COTTAGE pie

[ariaxo]

I like eating cottage pie from Asda a lot
https://groceries.asda.com/product/british/asda-cottage-pie/910001374223

Is it healthy to eat everyday? It’s 39g of carbs and 5.5g of sugar? I want to eat keto but I mean is it so bad to eat just one higher carb meal a day

 

[ariaxo]

@Jaylee (sorry hope you don’t mind tagging you)

 

[Rokaab]

Isn't keto less than 20 carbs in one day? So that would blow it out of the water somewhat.

I'm actually having one of those for dinner tonight - got my eye test later so I'll be all blurry so wanted a microwave meal to make it easier, but then I'm not going keto,
I do tend to have a higher carb meal at dinner anyways and I'm mostly controlling things not too badly (except for the last few days but I am also sneezing a lot and a bit snotty so I'm going to blame that)

Ready meals in general aren't the best to have every day anyways if you can avoid it - but that's not just for diabetics

 

[KK123]

New Isn't keto less than 20 carbs in one day? So that would blow it out of the water somewhat

Hi Rokaab, I thought that keto simply referred to the amount of carbs your body needs to get it into a (scientific) ketosis state?, ie where it switches to burning fat for fuel? For some I think that's around 50 carbs or less and for others it may well be 20 carbs. I have tried keto for a few weeks and went into keto at around 60 carbs. (Tested with ketone strips). I ate one meal a day (my tendency anyway) so I'm guessing @ariaxo COULD possibly achieve it if that's the only meal he ate with carbs in it, not really practical I know.

 

[Rokaab]

Hi Rokaab, I thought that keto simply referred to the amount of carbs your body needs to get it into a (scientific) ketosis state?, ie where it switches to burning fat for fuel? For some I think that's around 50 carbs or less and for others it may well be 20 carbs. I have tried keto for a few weeks and went into keto at around 60 carbs. (Tested with ketone strips).

I could well be wrong

 

[ariaxo]

Hi Rokaab, I thought that keto simply referred to the amount of carbs your body needs to get it into a (scientific) ketosis state?, ie where it switches to burning fat for fuel? For some I think that's around 50 carbs or less and for others it may well be 20 carbs. I have tried keto for a few weeks and went into keto at around 60 carbs. (Tested with ketone strips). I ate one meal a day (my tendency anyway) so I'm guessing @ariaxo COULD possibly achieve it if that's the only meal he ate with carbs in it, not really practical I know.

Ohh so to know when I’m on ketosis, I need to check my ketones everyday and make sure it’s at 0?

 

[Mbaker]

I know this is the Type 1 section, but the cross over point is Keto and a inference to a point of rules. I technically break the rules of Keto almost everyday, because I have tailored to myself with a higher protein variant, and some carbs that help with blood pressure (when I measure keytones I do often see 0.5 to 0.7 but don't care).

I think your sentiment towards Keto is good enough, but maybe over time you might consider making your own from time to time. My wife makes with a butternut squash topping, and there is nothing left. The levels of beef in your example at 24% are a little disappointing.

Nothing wrong with being Keto-ish if you don't have a neurological condition.

 

[Brunneria]

I think most people get into ketosis somewhere between 20 and 50g carbs a day. Some people need to go below 20g.
That’s why 20g carbs is often quoted as the number.

really, the only way to know what works for each of us is to test for ketones (and that is a whole other can of worms!)

 

[ariaxo]

I think most people get into ketosis somewhere between 20 and 50g carbs a day. Some people need to go below 20g.
That’s why 20g carbs is often quoted as the number.

really, the only way to know what works for each of us is to test for ketones (and that is a whole other can of worms!)

How much does my ketone have to be to know I am in ketosis?

 

[ariaxo]

I know this is the Type 1 section, but the cross over point is Keto and a inference to a point of rules. I technically break the rules of Keto almost everyday, because I have tailored to myself with a higher protein variant, and some carbs that help with blood pressure (when I measure keytones I do often see 0.5 to 0.7 but don't care).

I think your sentiment towards Keto is good enough, but maybe over time you might consider making your own from time to time. My wife makes with a butternut squash topping, and there is nothing left. The levels of beef in your example at 24% are a little disappointing.

Nothing wrong with being Keto-ish if you don't have a neurological condition.

Honestly I’m not bothered to make my own when there are really tasty and ready out there.

how much do my ketones have to be if I’m in ketosis then? I never check my ketones so I should probably ask my gp to give me test strips for it

 

[Brunneria]

How much does my ketone have to be to know I am in ketosis?

if you have ketones (from eating low amounts of carbs), then you are in ketosis (so anything more than 0 ketones = ketosis).

obviously, having ketones when experiencing ketoacidosis is a completely different thing.

 

[ariaxo]

if you have ketones (from eating low amounts of carbs), then you are in ketosis (so anything more than 0 ketones = ketosis).

obviously, having ketones when experiencing ketoacidosis is a completely different thing.

Is it possible for my blood sugar to be high and have normal ketones? Like for example if I eat the cottage pie today and it goes to 10 mmol or higher, is it possible my ketones be normal? Is ketones more important than blood sugar

 

[Jo_the_boat]

I think most people get into ketosis somewhere between 20 and 50g carbs a day. Some people need to go below 20g.
That’s why 20g carbs is often quoted as the number.

really, the only way to know what works for each of us is to test for ketones (and that is a whole other can of worms!)

are worms low carb?

 

[Jaylee]

@Jaylee (sorry hope you don’t mind tagging you)

Hi,

I realy haven't done cottage pie in a while.
If you enjoy cottage pie? Then why not.

Regarding the nutritional Ketosis. If your blood sugars are in normal range this could suggest you are burning fat?

If your sugars are high. Or have been high for a prolonged time.. With ketones present, then that isn't good news. (& not the type of ketones you're looking for.)
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/diabetic-ketoacidosis/

 

[ariaxo]

Hi,

I realy haven't done cottage pie in a while.
If you enjoy cottage pie? Then why not.

Regarding the nutritional Ketosis. If your blood sugars are in normal range this could suggest you are burning fat?

If your sugars are high. Or have been high for a prolonged time.. With ketones present, then that isn't good news. (& not the type of ketones you're looking for.)
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/diabetic-ketoacidosis/

Is blood sugar of 9 dangerous? Or is the normal range 4-8

 

[Jaylee]

Is blood sugar of 9 dangerous? Or is the normal range 4-8

In my experience. I wouldn't be concerned about dangerous DKA occurring with a reading of 9mmol.

 

[Ushthetaff]

Cottage pie hmmm hmm bring it on a large one please from CostCo Edinburgh , I don’t eat it that often so I ain’t bothered about ketones all I’m bothered with is getting it down my Gregory, and trying to sort out the how much Insulin I need to keep me within range , I am so lucky I can eat the a*** end of a rhino and not put weight on so I do sympathise with al who aren’t as lucky as myself, I use to have a lassie on my shift who said to me “ mark can I have a bottle of your constitution “ lol.
Saying that I eat lots of fruit and veg and noooooo takeaways even though I love them ( too much salt for me )