Fatty Liver

[carina62]

@daisyduck
Carbohydrate (g) 33.6 17.1

Ouch! I couldn't manage that amount of carbs in just one meal! I'd be starving all the time.

@carina62 I forgot to mention, I'm trying to keep to 20g of carbs each day (so combining low carb and low calorie) because I very rarely feel hungry when I'm low carbing - occasionally I've had a few more carbs but not many.

My daily carb intake varies between 50g - 80g a day and it seems to be OK. By the way I'm not going to be using exantediet meal replacement shakes, I'm going to be using Almased (if you google it you'll see the website). Today is my first day of 5:2 @ 800 cals and will see how I get on.

 

[NoCrbs4Me]

Here is a breakdown on the strawberry shake (in the product details dropdown)
http://www.exantediet.com/diet-products/meal-replacement-strawberry-shake/11118436.html
At 17 carbs per shake it would be too high for me but good luck and let us know how you get on
Nutritional Information Per 100g Per 51g Serving % RI Per 51/100g
Energy kJ 1660 847
Energy kcal 392 200
Fat (g) 13 6.6
(of which saturates) (g) 6.1 3.1
Carbohydrate (g) 33.6 17.1
(of which sugars) (g) 27 13.7
Fibre (g) 8 4.1
Protein (g) 34.7 17.7

Personally I wouldn't eat this fake food. Here's what's in it:

Skimmed Milk Powder (42%), Vegetable Fat Concentrate (Refined Soybean Oil, Maltodextrin, Milk Proteins, Emulsifier (Soy Lecithins), Antioxidant (Fatty Acid Esters of Ascorbic Acid, Alpha-Tocopherol)), Whey Protein Concentrate (Milk), Soy Protein, Vegetable Creamer Concentrate (Refined Coconut Oil, Whey Powder (Milk), Milk Protein, Stabilizer (Triphosphates Acetylated Oxidised Starch), Free Flowing Agent (Tricalcium Phosphate)), Maltodextrin, Inulin, Potassium Citrate, Natural Flavouring, Emulsifiers (Xanthan Gum, Guar Gum), Colour (Beetroot), DI Potassium Phosphate, Salt, Calcium Chloride, Magnesium Oxide, Vitamin Premix (Biotin, Chromium, Copper, Fluoride, Folic Acid, Iodine, Iron, Manganese, Molybdenum, Niacin, Pantothenic Acid, Selenium, Vitamin A, Vitamin B1, Vitamin B12, Vitamin B2, Vitamin B6, Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Vitamin E, Vitamin K1 And Zinc), Sweetener (Sucralose).

I've seen that a few people on the forum have done the 800 calorie a day diet using real food with good results. I think the original Newcastle diet used the shakes because it was a science experiment and they wanted the subjects eating as similarly as possible and this was an easy way to do it. And the meal replacement manufacturer supplied it for free.

 

[douglas99]

My daily carb intake varies between 50g - 80g a day and it seems to be OK. By the way I'm not going to be using exantediet meal replacement shakes, I'm going to be using Almased (if you google it you'll see the website). Today is my first day of 5:2 @ 800 cals and will see how I get on.

I just used the Tesco shakes for the Newcastle diet.
No issues at all while I was on the diet, and it seems to have reversed my diabetes quite well.
'Reversed' in the sense I can now tolerate carbs again.

 

[Roytaylorjasonfunglover]

My daily carb intake varies between 50g - 80g a day and it seems to be OK. By the way I'm not going to be using exantediet meal replacement shakes, I'm going to be using Almased (if you google it you'll see the website). Today is my first day of 5:2 @ 800 cals and will see how I get on.

https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/fatty-liver-t2d-25/

This is a post by Jason Fung, a doctor specialising in kidneys, and he therefore deals with patients in the last phase of type 2 diabetes, and therefore he has taken an interest in the liver. Alpha and omega is weightloss, good luck!

 

[daisyduck]

Sorry I quoted the wrong site .. this is the Almased breakdown.. slightly better on the carbs

*50g Almased mixed with water

Per 100g Serving Per 50*g Serving
Energy (kJ/kcal) 1501 / 360 961 / 230
Fat (g) 2.0 6.6
of which saturates (g) 1.0 0.5
Carbohydrates (g) 30.6 15.3
of which sugars (g) 30.54 15.27
Fibre (g) 0.4 0.2
Protein (g) 53.4 26.7
Salt (g) 1.7 0.85

Main nutrients (per 100 g Almased Powder):

Protein: 53.4 g, Carbohydrates: 30.6 g, Fat: 2.0 g. Calorific value for 100 g = 1505 kJ (360 kcal).

Soya protein isolate 50%, honey 25% (of which honey enzymes 15mg), low-fat yogurt powder (Milk) 23%, potassium chloride, magnesium citrate, silicon dioxide as an anticaking agent, calcium citrate, vitamin C, niacin, colour: riboflavin, vitamin E, zinc oxide, ferrous fumarate, manganese sulphate, D-pantothenate, calcium, ribofl avin (vitamin B2), vitamin B6, thiamin (vitamin B1), vitamin A, folic acid, potassium iodide, sodium selenite, biotin, vitamin D3, vitamin B12

Allergy advice: for allergens see ingredients in bold.


Read more at https://www.boots.com/en/Almased-Meal-Replacement-Soya-Honey-Yoghurt_1784349/#KuJjp4eUPW0D6EtU.99

 

[AtkinsMo]

Oh dear, just eat real food. Moderate proteins - leafy green vegetables - natural fats until you feel full and don't eat again till you are hungry. All this artificial rubbish can't be good for any living organism. I struggle to understand this stuff, just eat real food.

 

[Resurgam]

I suspected as much - enough carbs for three meals in the shakes alone.
I have always been so impressed by eating low carb meals, I love salmon, steaks, roast chicken - though being group A it goes against the blood group typing. I love huge salads with cheese and eggs, I love getting on the scales and seeing I have lose weight - I think I deserve it after all the anguish I got over diets which never worked no matter how hard I tried. I mean - losing weight - and most of it fat, with no effort at all.
Of course if my diabetes doesn't go away after I have lost all the weight I want to I'll have to try cutting back a bit but hopefully my Hba1c will drop as my BG levels have gone down.