Bit confused about the high fat thing

[Clivethedrive]

nope, you don't get the 'feelings' us overeaters get while eating. It's leptin and would be like me describing the colour red to a blind man

this video will help

Thanks for posting jack412, absolutely mindboggling, but so revealing... Thanks

 

[jack412]

I didn't say anything about feelings.

I reread my post, It sounds like a shot, but I didn't mean it that way, I was trying to say it's not as simple as restricting calorie dense foods

Maybe not, I'm not a doctor, I don't know really, I just can't see it as healthy to eat all that stuff

there is no rush for diet except to cut carbs. after you lose weight you need to think long term
this bloods video will help
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BFRi-nH1v8

and
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/nutrition/a/How-To-Overcome-Fat-Phobia.htm

 

[Tooconfused]

Cheers for the replies guys, I'm not pulling the whole idea to pieces completely, I mean, I get that "0%" products like yogurts have more carbs than full fat ones, and great, I've made that change in my kitchen now, I just can't go the whole hog and start eating the rest. Have had a good read around the forum, just not convinced , maybe I'm cynical!

 

[NoCrbs4Me]

I reread my post, It sounds like a shot, but I didn't mean it that way, I was trying to say it's not as simple as restricting calorie dense foods

No problem. But sometimes it might be.

 

[donnellysdogs]

A combination of higher carbs AND fat does not work for good health.

I always thought I was a moderator eater.... It wasn't until I came to this forum more so that I realused that I was a low carber and not eating enough fat.

Then went to my fitness pal and realissd more fully.

Only thanks to Phoenix on this forum that I realised how low my carbs actually are and how low my fat was. Now I just ensure I have full fat milk and double cream and cheese as well if I can face extra. But always coconut oil, flaxseed and chia seeds.

 

[Tooconfused]

I think the problem we have is the reason people eat. If it's to lower blood sugar readings, if it's just to be healthy all round, if it's weight loss. I have substituted oatmeal for natural yogurt, in order to lower BS readings, and it seems to be a good decision so far.

Just had a read on "WebMD.com" about fats, and it's the usual story, "eat healthy fats like olive oil and walnuts, avoid butter and lard". Think I'll give the butter, cream etc a miss and just swap a few high carb foods for lower ones and exercise a bit more.

 

[Lamont D]

I think you are not to be persuaded about a healthy diet!
The healthy diet you are talking about is not healthy for a diabetic.
It will not lower your blood glucose and not lose you weight.
You do need to rethink your ideas on healthy foods for a diabetic
Oatmeal would send me through the roof, whereas natural full fat yoghurt wouldn't be a blip on my meter.

 

[Brunneria]

I think the problem we have is the reason people eat. If it's to lower blood sugar readings, if it's just to be healthy all round, if it's weight loss. I have substituted oatmeal for natural yogurt, in order to lower BS readings, and it seems to be a good decision so far.

Just had a read on "WebMD.com" about fats, and it's the usual story, "eat healthy fats like olive oil and walnuts, avoid butter and lard". Think I'll give the butter, cream etc a miss and just swap a few high carb foods for lower ones and exercise a bit more.

Yes, there's a great deal of out of date information being handed out by bastions of medical authority.
It's quite tragic how long it takes for robust new findings to filter through into the Establishment. Meanwhile, people continue to follow out of date, often harmful advice.

 

[jack412]

I think the problem we have is the reason people eat. If it's to lower blood sugar readings, if it's just to be healthy all round, if it's weight loss. I have substituted oatmeal for natural yogurt, in order to lower BS readings, and it seems to be a good decision so far.

Just had a read on "WebMD.com" about fats, and it's the usual story, "eat healthy fats like olive oil and walnuts, avoid butter and lard". Think I'll give the butter, cream etc a miss and just swap a few high carb foods for lower ones and exercise a bit more.

some people can't do low carb and low fat, they get hungry and drop the diet and go back to their old way of eating. the main thing for now is your BG. the rest can come later after you stabilise.
olive oil is very good and can make up some lost carb calories for you.

 

[Tooconfused]

I've changed oatmeal and now eat natural yogurt with nuts sorry, that's what I meant...

 

[Tooconfused]

Yes, there's a great deal of out of date information being handed out by bastions of medical authority.
.

I totally agree. There is also a lot of information being handed out by non-medical people, that's when folks (like me) get confused

 

[Brunneria]

I totally agree. There is also a lot of information being handed out by non-medical people, that's when folks (like me) get confused

Then do the research yourself.
Many of us have.

You will notice that we have been giving you
sources (to do your own research)
And personal experience

None of us have been handing out medical advice.
That is against the forum rules.

 

[Tooconfused]

Then do the research yourself.

Am trying my best to do just that, and all I read is "avoid butter etc" , which is what I'm doing.

 

[Brunneria]

Am trying my best to do just that, and all I read is "avoid butter etc" , which is what I'm doing.

Then focus on more recent findings.

 

[jack412]

Am trying my best to do just that, and all I read is "avoid butter etc" , which is what I'm doing.

you will be fine avoiding butter, olive oil is very good and recommended by everyone. I often use olive oil on a my tomato 'LC sandwidge', where I wrap up in lettuce leaves instead of bread. sliced deli meat is good as a bread replacement too.
don't eat margarine because of trans fats.

 

[Tooconfused]

Then focus on more recent findings.

Well I only did a google search about "healthy fat" , things like that, "WebMD" was one of the first to come up that's all. It told me all I needed to know, that's it.

Jut seems there are plenty of people confused about eating fat, I was one of them.......that's why I joined this thread. Now everything is fine, thanks, no more confusion

 

[NoCrbs4Me]

Well I only did a google search about "healthy fat" , things like that, "WebMD" was one of the first to come up that's all. It told me all I needed to know, that's it.

Jut seems there are plenty of people confused about eating fat, I was one of them.......that's why I joined this thread. Now everything is fine, thanks, no more confusion

I think I'll avoid WebMD from now on.

 

[Tooconfused]

I think I'll avoid WebMD from now on.

Because a doctor said don't eat butter?

 

[NoCrbs4Me]

Because a doctor said don't eat butter?

Exactly.

 

[phoenix]

This article is from a main stream source, It certainly isn't suggesting low fat (not hugely high either) it suggests sources of fat that are considered 'good' and discusses some of the evidence
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fats-full-story/
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