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My experience by numbers
  1. Prob diagnosed more than 15 years (I can't remember exactly)
  2. Diet/ low GI and exercise
  3. 1/2 Tab per day
  4. 1 tab per day
  5. mixed fast and slow insulin
  6. Nova Rapid plus Lantus
  7. Progressively increased doses to total 130 units per day
  8. Changed Specialist my Hb1C was right on 7 and I was changing my insulin doses to demand.
  9. Specialist changed my diet and prescribed Metformin and said he wanted to get me off insulin
  10. He was happy with my level of exercise = Bowls and men's shed activities 5 days per week.
  11. Diet was not serving sizes or counting anything just no grain products, no starches, no sugars limited fruit,
  12. I was off insulin in a week and on 4 tabs
  13. 3 months later my Hb1C was 6.3, I was 10KG lighter (need another 10KG off) all my blood test numbers were normal
  14. Next appointment in 4 months the aim was to get me on more carbs when my weight allowed it and get me back to my General Practitioner (Doc) with no specialist needed.
That you must agree is a success story and I am doing what my specialist wants me to do.

I also have a heart specialist (pacemaker and hypertension) and I have recently done all the tests. My heart specialist dietary advice is cut back the booze 1 bottle of whisky per week is far too much, lay off the cheese and processed meat. I also get gout so I have to watch my build up of purines = offal. pork, shellfish.

So I had to dig in for the long term diet haul.

Long term diet success, for me, was finding how to use the nut flour replacement for wheat flour. Both my specialists would not be happy with LCHF and they see it as life threatening. Punters in here will argue that LCHF is the opposite of life threatening, but if I can achieve my goals without LCHF then why would I choose go down the LCHF track.

I have already been on the slab for heart surgery and my brother died from hardened arteries and associated health problems ( I did not get to see the autopsy report so that is all know).. I will prob be up for a hip replacement if it gets worse.

I hope that helps someone.
 
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Pollylocks said:
......I've no doubt that I'll be shouted down by all and sundry for this as virtually everyone in here seems to think its the answer, but I really am starting to question the LCHF diet....yes it may be a balance but in my opinion its not an EQUAL balance...

....I've said so many times before that I was diet only for thirteen years...at the time I knew no better and this forum didn't exist so I followed the eatwell plate and remained diet only for all this time....thirteen years is quite a long time as its a progressive illness, now I need metforminSR twice a day...

...Eating a very low amount of carbs but a high amount of fat, whether it be good fats or bad, just doesn't seem right to me....one of the recommendations for a breakfast idea on Diet Doctor is a chunk of cheese with butter on it...sorry but that sounds crazy to me and would probably make me throw up...

..So its lowISH carb for me with no higher than medium fat, my bs levels are reducing, so I'm DEFINITELY not saying the eatwell plate is right, I just think we need to tweak things to suit ourselves, hell we're not all the same!!
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Hi Pollylocks , I think its such an individual thing. I eat a reduced carb diet most of the time. I couldn't eat high fat because it would make me feel sick. I eat a lot of yoghurt and berries , salad etc.

For me being more active every day is the key for stable bgs. I tolerate a few more carbs then.


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My low carb diet meant I stopped eating bread and cereals replacing with Rivita. I noticed that am feeling less tired.

yesterday I was hungry in the afternoon with still 3 hours to dinner, so I had two slices of hovis bread. What a mistake, within 30 minutes I was tired then fell asleep for 2+ hours. So no more bread.

Interestingly enough my bg was 5.8 just before dinner, much less than I was expecting.
 
HI Zaphod
I have cut out bread, biscuits,cakes, pasta, rice etc.
But have kept the cereals e.g. bran flakes, oats, wetabix and a banana a day (which I may loose in favour of more berries)
Main course are a mix of omelets, salad, green veg and fish - mainly salmon.
I weighted in at a 13st. 11lbs on the 22nd June I am now down t0 13st. 2lbs as of this morning.
BG on the 22nd June was 17 (not far of hospital).
It has been failing very quickly my seven day average being 5.
However, this morning it really dropped to 3.7
I am doing a great deal of exercise to drop the weight and get to a BMI of about 24.
Exercises includes, Army fitness training, Spin classes, aqua aerobics, gym workouts etc.the full 9 yards
On a daily basis my morning BG is;
8.3
7.5
4.3
6.3
5.9
5.1
4.9
3.7 - today
The plan is to get my bg down and keep it down.
And then get into remission by losing the fat around my pancreas.
I think I may have hot a tipping point and lead less metemorfin. They put me on 3 tablets a day..
I also take B12 via throat spray to counteract the side affects of metemorfin. But not sure how you tell if you have the B12 deficiency?

I have an appointment with the DN on Monday afternoon.
I was wondering should I bring it forward?
- I was supposed to see her last Monday but my appointment was screwed up.
Managed to see the podiatrist. My right toe is numb and I thought I had nerve damage.
Had a big sweat on over it.
But when they check my arteries she sad it was the best set of feet she'd seen in ages.
Apart from my broken toe - hence the numbness. Broken toe - never thought of that. Did drop a tool box on it - but I never thought of that :-)
I let a a big woohoh on the news - she thinks I'm nuts.

All the best
 
for me i did low carb and still do from dec last yr im just touching 7 stone in weight loss , and i find the diet easy and satisfying , id never go back now xx
 
If we go down the 'lower carb route' we all gravitate to the highest carb level that our body will tolerate.

For some, that is actually fairly high or medium carb.
For me that is much, much, less.

Why would people cut out a tasty part of their diet if they didn't have to?
 
Jamrox said:
I find I can tolerate a bit more now that Im 2 stone lighter , I don't push it though

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...that's what's so difficult, I'm much lighter than when I was first diagnosed years ago, lost 2 stone, I don't know how as I wasn't low carbing at the time and wasn't actively dieting, just generally unwell so probably thats why...I still need to lose a stone and since I've been on this forum I've been lowISH carbing but its not the weight that bothers me, its more about low carbing.....I do know its good for weight loss but I have wondered if it makes us even more intolerant to them than we already are as diabetics if we step it up a bit, so its good to hear that its working for you Jamrox, I totally agree about not pushing it...
 
This is interesting
Effect of Tree Nuts on Glycemic Control in Diabetes
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetc....1371/journal.pone.0103376&representation=PDF
Their conclusion: Pooled analyses show that tree nuts improve glycemic control in individuals with type 2 diabetes, supporting
their inclusion in a healthy diet. Owing to the uncertainties in our analyses there is a need for longer, higher quality trials
with a focus on using nuts to displace high-glycemic index carbohydrates.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...-diabetes-peanuts-won-t-help-say-experts.html
 
Pollylocks said:
...that's what's so difficult, I'm much lighter than when I was first diagnosed years ago, lost 2 stone, I don't know how as I wasn't low carbing at the time and wasn't actively dieting, just generally unwell so probably thats why...I still need to lose a stone and since I've been on this forum I've been lowISH carbing but its not the weight that bothers me, its more about low carbing.....I do know its good for weight loss but I have wondered if it makes us even more intolerant to them than we already are as diabetics if we step it up a bit, so its good to hear that its working for you Jamrox, I totally agree about not pushing it...
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My specialist advice is when my weight comes down my tolerance to carbs will get better and I should then increase carbs. He is part of a hospital team that is doing a lot of medical research so I do not doubt his advice.
 
forge said:
My specialist advice is when my weight comes down my tolerance to carbs will get better and I should then increase carbs. He is part of a hospital team that is doing a lot of medical research so I do not doubt his advice.
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...thanks for that forge, interesting to know, we're always learning..
 
forge said:
My specialist advice is when my weight comes down my tolerance to carbs will get better and I should then increase carbs. He is part of a hospital team that is doing a lot of medical research so I do not doubt his


can you tell me for the first few weeks with no bread pasta etc what you actually ate
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I think we had a lot of home made Asian stir fry with Asian condiments, and probably a cabbage and crushed baked bean sartay, sausages and frozen veg in the microwave and oven baked chicken in the flat sandwich press toaster and BBQ steak and veg including mushroom zucchini pumpkin.

Extra pumpkin and zucchini to make up for spuds, Salads for lunch with ham or tinned fish..I tried snacks with peanut butter and celery, nuts. I had a banana per day, egg custard. Flat bread and homemade soup for breakfast bacon and eggs and left-overs for breakfast. And I was experimenting to see what sent me high and I made cakes with 3 flours, I tried pies in the electric pie maker but that did not work out and I mad some great Choc rum balls with the lot.

I had diet jelly and allbran for breakfast and found the small amount of allbran did not send me high.

That is roughly from memory.
 
mortigger1968 said:
thank you very much .what is flat bread ? and do the sausages have to be carb free ?
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I experimented with making bread because I was not happy with the "bread" recipes with more eggs than an omelette.

I bought coconut flour and almond meal and tried a few things and finally found 1/3 of each wheat flour, coconut flour, almond meal and tried to make it rise like pikelets then after a few attempts I settled on grated cheese in the mix and cooked it thin and it was fine. Good with soup for breakfast.

No, the sausages were just sausages as sold by our local supermarket and they have nearly zero fat comes out when we cook them.
 
mortigger1968 said:
ok thanks I love sausages , how can I make egg custard do u have a recipe
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Egg custard used to be made in a cup and it was egg, milk, sugar and vanilla and nutmeg on the top. They used to bake it standing in water.

I cooked it in the microwave It does not need thickening. Give it a couple of goes and you will find out how to make it how you like it using sweetener instead of sugar.
 
Today I had celery and phili cheese at lunchtime and im surprised how much I enjoyed it. Cherries to mmmmm
 
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