" Eat Fat " - Trudi Deakin's New Book

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@izzzi. I don't consider that your own reservations about the high fat bit is nit-picking. I myself have varied the amount of fat I eat whilst remaining with low carb. I am experimenting with more fat now. I'll let you know how I get on in a few months time.

To me the low carb bit has always been the most important bit of the equation. The amount of fat is the amount we each need personally to satiate our appetite. That's up to the individual. I like the fact that Dr Deakin has said 80% fat because some people may have been frightened to try it because of past (wrong) warnings about the dangers of saturated fat. The 80% says to me that you can eat fat freely. I don't take it as a prescriptive amount for each and every one of us. In the Summer I tend to have less fat than in the Winter. As long as I eat enough fat so I am not hungry and tempted to eat more carbs or protein then I'm happy with that.
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That's how I've taken it. I probably don't eat as much fat as many on here as I don't actually like butter or cream all that much and I wanted to shift some of my excess weight a bit faster than eating cheese freely might have allowed. Now I'm getting within a stone of my goal weight , I've started having a bit more cheese if the fancy takes me and I have been known to eat all of the pork crackling from the roast myself! It's all about finding what level of fat you need to feel satiated on the absence of carbs. For some that may well be bulletproof coffees and buttery veg and fair play to them. I don't think there's any right or wrong answer except working out what level of carbs you can tolerate and working round that and the scores on your meter.
 
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I shall be very interested to progress this locally -
through the Hounslow Cardio/Diabetes support group;
Through personal contact with the local dietitian who runs the X-PERT course;
through diabetic specialist Drs I have has personal contact with.

I have ordered 2 copies & the related manual (if available, otherwise 3 copies.)
 
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I've just spoken to Careline at DUK - the first person asked if I meant DAFNE - he'd never hear of X-PERT. I then spoke to a lady who could only give the standard advice. I strongly recommended her to look up the Mail-on-line interview. And I've written to Balance,

I note that the originator of the course,Dr Trudi Deakin, has adopted the low carb, high fat lifestyle & is now recommending diabetics & others of the health benefits.

This link gives the details:
http://www.xperthealth.org.uk/at-risk-of-diabetes/a-step-by-step-guide-to-low-carb-living

Dr Deakin was interviewed for the Daily Mail & that interview can be read here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...carbs-fuelling-obesity-diabetes-epidemic.html

I strongly recommend that you interview Dr Deakin for Balance on the question of diet.

I have been diabetic - T2 - for 14 years. I followed the standard Duk/NHS diet for 8 years until complications set in - crippling peripheral neuropathy, extreme tiredness & beginning of retinopathy. Seven years ago, I cut the obvious carbs out of my diet. Within 3 months I was fit & well. Seven years on, at nearly 76, I am still in excellent health - playing tennis & table tennis at club standard, whereas 7 years ago it was painful to get out of bed.

I have written to Balance on a number of occasions, without positive response. I have looked up the Duk data on T2 diet & low carb, & the quoted references. It seems the main concern is that data on the safety of long term low carb, high fat is not available. Balance said that in the July-August issue 2003, & in the Low Carb data sheet, 2011.

When will you consider seriously those of us who have benefited from LCHF over many years? 8 years on your diet proved that diabetes was progressive. LCHF reversed that progression.

I am attaching scans of an 2008 article featuring Fergus Craig from whom I learned the benefits of a LCHF diet.

Regards,

Ian Day


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any wanna read it on camera so i can watch it on youtube lol, reading books aint my ting
 
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Attachments send me to a Gmail email sign in @IanD
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Sorry. I'll post the scans from my files.

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I hate that comment by Sweet's Dietitian. It's wrong in so many ways, even with the statements relating to eating protein and kidney disorders, as there is a wealth of evidence showing that Nephropathy is NOT linked to eating protein, rather that if you already have CKD, then protein is something you need to care about.
 
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The article that IanD has posted in this thread is somewhat dated as Fergus and Fast Eddie left the forum a long time ago and they along with Dr Katherine of Dsolve . What has happened to Fergus?
 
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iHs said:
The article that IanD has posted in this thread is somewhat dated as Fergus and Fast Eddie left the forum a long time ago and they along with Dr Katherine of Dsolve . What has happened to Fergus?
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He's a facebook friend, but he's about as active on FB as he is on this forum now.
 
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The article that IanD has posted in this thread is somewhat dated as Fergus and Fast Eddie left the forum a long time ago and they along with Dr Katherine of Dsolve . What has happened to Fergus?
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The LCHF lifestyle is always current.

Fergus responded to my contribution to his FB page:

  • Well, well, after all the dire predictions the dieticians once made for the crazy low carbers like us, we still lived long enough to see them start to realise how wrong they were!
Dire predictions?
I came across the July/August 2003 “Balance”, which had an article "investigating the truth behind a low carb diet."

They include warnings of the dangers of "breakdown of vital muscle & body tissues" or "increased risk of heart disease, cancers & bowel disorders" or "the risk of kidney disease." Such a diet may be "suitable ... with medical supervision & with guidance from a state-registered dietitian."

A key paragraph is: "Research into the long-term effects of low-carb diets is now required. And in response to this, Diabetes UK is funding such research."

That was 2003. Eight years on we have the 2011 D UK “Position Statement” where we read:

"More research is needed to assess the effectiveness of varying degrees of low-carbohydrate diet on weight, glycaemic control, hypertension and lipid profile in people with Type 2 diabetes as well as to investigate the long term effects of these diets."

The 2013 “Eating Well” speaks of “conflicting stories ... about low- & no-carb diets” and acknowledges that “all carbohydrates break down into glucose.”

What is the truth about low carb diets & its possible dangers - & of course their benefits? Obviously D UK do not know, despite their warnings.

I can't wait for yet more long term studies in the attempt for D UK to find the “truth” - I've too much to lose. I followed their "healthy diet" for over 7 years & was crippled by the complications. My low-carb diet started in May 2008. The complications disappeared in 3 months.
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IanD said:
The LCHF lifestyle is always current.

Fergus responded to my contribution to his FB page:

  • Well, well, after all the dire predictions the dieticians once made for the crazy low carbers like us, we still lived long enough to see them start to realise how wrong they were!
Dire predictions?
I came across the July/August 2003 “Balance”, which had an article "investigating the truth behind a low carb diet."

They include warnings of the dangers of "breakdown of vital muscle & body tissues" or "increased risk of heart disease, cancers & bowel disorders" or "the risk of kidney disease." Such a diet may be "suitable ... with medical supervision & with guidance from a state-registered dietitian."

A key paragraph is: "Research into the long-term effects of low-carb diets is now required. And in response to this, Diabetes UK is funding such research."

That was 2003. Eight years on we have the 2011 D UK “Position Statement” where we read:

"More research is needed to assess the effectiveness of varying degrees of low-carbohydrate diet on weight, glycaemic control, hypertension and lipid profile in people with Type 2 diabetes as well as to investigate the long term effects of these diets."

The 2013 “Eating Well” speaks of “conflicting stories ... about low- & no-carb diets” and acknowledges that “all carbohydrates break down into glucose.”

What is the truth about low carb diets & its possible dangers - & of course their benefits? Obviously D UK do not know, despite their warnings.

I can't wait for yet more long term studies in the attempt for D UK to find the “truth” - I've too much to lose. I followed their "healthy diet" for over 7 years & was crippled by the complications. My low-carb diet started in May 2008. The complications disappeared in 3 months.
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So I have some free time while waiting in for a delivery, and have had the chance to read the book completely . For those who haven't got the book, the Table of Contents reads :

What is a very low carb/ high fat lifestyle ?

The science of carbohydrate

The science supporting a very low carb/high fat lifestyle

How could this lifestyle benefit me ?

Not a quick fix but sustainable lifestyle change

Questions to ask yourself before you start.

Step 1: What are you currently eating ?
Step 2: identification of carbohydrate foods
Step 3: Eliminating carbohydrates - how low do you go?
Step 4: What can you eat?
Step 5: Monitoring success
Step 6: Maintainence

Essential tips to ensure success e.g eating enough salt and fat.

Frequently asked questions

Filling up on fat

Focus on alcohol

Zero and low calorie sweetners

Glycaemic index

Reading and understanding food labels

Carbohydrate content of everyday foods

Sample meal plans

Low carb recipes

Where can I obtain further information and support ?

Health indicators

Monitoring health

There is a lot of useful information in the book, and it is clear and waffle free ( pardon the pun! ) . I particularly liked the LCHF " Eatwell Plate" and the explanation of food groups, daily portions and what is a portion . It's a good starting point with more information given on achieving the right balance and resources such as how to use myfitnesspal. The carbohydrate content of common foods again, is a good starting point, with suggestions as to how to obtain the carb count of others not in the list. Vegetarians note - vegetarian protein such as Quorn are mentioned, but there is not a huge deal to be found in here, neither is there in the recommended " Carbs and Cals " book and app. However, this information can be found through myfitnesspal and other resources online.

The recipes are good though not that many as I believe them to be a starting point - there are a wealth of low carb cook books out there . I tried the low carb bread at 1g carb per 56g serving, and the Beef lasagne with leek pasta, substituting the beef with Quorn mince, and both were very, very good :)

I think that the book is an excellent start for those who are contemplating adopting this lifestyle and those who have questions about the current advice of eating low fat/ high carb , and also has items of interest for those of us that already live a LCHF lifestyle . If you need further convincing of the lack of credibility of the current dietary advice for diabetics, there is an excellent link given by @Pasha that I will post a link to thread after closing this one .

Signy
 
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Just received my book this morning....looking forward to her backing up all the advice I got from you guys lol
 
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I've got 3 copies - the manual will take a few months.
I can learn a lot from it.
 
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IanD said:
I've got 3 copies - the manual will take a few months.
I can learn a lot from it.
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May I ask who will the lucky people to receive the other two ? :D Not if its personal of course, but I rather like the idea of you presenting one to your dietician :cool:

Signy
 
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