tests available to me.

Still trying to keep an open mind. Fighting for best achievable quality of life but a little down at the moment due to the years of fighting this.

Stretched local medical resources due to COVID in these past 2 years hasn’t helped.

Cheers
David

If you have the endoscopy, and they offer you pain relief, take it. I wish I had.