Testing

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Hi
Recently diagnosed abroad first - told diabetes wasnt serious no need to test take 1/2 tablet a day come back in years time :-(
Moved back to Uk where diabetic friends were going mental at me that I wasnt testing and even nurses on a 4 day in hospital (non - diabetic) stay questioned why are you not testing when sugar levels at 16 when waking.
Eventually met diabetic nurse at surgery expecting to be given tester and strips to be told not necessary for type 2!
More confused now than ever? When I wake up levels at 16/19 before I even eat breakfast - borrowed my dad's machine!
Help!! What are the rules for testing?
Thanks
 
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6,107
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Test before a meal and again two hours after the meal. The two hours is not written in stone but it is a sort of standard and NICE say that your reading should be less than 8.5 at that time.

It is not necessary to test before and after every meal. The object is to learn which foods you should cut down or cut out. When you get more knowledgeable you should be able to test less often since you will know which foods to avoid,
 

ewelina

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Type of diabetes
Type 1
Treatment type
Pump
Testing is not just for testing but for learning from your readings. When you know what your levels are you know if your diet needs changes and what to avoid.
Im not surprised you were told not to test. My GP told me to test once a week! (Im type1). Its all down to cuts in NHS I think and a bit nasty in my opinion advising wrong things to diabetics. Only by testing you can get control over your diabetes
 

mickthered

Active Member
Messages
35
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Other
I was asked by the doc and the nurse to test at various times of the day just for the reason that when I finally get an appointment at the hospital I can show them my readings over a period of time and give them a better idea of what is going on
 

Lenny3

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1,007
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
not much
In my opinion testing is the best thing I ever did, then low carbing the second best thing! :lol:

Most t2's are not prescribed testing strips but it is worth asking for them. If you show you want to control your condition the DSN may give you a meter and some strips. Im seriously rationed and not sure I'll get anymore as I now have good numbers. If you can't get them to give you one, then many on here buy the SD Codefree from amazon or ebay as the strips are pretty cheap. Some say it reads too high but to get an idea of what foods affect you most then its better than nothing. Ive got one that I use when my prescribed strips run out.

Good luck.
 

daisy1

Legend
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
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Cruelty towards animals.
Hi Karen and welcome to the forum :)

This information which we give to new members should contain some information which is useful to you. I am glad that you have had some answers already. Carry on asking questions and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Daibell

Master
Messages
12,653
Type of diabetes
LADA
Treatment type
Insulin
Hi. First your morning readings are far too high and your GP needs to review your meds and do an HBa1C if one hasn't been done recently. I assume you are already low-carbing to try to get the sugars under control thru diet. Meters are a post code lottery. My GP told me as a T2 that I didn't need to test. When she added Januvia 2 years ago she said, as I went out the door, that if my readings went too low then I needed to reduce the Gliclazide; a bit difficult to know when you don't have a meter :shock: When I saw the DN last week to move to insulin she asked me for my readings when I arrived; difficult if you don't have a meter but fortunately I bought my own many years ago so had some readings with me. She was surprised when she saw no strips on my prescription list and said she could add them and did. So, even within a surgery you can get differing views. NICE now recommends testing more generally and it's vital if you are on Gliclazide or insulin.
 

blackcat79

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I just got a new meter well 2 actually from my DN cos of new meds plus my readings from my SD code freemeter didnt match hc1 test n they said different meter mainly cheapo ones read different things in blood. Ive found this to b true as new Acu-chek mobile is about 1.8 less then SD tests donr on same blood sample. Also got told not to go low carb either as not gd for body n brain! So now on 3 meds 130g csrb n 1600 cals a day so we will see! Also having tests to see which type i am tho they mostly think t2. Anyway get strips n lancets plus sharps bin on prescription so thats a bouns. Its all due to new meds n me driving etc. Amazing what they will do when u push for things with dam NHS!!!
Good luck
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Daibell

Master
Messages
12,653
Type of diabetes
LADA
Treatment type
Insulin
Hi Blackcat. I guess you know the DN telling you you need carbs for the brain is total nonsense and not based on any good science. I thought the NHS was supposed to offer evidence-based medicine? The body can convert fat to glucose for use by the brain any time it wants to. I must admit 130gm/day is not high so should keep your sugars at a reasonable level.
 

blackcat79

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Yes i no i wasnt impressed at all with gp or dieticain at clinic tho DN was lovely. Ive bn having 70gs or less carbs a day BS not gr8 mainly @ 11.5 but goes up in 20s but this new pill is meant to work wonders ha erm not dure about that as its same family as glicazide n that did sweet FA! Hc1 @8% from 7.2% in Oct clearly not working but we will see
Thanks
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