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Lachie

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Had a blood test in, I think, February 2019, where my reading was 45, heading towards type 2 diabetes. A bit overweight, with an underactive thyroid and COPD, kind of means I'm up against it, but hopefully I can get stubborn about doing something to not head right into the condition. Attending a national programme for diabetes, via my GP, plenty of help online and invested in a couple of books. Need better breakfast and lunch ideas, what I've seen so far, are long and involved preparation. So, here goes........
 

bulkbiker

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Hi and welcomeIi'll tag in @daisy1 for her intro piece.
Which books have you started out with out of interest?
Stubborn is very good ... Also which program are you attending.. some of them can be a bit "orthodox" i.e. not very helpful (amazing I know but true).
 

Tophat1900

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Coffee and cream. Omelette's are quick and easy way to making a great breakfast, there many a way to prepare eggs or the all time classic bacon and eggs is a big hit among people who follow a low carb diet and have great success at lowering numbers and gaining sustainable control. Also a popular keto version of porridge on the link below.

www.dietdoctor.com is a well used site for meal ideas and information in general. This site offers a lot of info on the main page. And I'm sure people will chime in with various other options .

Welcome aboard!
 

Lachie

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Hi and welcomeIi'll tag in @daisy1 for her intro piece.
Which books have you started out with out of interest?
Stubborn is very good ... Also which program are you attending.. some of them can be a bit "orthodox" i.e. not very helpful (amazing I know but true).
Hi bulbiker, the book I got was one from a series in the Daily Mail newspaper. Ethos is a bit strange, ie, saturated fat is ok!??. No breakfast or lunch quick ideas. I work all over the place, and a shift worker. The programme is one which my GP has referred me to, so it starts on June 6th, so can't comment on it being good or bad.
 

bulkbiker

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Hi bulbiker, the book I got was one from a series in the Daily Mail newspaper. Ethos is a bit strange, ie, saturated fat is ok!??. No breakfast or lunch quick ideas. I work all over the place, and a shift worker. The programme is one which my GP has referred me to, so it starts on June 6th, so can't comment on it being good or bad.
Yep sat fat is great.. well I think so anyway.. eat mainly only meat these days (but I am noted for being a bit extreme here).
A whole load of us have put our T2 into remission by cutting out the majority of carbs from our diets (much to the amazement of most of our doctors). So removing bread, pasta, rice, root veg (including potatoes) and most fruit and sugar.
This has had amazing health benefits.
Have a nose around the forum and maybe check out www.dietdoctor.com for low carb meal ideas. Feel free to ask any questions but there's a huge amount of info available here and on the main website all for free!
Prepare to have your mind blown!
 

daisy1

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@Lachie
Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it both interesting and helpful.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 600,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Bluetit1802

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Eggs make a great start to the day, cooked any way you wish, and as many as you wish. Personally I just have one soft boiled egg and a cup of tea. Nothing else, and that lasts me till lunch time. I have also just had a decaff coffee with double cream. I initially had a full fat Greek yogurt with a few strawberries (or raspberries) but found these spiked my blood sugars too much in a morning, so I leave this bit of deliciousness until after tea.
 
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rhubarb73

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@Lachie - don't fear fat. It may save you. A food that doesn't spike your insulin, fills you up, tastes great and can help you put Type 2 into remission. You will find a lot of people on here who have adopted a low carb high fat diet, and are much healthier as a result. We never set out this way - we became diabetic and needed a plan to get healthy again. It works. The reason you doubt it is because all the perceived wisdom out there is that fat makes you fat, that fat congeals in our arteries like it does in a drainpipe. What if that was all hyperbole? What if we all ate too much sugar as a result? And here we are...