Carbs or "of which sugars"?

[nigelho]

Sugars have gone up to 11.4. 2 hours after pitta bread. Don't know if that's good it not. I'll look at those low carb buns. Thanks

To keep your BSs down you must watch the amount of TOTAL CARBS you eat. You haven't said if you are type 1 or 2 or what medication you're on. What ever it is it should be enough for a specific amount of carbs so if you eat MORE carbs you will be be high. If your BSs is high BEFORE the meal ( if type 1 you must do a correction then allow for the carbs in the meal) I don't know what type 2 folk do. I'm type 1.

 

[DeejayR]

I like the 1 minute flax bun recipe that mehhh2015 taught me. I slice it and make a sandwich with it: 1 thin slice ham, 2 thin slices provolone cheese, 2 long, sliced sandwich pickles. No need for mayonnaise because the flax and cheese provide the fat.

This sandwich and a variety of salads are my go to foods for work, because I only have 15 minutes to eat.

Recipe...

I put 1 T butter in a small glass measuring cup. I melt the butter in the microwave, typically 15 seconds then 10 more seconds to avoid splatter. Add 1 egg, then 2 T milled flax seed - (I grind 1 T flax seed in a coffee grinder for make 2 T milled flax). Then add 1/4 tsp baking powder, and a pinch salt. Stir thoroughly with a fork, pour into a microwave safe container. I use a round, 5 inch wide porcelain dish with 1 inch sides. Any shape will work. Microwave on high for 1 1/2 minutes. It's fun watching it poof!

I remove it from the dish, let it rest for a minute or two, then slice it in half. Sometimes, if I haven't already had a flax bun, I'll toast it and spread cream cheese on it. Yum!

Sorry, is that T = teaspoon or tablespoon?

 

[Winnie53]

1 tablespoon butter
1 egg
2 tablespoons milled flax seed (which is 1 Tablespoons whole flax seed)
1/4 teaspoon baking powder
a pinch of salt

Thanks for asking for the clarification. We must use different abbreviations in the US.

 

[vit90]

Sugars have gone up to 11.4. 2 hours after pitta bread. Don't know if that's good it not. I'll look at those low carb buns. Thanks

That's definitely bad. If you must eat food with refined carbs like flour, try alternatives with wholemeal flour and in smaller portions.

 

[vit90]

The Carb figure. Carbs are made up of Sugars and slower acting carbs and you need to count them all.

It's not clearcut; I think in the USA the total carb figure includes the fibre content that is carb and little if any of this will end up as blood glucose. But I believe that in Europe the carb figure excludes fibre and the 'as sugars' part is the component that is not starch, but all of it will likely end up as blood sugar, though starch will take slightly longer to get in to your blood.

 

[Winnie53]

Do you know how many carbohydrate grams are in the pita bread? One small slice of my favorite whole grain, rice bread is 11 carbs, and it really spiked my blood glucose, so I stopped eating whole grain breads on day 2 of LCHF diet. The 1 min flax bun recipe is fast, and ridiculously easy to make. It's perfect for sandwiches when I'm on the go.

 

[vit90]

Do you know how many carbohydrate grams are in the pita bread? One small slice of my favorite whole grain, rice bread is 11 carbs, and it really spiked my blood glucose, so I stopped eating whole grain breads on day 2 of LCHF diet. The 1 min flax bun recipe is fast, and ridiculously easy to make. It's perfect for sandwiches when I'm on the go.

56g/100g and a typical pita bread is 60g so that's 34g in the bread alone. I am trying to consume less than 30g of carbs in a whole day.

 

[Winnie53]

Bummer. I had no idea how many carbs grains added until I started this diet. Unlike you, I'm still trying to get my blood glucose down into the normal range. The last couple of days I've had BG levels in the 110's and 120's mg/dL (6.1's and 6.7's mmol/D), which is encouraging. Last night, I had a 2 - 3 ounces chicken with green beans and 1/3 of a yellow summer squash, and bam, my BG went from 112 to 173 (6.2 to 9.6) in 2 hours which did not make me happy. But this morning it was back down to 122 mg/dL (6.7 mmol/D), much to my relief. It helps that I'm now down to 150 lbs. (68 kilograms). Just have 5 more pounds to go to get into the healthy BMI range.

 

[vit90]

Bummer. I had no idea how many carbs grains added until I started this diet. Unlike you, I'm still trying to get my blood glucose down into the normal range. The last couple of days I've had BG levels in the 110's and 120's mg/dL (6.1's and 6.7's mmol/D), which is encouraging. Last night, I had a 2 - 3 ounces chicken with green beans and 1/3 of a yellow summer squash, and bam, my BG went from 112 to 173 (6.2 to 9.6) in 2 hours which did not make me happy. But this morning it was back down to 122 mg/dL (6.7 mmol/D), much to my relief. It helps that I'm now down to 150 lbs. (68 kilograms). Just have 5 more pounds to go to get into the healthy BMI range.

Chicken, green beans and summer squash seems low carb to me - was there nothing else in there you overlooked? Getting into the normal weight BMI range won't magically fix your diabetes, sadly. Some need to get almost to the underweight end of the scale to experience what can described as a reversal while others can be more towards the middle. But above all, by controlling carb consumption you can control your blood sugar level even when you still need to lose more weight.

 

[Winnie53]

Same thing happened tonight. This time I had a small steak wrapped in bacon with sliced zucchini (courgette) sauted in olive oil and herbs. It's weird. So far, I've lost 7 pounds in 4 weeks. Hoping the weight loss continues. I think I'm following the LCHF diet guidelines. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong. I'll eventually figure it out.

 

[vit90]

Same thing happened tonight. This time I had a small steak wrapped in bacon with sliced zucchini (courgette) sauted in olive oil and herbs. It's weird. So far, I've lost 7 pounds in 4 weeks. Hoping the weight loss continues. I think I'm following the LCHF diet guidelines. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong. I'll eventually figure it out.

Sounds good to me - you just need to keep the carbs to a minimum, which you seem to be doing; no chance there are hidden carbs in there somewhere? Do you drink a lot of milk (lots of sugar in the form of lactose in milk) - maybe in tea or coffee?

 

[Winnie53]

No, I don't drink any milk. I don't add anything to my coffee, green tea, or water (other than salt).

I was thinking about that last night. Here's what I ate yesterday...

[Morning reading 122 mg/dL (6.8 mmol/D)]
B... sliced cauliflower cooked in butter; 1 slice bacon; 1 fried egg cooked in bacon fat; coffee; water with 1/8 teaspoon salt
[3 1/4 hours post breakfast 158 mg/dL (8.8 mmol/D ]
L... 1 min flax bun, 1 thin slice ham, 2 thin slices provolone, 3 dill pickles, 1 0.35 oz 70% cocoa dark chocolate
[2 1/2 hours post lunch 127 mg/dL (7.1 mmol/D)]
S... 1/2 advocado; 1 oz almonds; 1 oz swiss cheese; 4 olives stuffed with garlic
[pre-dinner 112 mg/dL (6.2 mmol/D)]
D... steak wrapped in bacon - (3 oz?); zucchini cooked in olive oil with herbs, 1 0.35 oz 70% cocoa dark chocolate
[2 hours post dinner 174 mg/dL (9.7 mmol/D)]
S... small bowl of leafy greens with 1 tablespoon Caesar dressing (homemade - lemon juice, anchovies, garlic clove, Dijon mustard, finely grated parmesan, sea salt, pepper)

[Today's morning reading 114 mg/dL (6.3 mmol/D)]

My husband's trying to understand too. One thought I had is that perhaps I'm not moving enough in the evening. I'm up and down working for 5 - 6 hours earlier in the day but in the late afternoon and evening, I'm reading about LCHF in my books and online.

I started the LCHF diet a month ago after I was told my blood glucose was 284 mg/dL (15.8 mmol/D) - (I hadn't checked my blood glucose in 3-4 years. At that time my highest A1C was 7.3; 163 mg/dL (9.1 mmol/D).

Blood glucose is continuing to drop, but slower now. Perhaps I just need to trust that I'm eating the right foods and continue to eat approved foods.. My first appointment with my doctor is next Wednesday. Waiting to see what he has to say.

The Eat Fat book arrived from the UK yesterday. I'm a third of the way through it now.

 

[vit90]

No, I don't drink any milk. I don't add anything to my coffee, green tea, or water (other than salt).

I was thinking about that last night. Here's what I ate yesterday...

[Morning reading 122 mg/dL (6.8 mmol/D)]
B... sliced cauliflower cooked in butter; 1 slice bacon; 1 fried egg cooked in bacon fat; coffee; water with 1/8 teaspoon salt
[3 1/4 hours post breakfast 158 mg/dL (8.8 mmol/D ]
L... 1 min flax bun, 1 thin slice ham, 2 thin slices provolone, 3 dill pickles, 1 0.35 oz 70% cocoa dark chocolate
[2 1/2 hours post lunch 127 mg/dL (7.1 mmol/D)]
S... 1/2 advocado; 1 oz almonds; 1 oz swiss cheese; 4 olives stuffed with garlic
[pre-dinner 112 mg/dL (6.2 mmol/D)]
D... steak wrapped in bacon - (3 oz?); zucchini cooked in olive oil with herbs, 1 0.35 oz 70% cocoa dark chocolate
[2 hours post dinner 174 mg/dL (9.7 mmol/D)]
S... small bowl of leafy greens with 1 tablespoon Caesar dressing (homemade - lemon juice, anchovies, garlic clove, Dijon mustard, finely grated parmesan, sea salt, pepper)

[Today's morning reading 114 mg/dL (6.3 mmol/D)]

My husband's trying to understand too. One thought I had is that perhaps I'm not moving enough in the evening. I'm up and down working for 5 - 6 hours earlier in the day but in the late afternoon and evening, I'm reading about LCHF in my books and online.

I started the LCHF diet a month ago after I was told my blood glucose was 284 mg/dL (15.8 mmol/D) - (I hadn't checked my blood glucose in 3-4 years. At that time my highest A1C was 7.3; 163 mg/dL (9.1 mmol/D).

Blood glucose is continuing to drop, but slower now. Perhaps I just need to trust that I'm eating the right foods and continue to eat approved foods.. My first appointment with my doctor is next Wednesday. Waiting to see what he has to say.

The Eat Fat book arrived from the UK yesterday. I'm a third of the way through it now.

Your ingredient list sounds brilliant and is making me feel hungry The liver does have a knack of unloading quantities of glucose into the blood unexpectdly, usually in response to physical effort but some report that this can happen in response to stress or other factors. But if the trend is downwards then that has to be good. Don't forget to keep any eye on portion sizes, but from what you have written that looks fine.

 

[Ian DP]

I think the nearer you get to normal BG levels, the slower the lowering process takes. I find if my BG levels are averaging say 1.0mmol higher than normal it will always take me at least a week to get them back down again..... A week of being very careful of what I eat, and exercising more than I have done.

 

[Winnie53]

Not the best day. 114 mg/dL this morning; 154 mg/dL two hours after breakfast; 150 mg/dL four hours after breakfast; 134 mg/dL four and half hours after breakfast, pre-lunch. I hadn't thought about the liver. That's a helpful insight vit90. Ian, I really appreciate hearing your experiences. Keeps me going.

I'm thinking about eating more raw, less cooked vegetables for a while, perhaps with my whole fat, unsweetened yogurt. Thanks for the feedback. I'm determined.

 

[vit90]

Not the best day. 114 mg/dL this morning; 154 mg/dL two hours after breakfast; 150 mg/dL four hours after breakfast; 134 mg/dL four and half hours after breakfast, pre-lunch. I hadn't thought about the liver. That's a helpful insight vit90. Ian, I really appreciate hearing your experiences. Keeps me going.

I'm thinking about eating more raw, less cooked vegetables for a while, perhaps with my whole fat, unsweetened yogurt. Thanks for the feedback. I'm determined.

Motivation is key to all this

 

[Lamont D]

Control is the lock, motivation is the key that opens the lock.

 

[Winnie53]

Control is the lock, motivation is the key that opens the lock.

I don't understand. Can you convey this in another way?

Update: Just before dinner tonight, I had my lowest glucose reading to date... 102 mg/dL (5.7 mmol/D). I've almost broken the 100 barrier!

 

[Baruney]

Hello

Has anyone got any views on the atkins advantage bars sine the last forum discussion in 2012?

Let's say the chocolate brownie 60g bar. Headline act "3.1 net carb" "net carbs are what you count when you are balencing your carb intake on the atkins diet".

Slightly smaller print "15.7 total carbs - 12.6 polyols = 3.1 net carbs.

Small print:

Energy 218 cals
carbs 15.7g
of which sugars 1.1g
of which polyols 12.6g
fibre fat protein etc....

not on pack polyols basically are sugar free sweetness or alcohol sugars.

General view - can make you go to the loo. Affect some people doesn't others. Test to your meter.

Anyhow they are buy one get one half price in certain shops at the moment. Very nice it was too and was used in the context as a Cariable easy snack whilst exercising. Ok on the loo front and bloods acceptable 2 hours after though that was from fasting as didn't have the opportunity to test on first bite.

So what's to do try again with more rigorous testing or bin it and find a better portable low carb snack/energy boost.

To your good health.

 

[Mike d]

I don't understand. Can you convey this in another way?

Update: Just before dinner tonight, I had my lowest glucose reading to date... 102 mg/dL (5.7 mmol/D). I've almost broken the 100 barrier!

Far be it for me to comment on behalf of Nosher but I read it this way ..... you HAVE the controls in your hand ..... never forget YOU can always open that door provided you assume that control. Lose it and you cannot enter. In other words, work

Good analogy if I must say.