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FREESTYLE LIBRE ON SALE!!!!

pinewood said:
I've just seen on the Facebook group that Abbott has posted advice saying you shouldn't use the reader in-flight and should rely on finger pricks only. I fly regularly and have never had any problems at all. Anyone know the reason for their advice?
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I suspect it is down to radio signal emissions rather than it giving bad information (even though the range is tiny and you can use Bluetooth in-flight).
slip said:
@buzzmonkey the current length of said piece of string is at least 6 months, although I believe Abbot are making some sort of announcement on Saturday(?) and rumor has it they are upping production.
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Hopefully the announcement will be something to do with the mythical phone app!
 
May be they are going to announce that they will be avaliable on the nhs, they have improved accuracy/reliability, solved the skin irration problem, and sensor failures are now a thing of the past !

Now that would be a big announcement!
 
@mikeg1964 I admire your, how can I put it.......... delusional mind! :D

On an up note, some guys who registered around March time have received emails telling them they can buy next week. Been awhile since those sorts of emails have been sent out apparently.
 
I went on the waiting list on 1st April and today received an e-mail telling me I would get another e-mail in a week's time, giving me access to the shop, where I may place my order. This means I would have been on the waiting list for seven and a half months.

Lucky for me, I start on the Medtronic Enlite sensor next week, fully funded by the NHS, so the next person on the list can get the Libre set aside for me.

I wonder how quickly the waiting time will be reduced, with their increased production!
 
pinewood said:
I've just seen on the Facebook group that Abbott has posted advice saying you shouldn't use the reader in-flight and should rely on finger pricks only. I fly regularly and have never had any problems at all. Anyone know the reason for their advice?
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I fly often too. No problems. Very short signal. My blood sugar goes bonkers when flying, goes up and up. Very odd.
 
I spoke with the representatives on the Libre stand at DPC2015 who informed me that the Libre Accuracy study is now complete, and that the data is in the public domain. Whilst my friend Google didn't reveal anything, I was told that the study had returned a MARD of 11% over 13,000 readings over 28 days. Once I have a copy of the report, I'll post some more info on the findings.

With the data, Abbott are now in a position to present it to NICE and the NHS to look at getting it onto the prescription list.

It was also confirmed that both Sweden and Germany now have the Libre on prescription.

I asked after the mythical app, and the response was that if there is one, it should be arriving in the not too distant future. Sounds like good news to me!?!?
 
tim2000s said:
I spoke with the representatives on the Libre stand at DPC2015 who informed me that the Libre Accuracy study is now complete, and that the data is in the public domain. Whilst my friend Google didn't reveal anything, I was told that the study had returned a MARD of 11% over 13,000 readings over 28 days. Once I have a copy of the report, I'll post some more info on the findings.

With the data, Abbott are now in a position to present it to NICE and the NHS to look at getting it onto the prescription list.

It was also confirmed that both Sweden and Germany now have the Libre on prescription.

I asked after the mythical app, and the response was that if there is one, it should be arriving in the not too distant future. Sounds like good news to me!?!?
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Thanks for sharing this with us. Good to see that healthcare in other countries are adopting the Libre.

Will be interesting to see what the NHS eligibility criteria will be.
 
Anyone else get invited to do an online survey today? It's about an adapter Abbott is looking to release which will mean you scan your sensor with the adapter and see the results/history on your iPhone, together with an estimated A1C. It looks good but I would prefer it if Apple allowed NFC to be used so that the adapter isn't needed either...
 
I was invited to do a survey but every time i try to complete it is says i am using an old browser even though i switched to an up to date browser (google chrome)
 
There's a good reason why Abbott were increasing production. They knew the results of their accuracy study. I've summarised it here and this is the actual report.

Basically, in tandem with a push that is going on with a number of Diabetic specialists, I surmise that they now think they have the evidence to get it on NICE's radar for T1s and T2s and that they can encourage T2 testing without fingerpricking (this post details the Abbott care triangle).

If I was a betting man, I think they believe they now have a hot potato on their hands!
 
mikeg1964 said:
May be they are going to announce that they will be avaliable on the nhs, they have improved accuracy/reliability, solved the skin irration problem, and sensor failures are now a thing of the past !

Now that would be a big announcement!
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I'm getting pretty fed up with the sensors. Of the last 3 I've had all of them have fallen off. I'm also on my 3rd reader since starting with them about a year ago.

3 is the magic number perhaps.

The idea is a game changer for blood glucose monitoring, the reality is not so much. They are doing the classic keep things as cheap as possible to generate margins when in fact what it will do is destroy margins; I can't really be bothered to buy another one of these after my new (replacement) one gets sent out.
 
Having thought about this for longer and having seen a number of items more widely related to the Libre, I'm not at all sure that it is really targeted at T1s. I think it is really a device for all Diabetics with a huge eye on the t2 world. This is why: http://crick-tech-munch.blogspot.com/2015/11/freestylelibre-how-abbott-can-tie-care.html

And with regard to margins. Someone worked out the components in the Libre sensor cost about a fiver and similar for the reader.
 
tim2000s said:
Having thought about this for longer and having seen a number of items more widely related to the Libre, I'm not at all sure that it is really targeted at T1s. I think it is really a device for all Diabetics with a huge eye on the t2 world. This is why: http://crick-tech-munch.blogspot.com/2015/11/freestylelibre-how-abbott-can-tie-care.html

And with regard to margins. Someone worked out the components in the Libre sensor cost about a fiver and similar for the reader.
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Wow - is that is true on the margins then they are obviously pitching the price at health care providers (by which I mean when the dear old NHS comes along they say the 'real world' price is already fixed; that's what you have to pay) whilst field testing on early adopting paying diabetics. All of which makes me less happy to continue with them.

The reader is just pants and the sensors are objectively not fit for purpose. But none of that matters once you sell them in bulk to people who don't actually use them i.e. the PCO's who would essentially approve the prescription of these things once NICE has approved the principle. Then when they fall off the patient will just get another prescription and a telling off from their GP for not taking care of the device...
 
Dillinger said:
Wow - is that is true on the margins then they are obviously pitching the price at health care providers (by which I mean when the dear old NHS comes along they say the 'real world' price is already fixed; that's what you have to pay) whilst field testing on early adopting paying diabetics. All of which makes me less happy to continue with them.
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Production costs are one thing. To release this globally, they have the R&D costs and the regulatory approval costs, plus the tooling costs, so while the actual component costs of each individual item are small (the system isn't that complex), the R&D costs of the wire enzyme system are probably recouping some of teh costs spent on the Navigator as it is the same technology, and there will also be cost recovery against the algo in the reader, which was also part of the Navigator.

So all in all, the marginal cost of the components is relatively small. It's the IP and Resource costs that I suspect have pushed the price up, given how low selling the Navigator is/was.
 
dancer said:
I went on the waiting list on 1st April and today received an e-mail telling me I would get another e-mail in a week's time, giving me access to the shop, where I may place my order. This means I would have been on the waiting list for seven and a half months.

Lucky for me, I start on the Medtronic Enlite sensor next week, fully funded by the NHS, so the next person on the list can get the Libre set aside for me.

I wonder how quickly the waiting time will be reduced, with their increased production!
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Just confirming that Abbott did send the second e-mail, a week later, so that is over seven and a half months I was on the waiting list.
 
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