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A Month Into Low Carbing

Thank you x I did join MyfitnessPal which is a similar thing and free but I found it a bit tedious filling it all in. What with keeping my own record including BS readings, plus that and this forum being so informative I feel like I spend too much time on here and not enough time moving about .. lol. I appreciate your taking an interest. I hope it continues to work for you xx
MyFitnessPal (MFP) is a pain to fill in at first. But it does remember the foods you've entered so once it's built up a "memory bank" you can just pick from the list or even "copy yesterday", which I find particularly useful. It does get easier. ONWARDS!
 
Most foods on Carbs and Cals or other apps are just a few buttons to press. Agree with Geoff it becomes part of your daily routine and only takes seconds to fill in x It may then highlight something ie high carbs etc that you may be missing xxx hope it works out xx
 
Well the title should be "Two months" now so I thought I'd update now.

I think I've been almost angelic on the Low Carb thing. No usual carby things have passed my lips apart from 2 wobbles when I had a bacon sandwich with real bread one morning and a portion of breaded scampi with corn on the cob (no chips) one evening.

My BS has stayed pretty much in the 6s with an occasional 5 and the odd 7 but I only test on waking and 2 hours after meals (where possible). My weight loss is 1st 1lb so far. 12st 8 to 11st 7lbs. A bit slower than I'd have liked and expected but at least it's going the right way.

Yesterday I had my first blood test since starting the LC/HF diet. I can't wait for the results but I know they should be better but still not out of the woods yet.

I did have a "treat" yesterday. We went to B&Q after and O/H said he felt a bit shaky and needed to eat and Burger King is on the same site so I had a Chicken Royale (no chips). Didn't have a chance to test until about 4 hours after and was surprised to see 4.7. I know I probably missed the "peak" but was still surprised to see it that low. I've tested that long after what I would say was a good low carb meal and not seen that before. Maybe I should live on BK Chicken Royales ...:D

So now we wait for the all important test results. If the DN still thinks I need meds I would be prepared to persevere with the Metformin as I now understand that they have less side effects and no chance of hypos as with the Gliclizide that I wouldn't even try. I don't know. I see some people have managed to stay off meds or come off them and others are getting good readings but are still on meds. Still quite confused. I know you aren't allowed to advise but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts or personal experiences.
 
Afraid I have one chip off the other half a plate every night, oh that beautiful chip sits there, crispy and proud, I cut in half and savour every bite!!i believe it tastes better than a whole plateful.
 
Afraid I have one chip off the other half a plate every night, oh that beautiful chip sits there, crispy and proud, I cut in half and savour every bite!!i believe it tastes better than a whole plateful.

Hahaha! :D I think I've been missing out. I've been so strict with myself that I thought even 1 chip would spoil all my hard work. And could I stop at 1 :) Once I got the taste again .. who knows. I admire your self control x
 
That one chip makes all the difference, my partner would never let me take two! I don't think it's sank in that this is forever
 
Well the title should be "Two months" now so I thought I'd update now.

I think I've been almost angelic on the Low Carb thing. No usual carby things have passed my lips apart from 2 wobbles when I had a bacon sandwich with real bread one morning and a portion of breaded scampi with corn on the cob (no chips) one evening.

My BS has stayed pretty much in the 6s with an occasional 5 and the odd 7 but I only test on waking and 2 hours after meals (where possible). My weight loss is 1st 1lb so far. 12st 8 to 11st 7lbs. A bit slower than I'd have liked and expected but at least it's going the right way.

Yesterday I had my first blood test since starting the LC/HF diet. I can't wait for the results but I know they should be better but still not out of the woods yet.

I did have a "treat" yesterday. We went to B&Q after and O/H said he felt a bit shaky and needed to eat and Burger King is on the same site so I had a Chicken Royale (no chips). Didn't have a chance to test until about 4 hours after and was surprised to see 4.7. I know I probably missed the "peak" but was still surprised to see it that low. I've tested that long after what I would say was a good low carb meal and not seen that before. Maybe I should live on BK Chicken Royales ...:D

So now we wait for the all important test results. If the DN still thinks I need meds I would be prepared to persevere with the Metformin as I now understand that they have less side effects and no chance of hypos as with the Gliclizide that I wouldn't even try. I don't know. I see some people have managed to stay off meds or come off them and others are getting good readings but are still on meds. Still quite confused. I know you aren't allowed to advise but I'd be interested to hear your thoughts or personal experiences.


Good luck with the numbers when they come in Copey, but I'm sure you will have made progress.

If I could comment on your post-Burger King experience. It's not entirely unheard of for scores as you experienced to happen. Sometimes they are as they seem, but sometimes they are a reaction to a very high reading. It sort of shoots up high, then it's like it hits throwing a ball up rowards the ceiling. When it hits the ceiling, it hurtles back down pretty fast, and can sometimes go below the individual's lowest base point. For T1s this can be a real problem, as they can end up with rebound hypos (when their bloods drop fairly sharply), then have to eat to get out of that spot, then go on a bit of a roller-coaster. So, we're pretty fortunate that's less likely to happen to us, as usually have plenty insulin in our systems. Should you repeat the experience, it would be good if you could test. You can always agree with yourself you won't self-flagellate if it goes stratospheric. ;)

Going onto your medication dilemma. Personally, I have done everything in my power to stay off medication. Part of that is "just me", and part of it is because of how we live our lives on Planet Breathe; with part of the year overseas, and the rest in UK. Picking up repeat prescriptions just wouldn't be convenient for me, and I can't see the NHS system allowing me to pick up the script at a pharmacy 4500 miles from home!

On the other hand, many people seem comfortable taking meds, and appreciate the support they provide. Some people believe the written up "collateral benefits" of Metformin to be worthwhile, even when their blood scores come well into line.

The bottom line is we all, individually, have to decide where we set line on the balance scales on the acceptance or otherwise, of medication. Whilst I have done extremely well to date, wrestling my body into coping better, I do have an open mind to the future. Nobody knows how things will work out, and for me, if I couldn't manage my sugars any more, despite my best efforts, or I felt my quality of life would be better with some pharmaceutical support, I would accept it. I like to think I'm determined, as opposed to dogmatic, but I'm positive others would disagree. :)

Keep going. Whatever decision you have made in the past or might make in the future is always open for review. Diabetes isn't a binary condition.
 
Good luck with the numbers when they come in Copey, but I'm sure you will have made progress.

If I could comment on your post-Burger King experience. It's not entirely unheard of for scores as you experienced to happen. Sometimes they are as they seem, but sometimes they are a reaction to a very high reading. It sort of shoots up high, then it's like it hits throwing a ball up rowards the ceiling. When it hits the ceiling, it hurtles back down pretty fast, and can sometimes go below the individual's lowest base point. For T1s this can be a real problem, as they can end up with rebound hypos (when their bloods drop fairly sharply), then have to eat to get out of that spot, then go on a bit of a roller-coaster. So, we're pretty fortunate that's less likely to happen to us, as usually have plenty insulin in our systems. Should you repeat the experience, it would be good if you could test. You can always agree with yourself you won't self-flagellate if it goes stratospheric. ;)

Going onto your medication dilemma. Personally, I have done everything in my power to stay off medication. Part of that is "just me", and part of it is because of how we live our lives on Planet Breathe; with part of the year overseas, and the rest in UK. Picking up repeat prescriptions just wouldn't be convenient for me, and I can't see the NHS system allowing me to pick up the script at a pharmacy 4500 miles from home!

On the other hand, many people seem comfortable taking meds, and appreciate the support they provide. Some people believe the written up "collateral benefits" of Metformin to be worthwhile, even when their blood scores come well into line.

The bottom line is we all, individually, have to decide where we set line on the balance scales on the acceptance or otherwise, of medication. Whilst I have done extremely well to date, wrestling my body into coping better, I do have an open mind to the future. Nobody knows how things will work out, and for me, if I couldn't manage my sugars any more, despite my best efforts, or I felt my quality of life would be better with some pharmaceutical support, I would accept it. I like to think I'm determined, as opposed to dogmatic, but I'm positive others would disagree. :)

Keep going. Whatever decision you have made in the past or might make in the future is always open for review. Diabetes isn't a binary condition.

Probably more hexadecimal.
And no sweat on the rebound.
I've tested similar, no peak beyond 6 or 7.
You're on no meds, and from what I read previously, even off the register, so it should be the same for you I guess. I was going to say a piece of cake, but I guess you can manage that as well ;)
 
Probably more hexadecimal.
And no sweat on the rebound.
I've tested similar, no peak beyond 6 or 7.
You're on no meds, and from what I read previously, even off the register, so it should be the same for you I guess. I was going to say a piece of cake, but I guess you can manage that as well ;)

I've never been a cake eater, so I just don't bother with it at all now. If I'm going to have a carb-tastic treat, I make it something I'll really enjoy.
 
So long as you enjoy it, and can manage the carbs, it's all good :)
 
Good luck with the numbers when they come in Copey, but I'm sure you will have made progress.

If I could comment on your post-Burger King experience. It's not entirely unheard of for scores as you experienced to happen. Sometimes they are as they seem, but sometimes they are a reaction to a very high reading. It sort of shoots up high, then it's like it hits throwing a ball up rowards the ceiling. When it hits the ceiling, it hurtles back down pretty fast, and can sometimes go below the individual's lowest base point. For T1s this can be a real problem, as they can end up with rebound hypos (when their bloods drop fairly sharply), then have to eat to get out of that spot, then go on a bit of a roller-coaster. So, we're pretty fortunate that's less likely to happen to us, as usually have plenty insulin in our systems. Should you repeat the experience, it would be good if you could test. You can always agree with yourself you won't self-flagellate if it goes stratospheric. ;)

Going onto your medication dilemma. Personally, I have done everything in my power to stay off medication. Part of that is "just me", and part of it is because of how we live our lives on Planet Breathe; with part of the year overseas, and the rest in UK. Picking up repeat prescriptions just wouldn't be convenient for me, and I can't see the NHS system allowing me to pick up the script at a pharmacy 4500 miles from home!

On the other hand, many people seem comfortable taking meds, and appreciate the support they provide. Some people believe the written up "collateral benefits" of Metformin to be worthwhile, even when their blood scores come well into line.

The bottom line is we all, individually, have to decide where we set line on the balance scales on the acceptance or otherwise, of medication. Whilst I have done extremely well to date, wrestling my body into coping better, I do have an open mind to the future. Nobody knows how things will work out, and for me, if I couldn't manage my sugars any more, despite my best efforts, or I felt my quality of life would be better with some pharmaceutical support, I would accept it. I like to think I'm determined, as opposed to dogmatic, but I'm positive others would disagree. :)

Keep going. Whatever decision you have made in the past or might make in the future is always open for review. Diabetes isn't a binary condition.

Thanks @AndBreathe I did wonder if it was a kind of "reactive" low after the peak that I never got to see. I appreciate your point of view regarding the Metformin too.

I seem to have hit a bit of a wall right now :( I started off so well and so determined but now I'm struggling real bad. I seem to have lost my way on the LC/HF diet. It's not that I've gone back to eating carbs. It's just that my commitment to having all the fresh stuff in has dwindled and I find myself looking in the cupboard or fridge and the salad is limp and likewise the stir-fry veg and because I don't have anything allowable I just make do with a hard boiled egg, a yogurt and some sunflower seeds. (That's what I had about 11 o'clock this morning). Then come 3 pm I was really hungry and couldn't think what to have quick so I decided to have 2 crispbreads spread with cream cheese. I know crispbreads caused me to spike a bit once before so I decided to test before and after. so my 3 pm reading was 5.7 An hour after eating the c/bread I tested 9.2. 2 hours 7.7 3 hours 7.0 and 4 hours 6.2. That seems a very long time for my levels to come down especially as the crispbreads were only 4.5 carbs each.

By then it was gone 7 and I could have eaten my own leg so I just opened a small tin of salmon, tipped it into a bowl and ate it as was. I now feel lousy, palpitations blurry vision and all out of sorts. I know it's because I haven't eaten enough but my sugars were so high and took so long to come down it scared me???

I know I've got to get my act together and start cooking proper wholesome meals again. I feel I've failed because instead of learning a new healthier way of eating I seem to have become afraid of food and what it can do :(
 
PS: Just read your post on the Pregnant Belly thread and answered it. Funny how it ties in with what I've said here x
 
Thanks @AndBreathe I did wonder if it was a kind of "reactive" low after the peak that I never got to see. I appreciate your point of view regarding the Metformin too.

I seem to have hit a bit of a wall right now :( I started off so well and so determined but now I'm struggling real bad. I seem to have lost my way on the LC/HF diet. It's not that I've gone back to eating carbs. It's just that my commitment to having all the fresh stuff in has dwindled and I find myself looking in the cupboard or fridge and the salad is limp and likewise the stir-fry veg and because I don't have anything allowable I just make do with a hard boiled egg, a yogurt and some sunflower seeds. (That's what I had about 11 o'clock this morning). Then come 3 pm I was really hungry and couldn't think what to have quick so I decided to have 2 crispbreads spread with cream cheese. I know crispbreads caused me to spike a bit once before so I decided to test before and after. so my 3 pm reading was 5.7 An hour after eating the c/bread I tested 9.2. 2 hours 7.7 3 hours 7.0 and 4 hours 6.2. That seems a very long time for my levels to come down especially as the crispbreads were only 4.5 carbs each.

By then it was gone 7 and I could have eaten my own leg so I just opened a small tin of salmon, tipped it into a bowl and ate it as was. I now feel lousy, palpitations blurry vision and all out of sorts. I know it's because I haven't eaten enough but my sugars were so high and took so long to come down it scared me???

I know I've got to get my act together and start cooking proper wholesome meals again. I feel I've failed because instead of learning a new healthier way of eating I seem to have become afraid of food and what it can do :(

Copey - I know, for you a month, or a couple of months seems like ages, but in terms of life experience it's no time at all. You seem to expect you should have cracked everything by now and be in absolute control. Trust me, that's not usually how it works, and even when we have a decent insight into things, dear old diabetes throws us a curved ball, knocks us off balance, and introduces a dollop of self-doubt. Anyone who says it doesn't isn't being entirely truthful with themselves or you. You can trust me on that.

So, yesterday, you got a bit out of synch with mealtimes, and ended up having some crispbreads you haven't had for a while. Your score wasn't what you wanted, but, hey, what's done is done. In reality, we don't know if just as you were eating you didn't have a liver dump, followed by your food, giving you a double dose of glucose going around your system. We don't know if you did or you didn't, and there's no way we can really test for that, unless you are wearing some sort of constant glucose monitoring gizmo, which probably isn't practical.

As a result of your shocking (referring to your reaction; not a judgement on the actual rise, as at 2 hours, it was a 2mmol/l rise, which most would feel to be acceptable). When we eat fast acting carbs, as in the crispbread, you will have a quick rise, as you did, so I actually don't see anything catastrophic in all of that so far.

Then I'm concluding you didn't want to eat as you felt eat with a starting score of 7.7 was too high? But, the truth of the matter is that by stretching things out you are potentially taking yourself back around the same loop.

I'm almost reading that by doing as you did, you're almost punishing yourself for being a bit higher than you wanted to be. Why would you want to do that (rhetorical question)?

Personally, I din't subscribe to the "I eat every 4 hours, like clck-work" or the like, but I do try not to miss meals - particularly if it means I'll be eating very late and going to bed with a full tummy, or not able to decide what to eat, because it's so far into the evening.

I would suggest that sometimes, we just have to say, something along the lines of, "Oh bother! That part of the plan didn't go quite right, and plough on anyway." By the time you have slept and started a new day, it's likely your glucose sheet will be swept clean anyway. Obviously if you have 2 portions of chips, several lemon meringue pies, with fut sweet custard (where did that combo come from?), then the carb hot would be extreme, so in that circumstance, it might take a little longer to level the glucose playing field.

Copey - I urge you to try to start see the positives in what you are doing, and not focus on the negatives or beat yourself up when things don't quite go right. The thing is; we sometimes learn the most valuable lessons from our mistakes or the less good things that happen. We move on very quickly, with a quick smile from a good post-meal score, we don't move on quite so quickly from those scores that give us that "Oh s&^%, funny tummy feeling". But, we don't forget those messages, and try not to repeat them?

So, a couple of things:
Try to have some sort of routine in your life
Measure and learn from the mistakes, without beating yourself up
Keep decent food in the house, including stuff that's easy and quick to prepare and doesn't marmalise the bloods. For example, I can pretty much guarantee that if I have a 3 egg cheese omelette, with or without a bit of salad, my 2 hour score will be less that my starting. It's virtually always been that way. So, if I need something quick, and I can't be bothered to cook, I might go to that. I can prepare it quickly. I can swap around some of the add-ins, to vary the flavours, and it's cheap.

So, as usual some things to think about, but be positive.
 
Copey - I know, for you a month, or a couple of months seems like ages, but in terms of life experience it's no time at all. You seem to expect you should have cracked everything by now and be in absolute control. Trust me, that's not usually how it works, and even when we have a decent insight into things, dear old diabetes throws us a curved ball, knocks us off balance, and introduces a dollop of self-doubt. Anyone who says it doesn't isn't being entirely truthful with themselves or you. You can trust me on that.

So, yesterday, you got a bit out of synch with mealtimes, and ended up having some crispbreads you haven't had for a while. Your score wasn't what you wanted, but, hey, what's done is done. In reality, we don't know if just as you were eating you didn't have a liver dump, followed by your food, giving you a double dose of glucose going around your system. We don't know if you did or you didn't, and there's no way we can really test for that, unless you are wearing some sort of constant glucose monitoring gizmo, which probably isn't practical.

As a result of your shocking (referring to your reaction; not a judgement on the actual rise, as at 2 hours, it was a 2mmol/l rise, which most would feel to be acceptable). When we eat fast acting carbs, as in the crispbread, you will have a quick rise, as you did, so I actually don't see anything catastrophic in all of that so far.

Then I'm concluding you didn't want to eat as you felt eat with a starting score of 7.7 was too high? But, the truth of the matter is that by stretching things out you are potentially taking yourself back around the same loop.

I'm almost reading that by doing as you did, you're almost punishing yourself for being a bit higher than you wanted to be. Why would you want to do that (rhetorical question)?

Personally, I din't subscribe to the "I eat every 4 hours, like clck-work" or the like, but I do try not to miss meals - particularly if it means I'll be eating very late and going to bed with a full tummy, or not able to decide what to eat, because it's so far into the evening.

I would suggest that sometimes, we just have to say, something along the lines of, "Oh bother! That part of the plan didn't go quite right, and plough on anyway." By the time you have slept and started a new day, it's likely your glucose sheet will be swept clean anyway. Obviously if you have 2 portions of chips, several lemon meringue pies, with fut sweet custard (where did that combo come from?), then the carb hot would be extreme, so in that circumstance, it might take a little longer to level the glucose playing field.

Copey - I urge you to try to start see the positives in what you are doing, and not focus on the negatives or beat yourself up when things don't quite go right. The thing is; we sometimes learn the most valuable lessons from our mistakes or the less good things that happen. We move on very quickly, with a quick smile from a good post-meal score, we don't move on quite so quickly from those scores that give us that "Oh s&^%, funny tummy feeling". But, we don't forget those messages, and try not to repeat them?

So, a couple of things:
Try to have some sort of routine in your life
Measure and learn from the mistakes, without beating yourself up
Keep decent food in the house, including stuff that's easy and quick to prepare and doesn't marmalise the bloods. For example, I can pretty much guarantee that if I have a 3 egg cheese omelette, with or without a bit of salad, my 2 hour score will be less that my starting. It's virtually always been that way. So, if I need something quick, and I can't be bothered to cook, I might go to that. I can prepare it quickly. I can swap around some of the add-ins, to vary the flavours, and it's cheap.

So, as usual some things to think about, but be positive.

Aww thanks @AndBreathe x Sorry I've not had a chance to reply til now but I had my Retinopathy check this morning, then went on to visit a relative in hospital who is very poorly and then shopping to make sure I have plenty of things in.

You always talk such a lot of sense and are very reassuring which is what I need. Yes, I feel very needy (blush). I sometimes think that in the quest to know everything I read too much about it and the advice is so conflicting. Instead of sitting here reading all and everything I should just get out in that kitchen and advance plan some meals like the casserole you mentioned on the other thread. The old "always on hand" ready meals in between proper fresh cooked meals is a hard habit to break.

I just get days when I think I can't face another omelette and so much salad is boring as I've never really liked it but force it down. I get days when I just feel hungry all the time whereas when I first started the LC/HF diet I never felt like that. Probably not having enough fats and protein.

I have to change my mind-set and stop seeing food as the enemy as I know there are lots of good things I can have in place of all the carbs. I think it hit home to me after striving so hard towards the blood test on Monday that there is no quick fix and this is for life (literally).

We had lunch in the cafeteria at the hospital and it was all panninis and cakes but I only had a small side salad with some coleslaw as I don't eat cheese (only cream cheese) and that was all they had. Watched my O/H filling his face with pannini lol.
Starving again now so will go and find something out of all the things I got in stock to tide me over til dinner.

Thank you again for your patience and advice xxx
 
I think it would be a good idea to sit down and do a 7 or 14 day meal plan for each of your 3 meals. It doesn't have to be something different everyday, and many can be repeated. You don't even have to follow it in order, and have, say, salmon salad because it's Wednesday. You could try stocking up on some frozen veg for times when you can't be bothered cooking fresh. My "go to" food when I can't think of anything else is a grill and fry up because it is quick, easy, and I enjoy it. If I'm hungry between meals (which is VERY rare) I have a decaf coffee with some cream, or just a cup of tea.

Have you tried the much talked about Lidl high protein rolls? I have recently tried them. I cut them in half and freeze them, then just have a half toasted, loads of butter, with bacon and egg, or poached eggs, or even my salads. They are delicious, satisfy my desire for bread, and slightly less than 4g carbs per half. So far they haven't caused me to have spikes at all.

Salads can get boring, but I try to spice them up a bit. Even a pickled onion makes them tastier, (I slice mine). You can also try some desserts. Maybe a couple of strawberries chopped up in a full fat yogurt, or a few raspberries with cream.
 
I think it would be a good idea to sit down and do a 7 or 14 day meal plan for each of your 3 meals. It doesn't have to be something different everyday, and many can be repeated. You don't even have to follow it in order, and have, say, salmon salad because it's Wednesday. You could try stocking up on some frozen veg for times when you can't be bothered cooking fresh. My "go to" food when I can't think of anything else is a grill and fry up because it is quick, easy, and I enjoy it. If I'm hungry between meals (which is VERY rare) I have a decaf coffee with some cream, or just a cup of tea.

Have you tried the much talked about Lidl high protein rolls? I have recently tried them. I cut them in half and freeze them, then just have a half toasted, loads of butter, with bacon and egg, or poached eggs, or even my salads. They are delicious, satisfy my desire for bread, and slightly less than 4g carbs per half. So far they haven't caused me to have spikes at all.

Salads can get boring, but I try to spice them up a bit. Even a pickled onion makes them tastier, (I slice mine). You can also try some desserts. Maybe a couple of strawberries chopped up in a full fat yogurt, or a few raspberries with cream.

Thanks @ Bluetit1802 Yes, that's a good idea to do a meal plan, although come to think of it I did log all my foods in a Word document up to quite recently so I could go back and just make a plan based on what I was having when I was full of enthusiasm and determination.

As for the Lidl HP rolls. I thought they were the answer to my prayers and although I didn't go mad with them I did keep a few in the freezer - in fact I think I still have one or two - but I always felt bloated and not good after eating just a half. Sad to say, I don't think they agree with me. Not tried pickled onion with salad. Full fat yogurt and berries are my good old standby (when I remember to restock or defrost the frozen berries. I think it is all in the pre-planning and not running out of things.
 
Copey I'm in a similar position to you.
Been on LCHF for a month now and I'm getting some strange readings. Was missing meals as I though that would bring my BG down, but I seem to be someone who gets on better if I eat more, readings wise.
But as I want / need to lose weight I find it hard to have 3 meals a day and eat high fat things.
I've never really eaten breakfast and prefer to wait until later and have brunch.

I'm trying so hard, but I do have a sweet tooth so it's hard and I also haven't got my head around the specialised things you need to buy in order to bake things.
As you said, by reading everything and trying so hard to get it right, I'm just confusing myself.
I take my readings but I feel that I need a master class in how to interpret them!

However the good news is that I've just weighed myself and I've lost 3Kg!
 
I don't defrost my raspberries. By the time I eat them, they have softened a little, but are still firm. I don't enjoy them so much when they go soft.

That's a good idea about going back to your records. I doubt any of us eats wholly new foods the whole time. I know I don't! I do mix it up a fair bit, and look for new ideas regularly, by surfing online.

What were your favourite meals before you were diagnosed. Have you tried googling low carb versions of your favourites? Some things will be less easy to do than others, but you might be lucky.

And finally, have you looked at any of the ready made meals in the supermarkets to see if any of them are acceptable to your level of low carbing? For example, a couple of months ago, MrB just didn't want to cook, as we'd been putting through purgatory (clothes shopping for him), and time was pressing on. He fancied Mac and Cheese, which was a step too far for me to consider, so, as we were in M&S I trawled a ready something for myself. If I recall, I think I ended up having a 2 serving size Cauli cheese, or cauli and broccoli cheese. It wasn't perfect, but it was my compromise on the day

On those days when you couldn't be bothered before, what would you eat, specifically. I know you say ready meal, but which ready meals?
 
Copey I'm in a similar position to you.
Been on LCHF for a month now and I'm getting some strange readings. Was missing meals as I though that would bring my BG down, but I seem to be someone who gets on better if I eat more, readings wise.
But as I want / need to lose weight I find it hard to have 3 meals a day and eat high fat things.
I've never really eaten breakfast and prefer to wait until later and have brunch.

I'm trying so hard, but I do have a sweet tooth so it's hard and I also haven't got my head around the specialised things you need to buy in order to bake things.
As you said, by reading everything and trying so hard to get it right, I'm just confusing myself.
I take my readings but I feel that I need a master class in how to interpret them!

However the good news is that I've just weighed myself and I've lost 3Kg!

Hi, Learning2me. First of all congrats on your weight loss x At least that's encouraging. I can't advise on the readings because I'm still confused. I've read on several websites that taking a morning reading and 2 hours after eating would give you an idea if you are getting those numbers down but when I mentioned that I'd eaten something that gave me a surprisingly high reading even though I thought it was on the allowed list I was told I should test before and then at half hour, an hour etc. to see what foods cause spikes and whereas I know it makes sense to screen foods out like that I just can't spend all that time on testing. I know I said above that I did but that was because I knew I shouldn't have had the crispbreads really and decided to see what they did to me and as I said I was shocked just how high it went. I know I hit the panic button but I'd just been reading an article about normal blood sugars and how high numbers like that can increase your risk of heart attack and stroke which petrifies me at my age.

I agree that getting together all the special flours and ingredients for things you want to try and make is quite a task in itself and I find it expensive too, especially on a pension.

Anyway, we mustn't give up. There are charts online that give you an idea of what to aim for. Good luck xx

I don't defrost my raspberries. By the time I eat them, they have softened a little, but are still firm. I don't enjoy them so much when they go soft.

That's a good idea about going back to your records. I doubt any of us eats wholly new foods the whole time. I know I don't! I do mix it up a fair bit, and look for new ideas regularly, by surfing online.

What were your favourite meals before you were diagnosed. Have you tried googling low carb versions of your favourites? Some things will be less easy to do than others, but you might be lucky.

And finally, have you looked at any of the ready made meals in the supermarkets to see if any of them are acceptable to your level of low carbing? For example, a couple of months ago, MrB just didn't want to cook, as we'd been putting through purgatory (clothes shopping for him), and time was pressing on. He fancied Mac and Cheese, which was a step too far for me to consider, so, as we were in M&S I trawled a ready something for myself. If I recall, I think I ended up having a 2 serving size Cauli cheese, or cauli and broccoli cheese. It wasn't perfect, but it was my compromise on the day

On those days when you couldn't be bothered before, what would you eat, specifically. I know you say ready meal, but which ready meals?

Hi, AndBreathe x I've never tried eating my raspberries not defrosted but I wouldn't rule it out. I was never an adventurous cook, just wanted to spend as little time as possible in the kitchen. I think it's potatoes I miss most. Roast, boiled, chips occasionally, always featured quite heavily in all my meals. They were more filling than just vegetables somehow. I used to eat all the wrong things, spaghetti bolognese, shepherds pie, pizza, Chinese take-aways, burgers in buns etc. And often when I couldn't be bothered it would just be things like egg and beans on toast, or soup with a chunk of crusty bread. I also liked Jacket potatoes with various toppings. By ready meals it was more like fish fingers, meat pies, etc.

I failed again today :( I went out and bought loads of low carb stuff and spent ages making cauliflower rice - messy business, I had bits of cauliflower everywhere and then I topped it with what I judged to be a within limit amount of spicy tomato and herb thing that was supposed to be for a pasta bake. Trouble was, O/H decided to have a pizza and he left some and I was still hungry so I started off just eating the cheese topping off the bit he didn't eat but then found myself cutting off bit by bit of the bread base (blush).

I spend hours looking at carbs in stuff which looks OK until you realise it's per 100 grams and the pack is 3-500 :(

I think I'm a lost cause despite all your help but hey ho, tomorrow is another day - a new beginning and not as busy as today so I might even get in that kitchen and do some proper cooking.

Sorry, I'm so tired at the moment I can't think straight. xxxx
 
Hi, Learning2me. First of all congrats on your weight loss x At least that's encouraging. I can't advise on the readings because I'm still confused. I've read on several websites that taking a morning reading and 2 hours after eating would give you an idea if you are getting those numbers down but when I mentioned that I'd eaten something that gave me a surprisingly high reading even though I thought it was on the allowed list I was told I should test before and then at half hour, an hour etc. to see what foods cause spikes and whereas I know it makes sense to screen foods out like that I just can't spend all that time on testing. I know I said above that I did but that was because I knew I shouldn't have had the crispbreads really and decided to see what they did to me and as I said I was shocked just how high it went. I know I hit the panic button but I'd just been reading an article about normal blood sugars and how high numbers like that can increase your risk of heart attack and stroke which petrifies me at my age.

I agree that getting together all the special flours and ingredients for things you want to try and make is quite a task in itself and I find it expensive too, especially on a pension.

Anyway, we mustn't give up. There are charts online that give you an idea of what to aim for. Good luck xx



Hi, AndBreathe x I've never tried eating my raspberries not defrosted but I wouldn't rule it out. I was never an adventurous cook, just wanted to spend as little time as possible in the kitchen. I think it's potatoes I miss most. Roast, boiled, chips occasionally, always featured quite heavily in all my meals. They were more filling than just vegetables somehow. I used to eat all the wrong things, spaghetti bolognese, shepherds pie, pizza, Chinese take-aways, burgers in buns etc. And often when I couldn't be bothered it would just be things like egg and beans on toast, or soup with a chunk of crusty bread. I also liked Jacket potatoes with various toppings. By ready meals it was more like fish fingers, meat pies, etc.

I failed again today :( I went out and bought loads of low carb stuff and spent ages making cauliflower rice - messy business, I had bits of cauliflower everywhere and then I topped it with what I judged to be a within limit amount of spicy tomato and herb thing that was supposed to be for a pasta bake. Trouble was, O/H decided to have a pizza and he left some and I was still hungry so I started off just eating the cheese topping off the bit he didn't eat but then found myself cutting off bit by bit of the bread base (blush).

I spend hours looking at carbs in stuff which looks OK until you realise it's per 100 grams and the pack is 3-500 :(

I think I'm a lost cause despite all your help but hey ho, tomorrow is another day - a new beginning and not as busy as today so I might even get in that kitchen and do some proper cooking.

Sorry, I'm so tired at the moment I can't think straight. xxxx
Glad to see there's another human here, we can't change over night and I've no doubt we will have blips here and there but in the main we manage, (a bit) x
 
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