low carb

[Jamrox]

Ditch the bread debpre, you don't need it. I can't eat wheat, so don't have any bread at all. You just need to be a bit more prepared and make a salad for lunch. Don't just think lettuce, cucumber and tomatoes, there are lots of things you can add to a salad such as sugar snap peas and raw cauliflower.

I do this and add coronation chicken.

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[Jamrox]

Hi All
Having been diagnosed T2 a month ago I have resigned myself that finding out what your body will allow you to have is simply a case of trial and error.
My reading was 17+ at diagnosis a month ago and has come down to 7.3
My DN (called Egor) advises me to avoid white bread, wine, beer, (of course) but eat porridge,banana's and other fruit twice a day.
In a post yesterday everyone suggested I cut out the fruit and porridge. And that I could eat chicken, eggs, bacon and steak.
Been living on salad and fish since diagnosis.
Lost 5lbs in weight. Exercising one-twice a day for15-30 mins each time. Need to loose 9lbs in weight for a BMI of -25.

Given that both Egor and the responses to my post all agree 'no white bread' at the very least - I'd give any bread a wide berth.
However, they did suggest, rather usefully, that I could eat, for example, bread and, testing before and a few hours afterwards to see how my body tolerated me scoffing. Egor just said to test once a day, which has given me some useful clues.

Eat, test and be damned

Cereal and porridge made my bg shoot up .
I can't eat oranges, apples or bananas so I stick to berries.
My breakfast is natural yoghurt , berries and a dessert spoon of nutty mueseli. I add a bit of splendour too.
Lunch is usually salad .
Dinner is whatever but I reduce the carbs . I usually go on my exercise bike before my dinner so that hels too.


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[Scandichic]

I tried to cut out bread,rice,and pasta. I took salad to work and felt hungrier than I did when I used to take just one sandwich. Imsometime feel you just can't win. I am well overweight or maybe just to short. I have an appointment with the dietitian next week and hopefully I will be able to sort stuff out..

Try this website:
http://www.dietdoctor.com
For me it was a life saver. I am never hungry! Now that's a diet you can't beat!
Sorry posted this before I'd read all the other posts!

 

[Yorksman]

Yorksman talks a great deal of sense and just about mirrors my views entirely

Thanks, but it was Roy Taylor who said it. I just got lucky and got to read it first

 

[Yorksman]

Absolutely correct for me

All this exercise, buying rowing machines, turbo trainers, trekking bikes, mountain bikes and hiking and cycling clothing and shoes is bankrupting me. I wish there was a pill on the NHS, especially now I am 60 and get free prescriptions!

 

[Adelle0607]

All this exercise, buying rowing machines, turbo trainers, trekking bikes, mountain bikes and hiking and cycling clothing and shoes is bankrupting me. I wish there was a pill on the NHS!

Lol



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[Scandichic]

All this exercise, buying rowing machines, turbo trainers, trekking bikes, mountain bikes and hiking and cycling clothing and shoes is bankrupting me. I wish there was a pill on the NHS, especially now I am 60 and get free prescriptions!

Then there's the cost of the food. Carbs are so much cheaper!

 

[Jamrox]

All this exercise, buying rowing machines, turbo trainers, trekking bikes, mountain bikes and hiking and cycling clothing and shoes is bankrupting me. I wish there was a pill on the NHS, especially now I am 60 and get free prescriptions!

We have a sporty forty thread , we try not to talk about exercise, we talk about activities . There are some inventive ways of being more active.

Oh and come to Scotland ..free prescriptions lol

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[Scandichic]

Hi @Jamrox
I got up early and did an hours power walking before brekkie! Do I feel virtuous or wot?!

 

[Jamrox]

Hi @Jamrox
I got up early and did an hours power walking before brekkie! Do I feel virtuous or wot?!

Don't know about you but I feel smug lol

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[Zaphod]

Reading this thread has scared me. thought my Hba1c of 53 (7) for the last 10 years was good. I see that others would consider this as very high.

since July 10th.I have cut out bread and cereals from my diet. I have 6 pieces of rivita per day instead. My breakfast is Total yoghurt (80g) nuts and berries. lunch is egg/bacon/ham cheese. at night I have potatoes and green veg. I am keeping my carb consumption below 150g.

My morning bgs are usually 6.8 to 8.2 but pre-prandial is usually around 4.4 to 5. I think I may have lost up to 1g in weight, probably just dreaming that it is going down.

Someone suggested to me that during this hot and sticky weather dehydration could be affecting the results.

Metformin 1g Gliclazide 20mg dapagliflozin 10mg

 

[Scandichic]

Reading this thread has scared me. thought my Hba1c of 53 (7) for the last 10 years was good. I see that others would consider this as very high.

since July 10th.I have cut out bread and cereals from my diet. I have 6 pieces of rivita per day instead. My breakfast is Total yoghurt (80g) nuts and berries. lunch is egg/bacon/ham cheese. at night I have potatoes and green veg. I am keeping my carb consumption below 150g.

My morning bgs are usually 6.8 to 8.2 but pre-prandial is usually around 4.4 to 5. I think I may have lost up to 1g in weight, probably just dreaming that it is going down.

Someone suggested to me that during this hot and sticky weather dehydration could be affecting the results.

Metformin 1g Gliclazide 20mg dapagliflozin 10mg

What do you have on the rivita? Bread was always my weak point. I was always fine for my evening meal, it was lunch which phased me initially. Now I have finger food or tapas so pieces of cheese, cherry tomatoes, carrot sticks with dip, olives, mini cocktail sausages, antipasti. Out of all the starchy carbs, potatoes have the least effect on me but I still avoid them. I have swapped crisps out for peanuts and I have more meat or fish and veggies and find I don't need the potatoes anymore.

 

[wizardo]

All this exercise, buying rowing machines, turbo trainers, trekking bikes, mountain bikes and hiking and cycling clothing and shoes is bankrupting me. I wish there was a pill on the NHS, especially now I am 60 and get free prescriptions!

In terms of exercise, I've tried the approach of buying success. But in the end, perspiration is the only drug that works for me whether in the gym or swimming. The toys work for a while and maintain interest, but as you know there are no easy solutions, unless you opt for sulphonylureas or indulin.

 

[jack412]

Reading this thread has scared me. thought my Hba1c of 53 (7) for the last 10 years was good. I see that others would consider this as very high.

since July 10th.I have cut out bread and cereals from my diet. I have 6 pieces of rivita per day instead. My breakfast is Total yoghurt (80g) nuts and berries. lunch is egg/bacon/ham cheese. at night I have potatoes and green veg. I am keeping my carb consumption below 150g.

My morning bgs are usually 6.8 to 8.2 but pre-prandial is usually around 4.4 to 5. I think I may have lost up to 1g in weight, probably just dreaming that it is going down.

Someone suggested to me that during this hot and sticky weather dehydration could be affecting the results.

Metformin 1g Gliclazide 20mg dapagliflozin 10mg

If it was me, I would increase the metformin to 2g because of the fasting BG. It may be insulin resistance.
Cut your carbs a lot
Or take more gliclazide to get it down.

What are your 2hr post meal like?

 

[forge]

I wrote this.
LOW CARB DIETS

Why and How

By Mango Chutney

If you have not been comatosed in recent times, you will know that our modern diet contains too much carbs (carbohydrates) and it is the root cause of overweight and related health problems.

So the time has come to do something about it, particularly if you are overweight, pre-diabetic or diabetic. The problem is we eat too much grain products, bread, rice, pasta, cereals etc and too much starch i.e. potatoes and sweet potato and too much sugar of all types including fruit.

They do not want us to eat extra protein or overload on grease, good or bad and we need to get enough to eat.

We can, of course, make up the difference with garden veg. but we can follow my simple tips and convert our recipes to Lo-carb.

Bakery products.

Sugar alternatives are available and I call it “pretend sugar”, eventually you will get used to the taste.

Wheat flour is a problem and we eat a lot of it one way or another and the alternative is nut flours. The nut flours that are easy to buy are coconut flour and almond meal and both are made from the waste left after the oil is extracted.

For cooking, nut flours have a major problem because they have no “glue” to hold cooked product together, wheat flour has gluten.

Some glues for nut flour that I use are; eggs, olive oil, grated cheese and gelatine. I use them in flour recipes, there are no hard and fast rules, just use what you think suits the end product.

A lo- carb self-raising wholemeal flour alternative I use is;

½ cup of each of 3 flours (self-raising flour, coconut flour, almond meal)

½ cup of crushed nuts

1 cup desiccated coconut

1 teaspoon baking soda

Plus whatever glue (see above) I choose i.e, grated cheese for flat bread, eggs and olive oil and gelatine for cakes.

This will produce some flavours that you might not like but you can override them with spices and curry powder and vanilla essence or even cocoa. Peppermint essence, if not too heavily applied, will just become a clean tasting mask.

Note about coconut flour.

Coconut flour absorbs huge quantities of fluid so it is best to not waste ingredients by having them absorbed into the coconut flour (add water to the coconut flour first).

If you search the net you will find lots of lo-carb recipes and plenty for bread alternatives but most of them read like an omelette recipe with stacks of eggs. There are some good ones tho, that will even make bread that can be toasted, and there are some that cook in a mug in a microwave.

Potato Alternative

I use extra pumpkin and zucchini instead of potato.

Don’t forget all the beans are OK and the nuts are all fine too, and you do not just have to eat salads.

Soups, stews, curries, stir-fries, baked dinners, bacon and eggs, BBQs, cakes, diet jellies and egg custard are all good.

There is a microwaved chocolate cake around that is magnificent and delicious icing can be made from cream cheese, pretend sugar and lime or lemon juice.

Frozen berries are convenient (lots of taste and not much sugar) and they can be microwaved and sweetened for cakes or desserts and they can be made into jam and chutney.

To make jam, cook the berries a bit in the microwave with pretend sugar then add gelatine. You can make a chutney/relish by adding Worcestershire sauce to your jam.

If you are an experimental cook - then go for it and if you like to follow recipes the net is chocas with lo-carb recipes.

Enjoy!

 

[Pollylocks]

......I've no doubt that I'll be shouted down by all and sundry for this as virtually everyone in here seems to think its the answer, but I really am starting to question the LCHF diet....yes it may be a balance but in my opinion its not an EQUAL balance...

....I've said so many times before that I was diet only for thirteen years...at the time I knew no better and this forum didn't exist so I followed the eatwell plate and remained diet only for all this time....thirteen years is quite a long time as its a progressive illness, now I need metforminSR twice a day...

...Eating a very low amount of carbs but a high amount of fat, whether it be good fats or bad, just doesn't seem right to me....one of the recommendations for a breakfast idea on Diet Doctor is a chunk of cheese with butter on it...sorry but that sounds crazy to me and would probably make me throw up...

..So its lowISH carb for me with no higher than medium fat, my bs levels are reducing, so I'm DEFINITELY not saying the eatwell plate is right, I just think we need to tweak things to suit ourselves, hell we're not all the same!!

 

[zand]

......I've no doubt that I'll be shouted down by all and sundry for this as virtually everyone in here seems to think its the answer, but I really am starting to question the LCHF diet....yes it may be a balance but in my opinion its not an EQUAL balance...

....I've said so many times before that I was diet only for thirteen years...at the time I knew no better and this forum didn't exist so I followed the eatwell plate and remained diet only for all this time....thirteen years is quite a long time as its a progressive illness, now I need metforminSR twice a day...

...Eating a very low amount of carbs but a high amount of fat, whether it be good fats or bad, just doesn't seem right to me....one of the recommendations for a breakfast idea on Diet Doctor is a chunk of cheese with butter on it...sorry but that sounds crazy to me and would probably make me throw up...

..So its lowISH carb for me with no higher than medium fat, my bs levels are reducing, so I'm DEFINITELY not saying the eatwell plate is right, I just think we need to tweak things to suit ourselves, hell we're not all the same!!

Yes, I think I am beginning to agree with you. LCHF sorted my BG's, but not my weight. My big problem is that the only protein I really enjoy is cheese. I eat fish, chicken, beef, bacon, nuts but don't really enjoy eating them. I hate eggs, pork and lamb. So yes, lowish carbs so that BG's are OK, and then protein and fat to suit you personally makes sense. I am eating more fruit this time round, so my carb intake is higher but my weight loss is greater. It is a balancing act. I don't think I could manage cheese with butter either, but I do sometimes have bacon with butter when I am desperate for a bacon sandwich but know my BG's won't stand one. I started with cutting out the 'white' carbs and then changed to LCHF, which I've now tweaked to suit me better. I've no doubt I will be modifying it again later too

 

[Lamont D]

Your diet should suit you as long as you know that you still need to eat some low carbs and some fats. To decrease your blood glucose level, could just be reducing your daily intake and increasing your activities. I am very fussy when it comes to food so I just eat what works for me. I can't stick to any of the well known diets!

 

[zand]

Your diet should suit you as long as you know that you still need to eat some low carbs and some fats. To decrease your blood glucose level, could just be reducing your daily intake and increasing your activities. I am very fussy when it comes to food so I just eat what works for me. I can't stick to any of the well known diets!

Increase activity.........yes I'm getting the hints from all of you! I think I know where I've been going wrong!

 

[Lamont D]

Just walk a little bit more, find more chores to do. Lol!