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Lexiann12

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Hi all....im newly diagnosed with type 2..i have been put on metformin 500
1 for the 1st week,2 on the second week and 3 on the 3rd week..i was also put on ramapril and a statin...since i stared taking the metformin i have had an upset stomach..to be honest ive spent most of my time in the bathroom...i have got an appointment with the nurse tomorrow,hoping she can sort things out for me...i feel as weak as a kitten...has anyone else had
 
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chaoticliloj

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Non-insulin injectable medication (incretin mimetics)
Hi, I had the same with Metformin, it does take your body time. I was told to reduce back a tablet and then increase again after another week. Unfortunately it didn’t help so I was then put onto SR (slow release). I still get an upset stomach but it’s not as bad as it was on the first metformin.
Can’t say about the other 2 tablets as not on those
 

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Hi all....im newly diagnosed with type 2..i have been put on metformin 500
1 for the 1st week,2 on the second week and 3 on the 3rd week..i was also put on ramapril and a statin...since i stared taking the metformin i have had an upset stomach..to be honest ive spent most of my time in the bathroom...i have got an appointment with the nurse tomorrow,hoping she can sort things out for me...i feel as weak as a kitten...has anyone else had

Hi Lexiann and welcome to the Forum. As this is your first post let me tag in @daisy1 for her useful info post.
I am lucky to be able to tolerate Metformin well after an initial week or so of upset stomach. As chaoticliloj says ask for the slow release version, a lot of people can tolerate that one better. Stomach upsets are way less common with Ramipril or Statins so the Metformin is the most likely culprit. It’s a shame you were started on all three at once as it maybe difficult to work out which one is causing this.
 

JoKalsbeek

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Hi all....im newly diagnosed with type 2..i have been put on metformin 500
1 for the 1st week,2 on the second week and 3 on the 3rd week..i was also put on ramapril and a statin...since i stared taking the metformin i have had an upset stomach..to be honest ive spent most of my time in the bathroom...i have got an appointment with the nurse tomorrow,hoping she can sort things out for me...i feel as weak as a kitten...has anyone else had
Like others said, most likely it's the metformin. It had the same effect on me, for weeks. Practicaly lived in the bathroom. Slow Release metformin wasn't available in the Netherlands at that time; it was a year later, but by then I didn't need it anymore. I'd decided to do everything I could to be medication free (for diabetes at least), and the low carb, high fat approach worked for me. Just so you know, if you see the nurse today, and you're put on slow release metformin, and your problems persist (even when only taking the meds with food, which I've gathered might help as well), you have other options. Metformin is the go-to at first diagnosis, but there are other meds, and if you don't want/tolerate those, there's still a low carb diet. It'll be okay.
 
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daisy1

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@Lexiann12

Hello Lexiann12 and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Resurgam

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I was unable to take even a single tablet of Metformin, along with a statin - I was so ill I could not function for a month until I threw them away - that was Christmas 2016 - since then I have been able to take advantage of the more energetic person I became on low carb and have achieved normal numbers.
I suspect that HCPs take no notice of the possible side effects of the drugs they prescribe as being food for us, and I could not report the dreadful effects I suffered as I began to take the two tablets the same day and stopped the same day too.
I find that I can stick to the diet very easily, I just have to consider how I felt when I was taking the tablets.